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Terror connection to AA 587-- hardly a new thought

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Submitted by J. Keen Holland (United States), Aug 31, 2004 at 05:40

Here is a contemporaneous analysis which points to sabotage, though probably not a bomb.
http://www.geocities.com/mknemesis/airbus.html
Compare some of the facts above to the "official" speculations reported in the Detroit News the day after the crash of 597. How, for example, would engine separation account for the vertical stabilizer separating two miles behind where both engines were found with the fuselage?
http://www.detnews.com/2001/nation/0111/13/

Here's a roughly contemporaneous comment from a responsible source (National Business Review, New Zealand) which seems to assume that Flight 587 crash would be found to be terrorism and points out the economic impact that would have on the US. In other words, it points to a part of the motive the government would have to deny terrorist involvement in the crash.
http://www.nbr.co.nz/home/column_article.asp?id=851&cid=14&cname=Editor%27s+insight
For more on the economic impact on AMR (American Airlines) and the airline indistry, see this report from CBS news the day after the crash.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/11/13/national/main317846.shtml
For a serious critique of the rush to judgment to downplay the terror angle prior to a formal investigation, see this NewsMax.com article from November 15, 2001.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/11/14/200838.shtml

On the other hand, this listing of claimed Al Qaida attacks published in May of this year casts some doubt on the claim of resonsibility for Flight 587 by also claiming credit for the northeast power blackoput.http://www.strategic-road.com/confid/archiv/special310504_3.htm

Dave K. makes an interesting and important point about the effect on the airline industry of blaming the AA 587 crash on an Airbus design defect. I would like to hear more from him on the mechanism by which he (or his FAA source) explain the separation of the entire vertical stablizer from the fuselage. Delamination, as per the Hawaiian incident, doesn"t seem to make sense to me based on the photos I have seen of the vertical stablizer after it was raised from the bay. (To view the photos, follow the first link in my comment.


I think the shoe bomb business is mostly bunkum, but some other sort of sabotage makes a lot of sense to me., unless the purpose of the explosion was to make sure the stresses of flight would cause the separation of the stablizer sooner rather than later. The jury is still out on Flight 587, in my book, although I am convinced that Flight 800 was shot down.

Now, does anyone want to go looking for John Doe #3 from OKC?

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Title Commenter Date Thread
news immediately after crash [85 words]geoffOct 31, 2014 15:53219083
FIRE ON BOARD BEHIND WING [57 words]swillsMar 9, 2014 16:18213673
flt 587 [187 words]richard knoxMar 1, 2014 22:39213523
Aircraft Structual Strength [111 words]PilotRob@msn.comJan 9, 2008 06:47117781
aa587 Conspiracy [117 words]Ken OathNov 15, 2007 06:32113750
1I beg to differ... [39 words]Bee ThomasDec 28, 2009 16:26113750
My DaD Died in Flight 587 when i was only 6 [135 words]Greysi SotoMay 23, 2007 10:4394071
1Wake Turbulence and Pilot Error Definitely to Blame [256 words]F ArangoMar 1, 2007 09:0079513
"Wake" up! [262 words]J.Jun 22, 2007 00:5279513
2Go back to sleep! [161 words]K. RowlingsSep 7, 2007 02:2879513
3MY MOM AND BROTHER DIED ON FLIGHT 587 [209 words]CATHY RAMIREZFeb 28, 2007 11:3479347
i feel ur pain [112 words]DeeOct 16, 2008 14:5879347
Thrust reverser activation. [71 words]Brian MorrisFeb 19, 2007 16:5677935
Not only 587, but 800, 990 and 111 were sabotaged as well [100 words]hbJun 6, 2007 13:2277935
1ok, its 2006, anyone know what really happened? [56 words]P. JeiselAug 30, 2006 01:2454351
prior knowledge? [256 words]Mike A ScipioneSep 21, 2006 15:3354351
Pilot Error [98 words]Arianna LFeb 13, 2007 18:0754351
NO PILOT ERROR OR WAKE TURBULENCE HERE. [201 words]JOHN BROGANNov 16, 2005 14:5628492
2A300 is a piece of junk [127 words]anonymousSep 8, 2006 15:5828492
Airbus is a good mechanical plane!!! [46 words]MikeNov 11, 2006 18:3528492
3A lesson in Fluid Mechanics [401 words]anonymousFeb 10, 2007 18:4328492
CONSPIRACY [42 words]COREYJan 31, 2009 17:5428492
Shame on AirBus Management [32 words]CyrusJun 9, 2009 23:3528492
Was Abderraouf Jdey the Anthrax Mailer? [23 words]Kenneth J. DillonJul 22, 2005 08:1823694
1Nothing new in AA 587 report [38 words]DaveOct 27, 2004 15:2417997
Pilot error now blamed for crash [1 words]Julia GlinerOct 26, 2004 12:4217941
Ten Second Scenario [3173 words]Faucon XDec 15, 2008 09:0917941
Where is the information now? [60 words]Johnny RichardsOct 4, 2004 16:1417516
They Were Convinced it was Terrorism [77 words]Leonard W.Sep 18, 2004 17:1517026
Technically [43 words]kippySep 15, 2004 12:2816989
I have had similar suspicions since Reid was caught. [124 words]Aaron KulkisSep 13, 2004 19:2116932
Passenger List Shows No Canadian Passports [29 words]Paul DubucSep 9, 2004 02:5316854
Cover up to save the airline industry [92 words]CraigSep 8, 2004 04:3316783
Composites the new frontier of Aviation Technology [514 words]StephenAug 27, 2006 13:2316783
Truth is the first casualty [333 words]N. MillerSep 7, 2004 16:0216733
AA 587 and inertia! [107 words]William SherriffSep 7, 2004 14:3716725
1American Airlines Flt 87 Crash [149 words]G. LoveringSep 5, 2004 12:5316692
1AA 587 accident a simple explanation, No terrorists involved! No bomb needed just Mother Nature! [168 words]William SherriffSep 4, 2004 17:0016685
1Wake turbulence [405 words]SteveBSep 3, 2004 23:5616676
1Witnesses [145 words]Kelly MeekSep 3, 2004 12:5816674
AA 587 - Crash theories [293 words]Thom OlsenSep 3, 2004 09:3016671
1Private Investigation [235 words]StephenSep 3, 2004 09:1816670
2WE KNOW WHAT WE SAW [52 words]Rockaway, NY WitnessSep 2, 2004 15:4316664
U.S.Read Analysis confirms fire/explosion as source [138 words]Victor TrombettasSep 2, 2004 11:5616658
What about TWA 800? [124 words]Karl DussikSep 1, 2004 01:2516642
Finally coming to light [187 words]P MonesAug 31, 2004 18:3816633
Purpose is Economic Devastation [215 words]BarbaraAug 31, 2004 18:1316631
1John Gambling Show [99 words]John FlynnAug 31, 2004 17:3516630
Common sense sadly missing [111 words]Big BobAug 31, 2004 15:4916628
Agreeing with PSJ, BR, DP, and JV; RMcM and FK: see NTSB link below [201 words]Michael PoppersAug 31, 2004 15:0016627
Why didn't Richard Reid go in the bathroom? [163 words]R.J. SchulzeAug 31, 2004 13:4916624
1I live 10 blocks from the crash site [237 words]Chris JonnyAug 31, 2004 13:3416623
Never Believed Flight 800 Was An Accident. [290 words]PsutAug 31, 2004 10:2916619
Shoe bomber and AA587 [140 words]Stan RevichAug 31, 2004 07:5416617
AA 587 Why? [42 words]Bob the pilotFeb 26, 2007 14:1516617
FLT 587 [37 words]Chuck IngersonAug 31, 2004 07:1816615
The wrong victims... [106 words]MontyAug 31, 2004 06:5716614
Terror connection to AA 587-- hardly a new thought [383 words]J. Keen HollandAug 31, 2004 05:4016613
THANK YOU EVER SOO BLOODY MUCH [67 words]Natasha VeruschkaAug 31, 2004 03:0816610
Will all the sheep please stand up and be counted? [220 words]Kevin MacDuffAug 30, 2004 21:1416607
"Did a shoe-bomb take down AA Flight 857?" [116 words]Pete St.JeanAug 30, 2004 21:0716606
One possiblility on why the flight went down [59 words]Walter D'UllAug 30, 2004 20:3816605
Follow up on Passenger manifest [21 words]Bernard RossAug 30, 2004 20:2916604
Suggested Comment #5 [78 words]Rich McMahonAug 30, 2004 17:3716603
I thought so [49 words]Preston R PhillipsAug 30, 2004 17:2316602
See passenger manifest [45 words]Larry GoldsteinAug 30, 2004 17:0016601
Very Interesting [272 words]AvrahamAug 30, 2004 15:2716600
What is really going on? [147 words]Sam MoharebAug 30, 2004 15:1116599
I don't think so, but ... [67 words]dpierceAug 30, 2004 14:5516597
It's plausible [222 words]John W McGinleyAug 30, 2004 13:5316594
What about TWA 800? [82 words]Lisa MichelsonAug 30, 2004 13:1816593
Could this have been a test? [215 words]Marlene GoodmanAug 30, 2004 12:5816591
2OUEENS PLANE CRASH [224 words]Fred KellerAug 30, 2004 12:0116590
Thanks for speaking up. [46 words]Michelle LongfellowAug 30, 2004 11:0216585
Timing of Crash [42 words]J VincentAug 30, 2004 10:3816584
Possible coverup? [100 words]Paul RinderleAug 30, 2004 09:1416581
1AA 587 [174 words]Dave KAug 30, 2004 08:1416579
1NO BOMB - NON-CONTEMPORY RUDDER CONTROL SYSTEM [74 words]JIM HELMSNov 8, 2006 12:4416579
The explosion sound... [20 words]Christian valentinMar 2, 2007 00:0416579

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