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QURAN & TORTURE - QURANIC TORTURE - ISLAMIC TORTURE --- Ideology - Saddam Hussein - Bin Laden - Islamic republic of Iran - Al Qaeda - Taliban - Saudi Arabia - "Palestinians" - Hezbollah - Islamic barabarians on Ilan Halimi --- IDEOLOGY Torture in the Quran and early Islam By James Arlandson January 08, 2006 Three main purposes of torture are to punish criminals, to extract information, and to exact revenge. It is at least one of these three purposes that Muhammad, the founder of Islam, had in mind when he tortured two criminals: a treasurer who would not disclose where Jewish wealth lay hidden, and an enemyan old woman taken as a prisoner in a Muslim raid. Violence and brutality are embedded in the origins of Islam, including the Quran. Islamic websites that preach justice and human rights too often do not substantially (or do not at all) confront this legacy.

For example, these three articles, among many others, preach 'peace and love' and 'human rights': But a presentation of Islam as peaceful is not full disclosure. In apparent reply to the unpleasant facts about original Islam, one of the oddest interpretive gymnastics performed by Muslim polemicists and missionaries asserts that Jesus also endorsed torture and summary executions. So who are Christians and the West (though the two are not identical) to complain about Islam? But ... The Quran commands crucifixion and mutilation The Quran in Sura 5:33 says: 5:33 Those who wage war against God and His Messenger and strive to spread corruption in the land should be punished by death, crucifixion, the amputation of an alternate hand and foot or banishment from the land: a disgrace for them in this world, and then a terrible punishment in the Hereafter . . . . (MAS Abdel Haleem, The Qur'an, Oxford UP, 2004) It is important to realize that this verse appears in a legal context; Muhammad is laying down the law. The verse is not a parable or an illustration. It is intended to be carried out in real life, and it was then and it is today, as this article demonstrates. In this verse, Allah says that the criminal who strives to spread corruption in the land can be (1) executed, (2) crucified, (3) mutilated, or (4) expelled. The problems lie in the second and third punishments. In crucifixion a criminal dies a needlessly painful death, and in mutilation (cutting off an alternate hand and foot), the criminal has no chance to redeem himself for the vague crime of corruption. These two punishments are torturous, so they are unjust. It is one thing to execute a firstdegree murderer, for example, but to torture him by crucifixion is unacceptable. At first glance, the clause 'those who wage war' denotes an offense much larger than a crime like murder. However, as we shall see, the historical context of this verse comes nowhere near a war, so the clause is overblown. The key word, then, is 'corruption.' How should it be defined?

An article published by the journal alTawhid (Oneness or Unity) in Qum, Iran, the seat of learning for Shi'ites, uses Sura 5:33 and defines the crimes broadly (scroll down to Point Three), as follows: prostitution and the disintegration of family relationships; narcotics and the disintegration of individual's rational personality; colonialism and the undermining of peoples' dignity and plundering of their resources; racism and the disintegration of human brotherhood; violation of all recognized rights and the breaking of covenants; bombardment of populated areas, use of chemical weapons; attacks on civil aviation, national railways, commercial and tourist vessels, and similar methods which are universally condemned in war. This broad description of crimes opens the door to all manner of justifications for applying the punishments in Sura 5:33. Oddly, the Iranian scholar places his definition and the punishments in the verse in a discussion of human rights. But should a human have his alternate hand and foot cut off for prostitution, pimping, or racism? Should he be crucified for disintegration of the family? For colonialism? (Islam itself has been a terrible perpetrator of colonialism.) Rather than questioning this verse, the author of the article and many in the Islamic world seem to accept it as coming from God and so matteroffactly interpret it for society today. For more translations of this verse, the readers may go to these three sites: this one has multiple translations; this one has three; and this conservative translation is subsidized by the Saudi royal family. See this article on another related Islamic atrocity: the Quran's command in Sura 5:38 to chop off the hands of male or female thieves. The next three historical examples take place in AD 628, when Muhammad was strong enough militarily to inflict torture on people without fear of substantial retaliation. He grew in strength since his victory at the Battle of Badr in AD 624, and it was then that he started down the path of misusing his power. Splitting an old woman in two Raiding was part and parcel of seventhcentury Arab culture, and Muhammad incorporated this dubious custom and elevated it to jihad. Sometimes the raids took ugly, nasty turns. In early AD 628, during a raid, Zayd, Muhammad's freedman and adopted son, was wounded and some of his men were killed by a tribe. Zayd vowed to abstain from sex until he took revenge. After Zayd recovered from his wounds, Muhammad sent him and a raiding band back to the tribe. An old woman named Umm Qirfa was taken prisoner. Would a Muslim leader spare her from death, not to mention from torturing her? No. Her death was cruel, says an Islamic source, matteroffactly. The executioner appointed by Zayd 'tied each of her legs with a rope and tied the ropes to camels, and they split her in two.' (Tabari) It is not hard to imagine her screams. From the Islamic sources it is unclear why she, an old woman, had to die in the first place. But assuming only for the sake of argument that the initial raid was justifieda big assumption based on the belief that the old woman's tribe was collaborating with the Jews of Khaybarassuming this is true, did an old woman have to die in such a gruesome wayby torture? It may be argued that Muhammad himself did not order this torture, but that misses the point. The whole expedition was conducted under his orders. Thus, he was ultimately responsible for the behavior of his men. If this atrocity went against his instructions, if he did not agree with such cruel methods (even though he himself committed cruelties), then why did he not punishlike for likeZayd and his executioner? He did not even reprimand them. But Zayd was his adopted son, so apparently family loyalty won out over justice. The following hadith, though not mentioning the torture, recounts the aftermath of the raid. One of the raiders kept the daughter of Umm Qirfa for himself, and brought her back to Medina, where Muhammad lived. Once Muhammad saw the girl, he shouted to the Muslim raider that he wanted her. What did he do with her? Sell her back to her family? Did he give her family the option to ransom her? I [Salama, a Muslim raider] drove [captives] along until I brought them to Abu Bakr [Companion of Muhammad] who bestowed that girl on me as a prize. So we arrived in Medina. I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of Allah . . . met me in the street and said: Give me that girl, O Salamah. I said: Messenger of Allah, she has fascinated me. I had not yet disrobed her. When on the next day, the Messenger of Allah . . . again met me in the street, he said: O Salama, give me that girl, may God bless your father. I said: she is for you, Messenger of Allah . . . By Allah, I have not yet disrobed her. The Messenger of Allah . . . sent her to the people of Mecca, and surrendered her as ransom for a number of Muslims who had been kept as prisoners in Mecca. (Muslim no. 4345) Early Islamthe one that Muhammad foundedtrafficked in slavery and allowed sex with women prisoners of war, in their most helpless condition. This hadith gives a sad snapshot of slavery and abuse in early Islam. It is disappointing that Muhammad did not stop this trade with firm commands: No more slavery and no more sex with prisoners of raids! This prohibition is doubly needed when a religion traffics in this trade, as original Islam did. But why would such a command come down from on high, since the trade generated a lot of money and satiated male sexual lust for women? Muslim activists and missionaries make much of Islamic justice. But how is cruelly killing an old woman anywhere close to appearing like justice? Sources: Ibn Ishaq, The Life of Muhammad, trans. Guillaume, (Oxford UP, 1955), pp. 664665; Tabari, The History of alTabari: the Victory of Islam, trans. Michael Fishbein, vol. 8, SUNYP, 1997, pp. 9597. Ibn Ishaq (d. 767) is an earlier biographer of Muhammad who is considered an important source by modern scholars except the miraculous elements and some chronology. Tabari (d. 923) is an early historian who is also considered reliable. Mutilating Arab tribesmen The following event supposedly provides the historical context of Sura 5:33. Shortly after Umm Qirfa's horrible death (perhaps only a few weeks or within the same month), some Arab tribesmen visited the Prophet and at some time converted to Islam. But they fell sick in the uncongenial climate of Medina. So Muhammad told them to follow a shepherd outside of the city, recommending to them an old folk belief: drinking the milk and urine of a camel, rather than his healing them through the power of Allah. Subsequently, they are reported to have felt better. However, for some reason, they killed the shepherd, turned apostate, and drove off the camels for themselves. This news reached Muhammad, and he ordered them to be hunted down and brought before him. He decreed that their hands and feet should be cut off. Then he added these excesses on top of the others: Then he ordered for [sic] nails which were heated and [the tribesmen] were branded with those nails, their eyes, and they were left in the Harra (i.e. rocky land in AlMadina). And when they asked for water, no water was given them till they died . . . . (Bukhari, Book of Jihad, no. 3018; cf. online source ) Though this passage is awkwardly translated, it is one of many that should shock everyone of a sound mind. Muhammad actually pierced their eyes with nails (one version says with needles). Then their bodies were thrown on stony ground, dying of dehydration. One version says they died from the battering they suffered from being thrown on rocky ground; another says they died from loss of blood, for Muhammad did not cauterize their amputated limbs. Regardless of the specific cause of their unnatural death, torturing them is excess multiplied by excess, and this is never just. Sources: Bukhari, Book of Punishments (Hudud), vol. 8, no. 680205 (online source and passages below this linked one); Muslim nos. 41304137; Sunan Abu Dawud nos. 43514359 (online source; Ibn Ishaq, pp. 67778. For more information on this gruesome torture inflicted by the Allahinspired prophet, please see this article. Burning the treasurer of the city of Khaybar Muhammad conquered Khaybar in AD 628 (only a few months after the gruesome deaths of Umm Qirfa and the Arab tribesmen), but in AD 625, he had besieged and exiled the Jewish tribe of Nadir in Medina. They immigrated to Khaybar to the north. Now Muhammad wanted their treasure, not to mention the rest of the entire city. Ibn Ishaq the biographer writes about the torture of the treasurer, to extract information: Kinana b. alRabi, who had custody of the treasure of B. alNadir, was brought to the apostle [Muhammad] who asked him about it. He denied that he knew where it was. Then Muhammad finds some of the treasure: A Jew came to the apostle and said that he had seen Kinana going around a certain ruin every morning, early. When the apostle said to Kinana, 'Do you know that if we find you have it, I shall kill you?' he said Yes. The apostle gave orders that the ruin was to be excavated and some of the treasure was found. Here is the torture that Muhammad permitted: When he [Muhammad] asked him about the rest, he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders . . . 'Torture him until you extract what he has,' so [the torturer] kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Michael Fishbein, a translator of the early historian Tabari, disagrees with a phrase in the above translation of Ibn Ishaq. The fire was not kindled on the treasurer's chest with 'flint and steel,' but with a 'firestick on his chest . . . The firestick (zand) was a stick of wood that could be twirled rapidly in an indentation in a second piece to produce fire' (note 510). Whether by flint and steel or a firestick, such torture to find material wealth is wrong and misguided. So how does the story of the treasurer and Khaybar end? Kinana was beheaded in revenge for a killing, and Khaybar was conquered. The citizens, mostly Jews, could work the lands that now belonged to Islam by conquest, but they had to turn over half of the resources to Muhammad and his special Muslim recipients. Sources: Ibn Ishaq, p. 515; Tabari, vol. 8, pp. 122123. For the tense relations between Muhammad and the Jews during the ten years that he lived in Medina, please see this article. For more information on the torture of the treasurer... Muslim defenses of these atrocities The defenses take many forms, but three are the most common. For the first defensive strategy, Muslim polemicists seek to discredit Ibn Ishaq and Tabari as being less reliable than the hadith collectors and editors Bukhari (d. 870), Muslim (d. 875), and Abu Dawud (d. 875). It should be noted that the explicit information about two victims of torture (Umm Qirfa and Kinana the treasurer) comes only from Ibn Ishaq and Tabari. In reply, however, this effort to discredit is a oneway street. These same polemicists value Ibn Ishaq and Tabari when they portray Muhammad as heroic and noble. Also, modern western scholars, using modern standards of western scholarship, take these acts of torture seriously, and these scholars almost always defend Muhammad and Islam. Plus, simple coherence supports the two acts of torture recorded only by Ibn Ishaq and Tabari (Umm Qirfa and the treasurer). That is, the hadith records the torture of the Arab tribesmen, and the hadith records other violent, stealthy actions done by Muhammad, such as assassinations. (Also go here). Many acts of violence cohere together in describing early Islam, and thus the accounts about the two torture victims are pieces that fit into the big picture puzzle. Finally, the most unpleasant events in early Islam have the strongest probability of really having occurred because it is inconceivable that a Muslim would make them up on his own or receive them from nonMuslims. These harsh anecdotes and accounts, therefore, cannot be explained away in terms of the (alleged) unreliability of the source documents. In fact, those accounts in the hadith and Ibn Ishaq and Tabari that praise the prophet to high heaven, such as his working miracles, are the most suspect, especially since the Quran says that he could not perform miracles, except for producing the Quran itself (though this 'miracle' has been easily duplicated by native speakers of Arabic). The second line of defense shows that Muslim polemicists deflect our attention away from torture in Islam, making a false comparison. For instance, Abul Hamid Siddiqi translated the hadith collection Sahih Muslim and provided some commentary. He describes the renegade Arab tribesmen (see the second historical example, above) in the worst way possible so that the Quranic punishments seem to fit the crime. He also reviews the opinions of classical legal scholars. Then he writes this about western law: Lest some of these penalties may appear barbarous to some hypersensitive Western reader, let him cast a glance on drawing and quartering: a penalty of the English criminal code maintained as late as the eighteenth century, inflicted on those found guilty of high treason against the King or government. The person committed was usually drawn on a sledge to the place of execution; there he was hung by the neck from a scaffold, being cut down and disemboweled, while still alive; his head was cut from the body and his corpse divided into four quarters . . . . (vol. 3, p. 894, note 2121) Like many Muslims, Siddiqi deflects the brutality in the origins of his own religion by criticizing later western civilization. He seems to say, 'Who are you 'hypersensitive western' readers to complain? You have your own excessive punishments.' But this is a tacit admission that Sura 5:33 is in fact cruel and brutal. However, since it came down from Allah, Siddiqi and many others are not allowed to deny its validity. In fact, they have to deny or explain away its barbarity. This is like a husband deflecting his wife's accurate observations of his cruel flaws with the retort that she is not perfect, either. With that attitude, the husband will never reform. Can or will Islam reform? How can it when the sacred book, brought down by Gabriel from Allah, endorses atrocities? Next, Siddiqi makes a false comparison and fails to make the right one. He compares the founding documents of Islam with much later, but now outdated western laws. However, this comparison is asymmetrical. It is always better to compare the founder and the source documents of a religion (Islam) with the founder and the source documents of another religion (Christianity). This comparison will developed in the next section, but suffice it to say here that never did Jesus endorse such brutality in a penal code or as an example for society in order to impose external righteousness. He sought to change people, even criminals, from the inside out, so that they can lead moral lives. He did not come to physically maim and torture people. Finally, though this is not a defense, Siddiqi informs us that classical jurists decreed that if a criminal is being killed in retaliation or for committing a grave crime, he should be supplied with water, if he asks for it. 'Callousness should not be shown even to a person who is undergoing capital punishment. The criminal must receive punishment according to the law of the Shariah, but he should not in any way be treated brutally' (vol. 3, p. 894, note 2123). This is a remarkable observation and admission, even though Siddiqi does not mention his Prophet by name, the one who committed these atrocities in the first place. In effect, Siddiqi and these classical jurists correct and improve on Muhammad's 'callousness' and 'brutality.' Siddiqi and these jurists should be applauded. Using clear reason and (apparently) not depending on bygone revelations, they have moved past the origins of Islam. They follow justice more closely than their Prophet did. Readers can see more replies to Muslim polemicists in this article (scroll down to 'Modern explanations of Sura 5:33'). For the source of the two options concerning the reliability of Islamic documents (an early Muslim author would neither fabricate on his own the questionable behavior of Muhammad nor receive this from a nonMuslim), go to this article, and scroll down to the subsection 'Satanic verses,' searching for W. M. Watt's assessment)... This is far different from Sura 5:33 and the life of Muhammad. This verse is not a parable; it is law. It legitimizes and commands crucifixion and mutilation. Also, Muhammad and his close followers actually inflicted torture in real life, so he was consistent with the Quranic law dreamed up by the god of the Arabian Peninsula. Moreover, Muhammad believed Muslim angels helped him kill his enemies at the Battle of Badr (Sura 8:12)... Conclusion Muslim missionaries boast that Islam is the best and most complete religion in the world, because it specifies duties and requirements for every aspect of life. But what happens if this control is oppressive? What if it is rooted in a harsh and outdated holy book and traditions? This is seen in the specific area of punishing criminals and enemies and extracting information and exacting revenge, all by torture. It is a sad fact that too many Islamic websites and literature seem unwilling to confront the violent origins of Islam, and they whitewash the hard truths. This is deceptive at best and dangerous at worst. What happens when or if Islam gets a foothold in a new region on the basis of peace and love, but later on, conservative and strict Muslims (not to mention nonviolent and violent fanatics) cite the numerous violent verses and passages in the Quran and in the hadith in order to defend the infliction of a harsh law, like mutilation or crucifixion in Sura 5:33? Besides the present article, this one challenges the Islamic version of human rights and justice: top ten reasons why sharia (Islamic law) is bad for all societies... http://www.americanthinker.com/2006/01/torture_in_the_quran_and_early.html The religion of Islam fulfills each and every criteria of the above-mentioned definition of terrorism. The following irrefutable facts and deductive logic will amply demonstrate this statement. Ever since Islam was founded it has left behind a legacy of violent atrocities and horrible crimes. The holy book of the Muslims, the Koran, contains specific instructions on how to loot, pillage, plunder, rape, torture and murder in order to further the interests of Islam . It can clearly be called a specific instruction manual of terrorism. The "Holy" Koran is full of very unholy and terrorist ambitions... http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/terrorist1.html ...Koran: the Sunnah is a crucial, indispensible part of what defines Islam. In the Sunnah, we do find torture ... http://www.frontpagemag.com/GoPostal/CommentsOverview.aspx?GUID=b042f8ea-32be-45b5-84e1-1e158773531a Islamic Quotes - Torture, Mohammed Koran Quran... http://prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Quotes_Torture.Islam _____________________________ BIN LADEN CNN.com - Transcript of Osama bin Laden videotape - December 13, 2001Dec 13, 2001 ... (Quoting the verse from the Quran). Shaykh: "Fight them, Allah will torture them, with your hands, he will torture them. ... http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/12/13/tape.transcript/ _____________________________ SADDAM HUSSEIN "Al-Anfal" refers to a chapter in the Koran invoking Muslim armies to recompense themselves for their efforts in war by seizing the properties of infidels. It speaks of striking terror "into the hearts of the enemy of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know." Saddam probably interpreted this verse from the Koran as sufficient to justify a vicious two-year crusade of extermination of the Kurds. The Kurds, it should be remembered, are also Muslims (but not Arabs, and hated in racist Pan-Arabist Saddam's eyes). http://www.int-review.org/terr35a.html Seeing, and Believing The torture tapes the media are ignoring. June 17, 2004, 8:46 a.m. By Nick Schulz EDITOR'S NOTE: Earlier this month, National Review Online obtained a four-minute video of Saddam-era torture at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. Many of us here who discussed the matter are ourselves unable to watch the whole video. Some could not get beyond the furious, ecstatic chanting of torturers as they raised swords, celebrating their own dementia in the depths of a man-made hell. What to do with the video was a matter of debate here. On principle this is newsworthy and weighing heavily on our deliberations was the fact that a group of United States senators held a press conference on June 2 during which they showed the horrific video and near no one covered it in fact, to this date, I am aware of no mainstream news organization other than the New York Post yesterday in an opinion column that has even mentioned that this new, Department of Defense-provided, video exists and has been shown on the Hill. We also considered this: Some Westerners, including some who did not support the war in Iraq, frankly may not understand the evil that was the Saddam Hussein regime. You watch or try to the four-minute video and you see the unbearable evil that was and that is no more because of the sacrifice of American and Coalition blood... "You don't appreciate what happened in that prison until you see it." "In the name of Allah the merciful," intones the beret-topped loyalist to Saddam's "secular" regime in the next segment. He introduces to the viewer and the assembled butcher squad to another prisoner. The loyalist-narrator reads from Koran, Sura 2:179: "And there is a saving of life for you in the Law of Equality in punishment. O men of understanding, that you may become the pious." "The Fedayeen, Saddin Ezzedin al-Arousi," he goes on, "was charged with a special mission in which he betrayed his duty in the mission. The head of the Fedayeen has ordered the following: He is expelled from Fedayeen work and his arms are to be broken in front of his unit. Tarik Juman will personally undertake the breaking of his arms. Thank you." The camera jumps to al-Arousi sitting with one arm tied behind him as his right arm is extended out to his side. His right elbow rests on a cinderblock and his right fist is supported by another cinderblock. Nothing supports his forearm in between. While a Fedayeen holds the prisoner's elbow in place, Tarik Juman crashes a three-inch-thick pipe down on his old compatriot's forearm, bending the forearm in a 'V' shape and shattering the bones within. This procedure is repeated for his left arm as well. http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/schulz200406170846.asp __________________________________ IRAN THE IRANIAN: Islam and reform, Hashem Aghajari The religious leaders taught that if you understand the Koran on your own, .... Under ordinary interrogation he isn't confessing, so we must torture him so ... http://www.sullivan-county.com/id4/ip.htm Iranian court orders man to be blinded - Middle East, World - The ...Jun 28, 2005 ... An Iranian court has sentenced a man to have his eyes surgically removed for a crime he ... a category for which the Koran stipulates specific punishments, ... inhuman and degrading treatment amounting to torture". ... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iranian-court-orders-man-to-be-blinded-496808.html Dhimmi Watch: Iran authorities lash man for having bible in car ... http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/017769.php BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iran student protests... [Jul 9, 2004] ... Five years on from pro-reform protests which rocked Iran, a student who was there ... four continuous days and I was also subject to psychological torture for a month. ... you should not even read Koran after his death." ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3879535.stm Tazir: the Islamic Torture in Iran - Persian Journal Article Iran newsJan 17, 2006 ... These are the MO for the Islamic Torture called Tazir in Iran. ... persuading the prisoners to read Koran and learn it by heart ... http://www.iranian.ws/cgi-bin/iran_news/exec/view.cgi/5/12346 Main pageIn my youth and young adulthood in Iran, I lived through thousands of days when ... of the Koran about non-believers were played in the torture chambers. ... http://www.middleastwomen.org/html/GenevaConference.htm Iran: Freedom of Expression and Association in the Kurdish Regions ...Jan 9, 2009 ... The doctor recorded all the signs of torture that were evident from the .... The Maktabe Koran (Quran School, in the sense of a school of ... http://www.hrw.org/en/node/79044/section/7 __________________________________ SAUDI ARABIA The Will of Allah: Torture Non Arabs to Death... a female Indonesian worker who had worked as a housemaid in Saudi, had been tortured to death by her employer. Then when the case was presented to the Saudi ambassador in Indonesia, the ambassador said that it was the will of Allah http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1338&Itemid=64 Saudi Arabia: Torture: Culture of brutality | Amnesty InternationalSaudi Arabia: Torture: Culture of brutality. Download:. HTML PDF - . Date Published: 1 June 2000 ... http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/MDE23/010/2000/en Saudi Arabia: New Video Confirms Torture in Prison | Human Rights ...Apr 26, 2007 ... The Saudi government should expand upon its promise to investigate a recent prison beating captured on video by conducting a comprehensive ... http://thinkweb.hrw.org/en/news/2007/04/26/saudi-arabia-new-video-confirms-torture-prison BBC NEWS | Programmes | Correspondent | Saudi Arabia: State of denialNov 24, 2002 ... John Sweeney travels to Saudi Arabia to investigate the truth behind allegations of torture of Britons in a Saudi jail. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/correspondent/2480379.stm Christians claim torture by Saudis Jan 31, 2002 ... FAITH UNDER FIRE Christians claim torture by Saudis ... Mengistu is scheduled to leave Saudi Arabia on Saturday with his wife, ... http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26265 [May 21, 2005]. Saudi Arabia Torture update. From the Guardian;. Lawyers win right to seize Saudi assets. http://theredhunter.com/2005/05/saudi_arabia_torture_update.php Saudi Arabia: remains a fertile ground for torture with impunity ...Saudi Arabia: remains a fertile ground for torture with impunity: Digital Library: Forced Migration Online. http://repository.forcedmigration.org/show_metadata.jsp?pid=fmo:4144 Jed Babbin on Saudi Arabia on National Review Online Sep 29, 2003 ... Saudi Arabia pretends to be a legitimate member of the community of nations. It is a signatory of the U.N. "Convention Against Torture" ... http://www.nationalreview.com/babbin/babbin200309290811.asp Expatriates Sue Saudi Arabia for Torture - Democratic Underground [Feb 25, 2004]... (Reuters) - Seven Western expatriates who say they were tortured... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x384247 SAUDI ARABIA Persecution, prison and torture for Christians ...Jun 9, 2004 ... http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=940 __________________________________ TALIBAN Taliban torture and kill French Nato soldiers in Afghanistan ...Ten French Nato soldiers have been killed and more than 20 seriously wounded in a massive firefight with the Taliban. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/08/20/taliban-torture-and-kill-french-nato-soldiers-in-afghanistan-115875-20704784/ Taliban Torture, Execute 5 Afghan Police - washingtonpost.com Nov 18, 2007 ... KANDAHAR, Afghanistan -- Taliban militants slashed the hands and legs of five abducted policemen in southern Afghanistan and hung their ... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/18/AR2007111800210.html Taliban torture tactics - eCharcha.Com http://www.echarcha.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4110 Taliban new dictum: Marry daughters to militants - Islamabad On the heels of their crusade against girls going to schools, .... want to defend taliban like barbarians,who torture girls/women ... http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Taliban-new-dictum-Marry-daughters-to-militants/405824/2 Afghan girls maimed by acid vow to go to school - CNN.com It's not the first time girls in Afghanistan have been targeted for attending school. The Taliban have been responsible for dozens of attacks on girls' ... http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/01/22/acid.attacks/ Afghan girls fearful after acid attack - Afghanistan- msnbc.com Nov 14, 2008 ... Acid attack keeps Afghan girls away from school ... Girls were banned from schools under the rule of the Taliban, the hard-line ... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27713077/ 10 Taliban arrested in school girl acid attack. (Agencies) Updated: 2008-11-25 16:16. KANDAHAR, Afghanistan... http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2008-11/25/content_7238611.htm __________________________________ HEZBOLLAH Debbie Schlussel Jul 27, 2006 ... Another Picture That Speaks 1000 Words: Hezbollah Teaches Kids Nazi Salute .... torture, maim, and kill you just for being Jewish or Christian. The Quran is quite specific as to what Muslims are supposed to do to us. ... http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2006/07/another_picture.html Bradley Burston/ The pleasure that Hezbollah takes in torture ...Bradley Burston/ The pleasure that Hezbollah takes in torture... http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1002317.html "South Lebanese Face Abductions, Torture and 90-Second Show Trials ...A Hezbollah guerrilla guards former SLA militiamen in the village of ... torture, at various camps under the control of Syrian and ... http://www.meib.org/articles/0007_l3.htm ...To which work is Jihad Darrell referring? Is it 1986 Hezbollah's torturing to death of Ibrahim Benesti, aged 54, of Beirut, and his elderly relatives, Yehudah and Yosef, whose only crime was being Jewish? Benesti, whose family – like many Lebanese Jews – had been in Lebanon since 2,000 B.C. (before the birth of Mohammed), was a charitable and kindly candy store owner who gave free candy to children of all religions. Or maybe Jihad Darrell was referring to the "humanitarian" 1985 Hezbollah torture-murder of Isaac Tarab, 63, and Chaim Halala Cohen, 39, also guilty of being Jewish. http://www.politicalusa.com/columnists/schlussel/schlussel_003.htm 'Dearbornistan' Shi'ia capitol of America - Thousands of American ...Jul 26, 2006 ... And not before the 1984 Hezbollah torture-murder of CIA station chief in Lebanon William Buckley. And not before the 1985 Hezbollah ... http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/2165 Washington Times - Hezbollah and Main Street And not before the 1984 Hezbollah torture-murder of CIA station chief William Buckley in Lebanon. And not before the 1985 Hezbollah hijacking of TWA Flight ... http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/jul/20/20060720-081459-2509r/ Jimmy Carter... Are we the fiends who over two decades of Islamic terrorism have kidnapped, tortured and killed numerous peacekeepers? http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/08/08/we-are-all-hezbollah-now/ ____________________________ AL QAEDA [in Iraq] Torture chamber found in Iraq Saturday, 22 December , 2007, 00:12 Last Updated: Saturday, 22 December , 2007, 00:15 Baghdad: Blood-splotches on walls, chains hanging from a ceiling and swords on the killing floor the artifacts left a disturbing tale of brutalities inside a suspected al-Qaeda torture chamber in Iraq. But there was yet another chilling fact outside the dirt-floor dungeon. Villagers say they knew about the torment but were too intimidated by extremists to tell authorities until now. Stories such as these claims of insurgent abuses and the silence of frightened Iraqis have emerged with increasing frequency and clarity recently. The reports and tips now pouring in build a harrowing portrait of rule under al-Qaeda and its backers: mass graves, ruthless punishments, self-styled Islamic courts ordering summary executions. Such a lead brought soldiers earlier this month to the hidden room in Muqdadiyah, about 60 miles north of Baghdad, the US military said Thursday. Graffiti on the building proclaimed Long Live the Islamic State a reference to the Islamic governance, or caliphate, sought in Iraq by Sunni extremist groups that include al-Qaeda. Scrawled in white paint above a bed in the torture area was a Quranic phrase in Arabic normally used to welcome a guest. But the context suggested only sadistic mockery: "Come in, you are safe." The floor was littered with food wrappers, plastic soda bottles and electric cables that snaked to a metal bed frame, presumably where detainees were shocked, according to the US account of the discovery during a December 8-11 mission. The rooms "had chains, a bed an iron bed that was still connected to a battery knives and swords that were still covered in blood," said US Army Maj Gen Mark P Hertling, the top US commander in northern Iraq. Nearby were nine mass graves containing the remains of 26 people, he said. Villagers knew about the torture site, but did not tell authorities as they were afraid of reprisals from the militants, a local policeman told The Associated Press. He spoke on condition of anonymity as he was still afraid of being targeted by extremists. http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14579402 Torture chamber found in mosque http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/08/19/iraq.mosque/index.html?eref=rss_topstories Al-Qaeda Torture Manual Found & Released by DoD (***Warning Graphic***) [24 MAY 07] Torture, Al-Qaeda Style Drawings, tools seized from Iraq safe house in U.S. military raid MAY 24--In a recent raid on an al-Qaeda safe house in Iraq, U.S. military officials recovered an assortment of crude drawings depicting torture methods like "blowtorch to the skin" and "eye removal." Along with the images, which you'll find on the following pages, soldiers seized various torture implements, like meat cleavers, whips, and wire cutters. Photos of those items can be seen here. The images, which were just declassified by the Department of Defense, also include a picture of a ramshackle Baghdad safe house described as an "al-Qaeda torture chamber." It was there, during an April 24 raid, that soldiers found a man suspended from the ceiling by a chain. According to the military, he had been abducted from his job and was being beaten daily by his captors. In a raid earlier this week, Coalition Forces freed five Iraqis who were found in a padlocked room in Karmah. The group, which included a boy, were reportedly beaten with chains, cables, and hoses. Photos showing injuries sustained by those captives can be found here. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0524072torture1.html Where was Durbin's comparison to the Nazis when we found the torture chambers in Iraq? ... or moral ambiguity, or more recently, moral relativity. ... http://www.theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/33Rlg/Islm/Tortr.htm ______________________________ The Arab immigrants who call themselves as "PALESTINIANS" Israel News - Islamic Jihad torturing double agents | Infolive.tvHuman Rights Watch has urged the Hamas government in the Gaza Strip to investigate the abduction and alleged torture of three Palestinians by Islamic Jihad, ... http://www.infolive.tv/en/infolive.tv-23283-israelnews-islamic-jihad-torturing-double-agents Terror and torture in Palestine by Palestinian security servicesCruelty and torture of Palestinian terrorists in Israel. Edward Said says Israel alone sanctions torture, though many states, certainly all Islamic states, ... http://samsonblinded.org/said_end_peace_process/89cruelty_and_torture.htm PALESTINIAN MUSLIM CLERIC URGES ALL ARABS TO KILL JEWS, CHRISTIANS ...Now, Allah says he wants the Muslims to torture the Jews in their .... shared by the Muslim until the explosion of Palestinian outrage on Rosh Hashanah over ... http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1418.cfm Islams Torture of Lebanon By Jamie Glazov ... That situation was aggravated by the influx of the Palestinians coming from Jordan after King Hussein kicked ... http://www.jnnnews.com/media/jamie/ ABC News: Report: Torture Widespread in Palestinian Jails, Jul 28, 2008 ... Two human rights groups on Monday decried widespread torture of political opponents by bitter Palestinian rivals Hamas and Fatah, ... http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=5461481 Hamas, Fatah guilty of torturing opponents: reports - World - smh ...Video: Palestinian militants appear in video footage making rockets and on ... controls the West Bank territory, while Hamas, a more radical Islamic ... http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/hamas-fatah-guilty-of-torturing-opponents-reports/2008/07/29/1217097241154.html "Palestinian" aka Fakestinian Islamic Terror". Wednesday, February 25, 2009 .... Hamas accused of torture death of Gaza critic ... http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/palestinian_arab_peacemakers_spit A victim of Palestinian torture speaks out. Post a comment ... it perceives from the kind of militant Islam represented by Hamas and its Iranian backers. ... http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2008/12/04/a-victim-of-palestinian-torture-speaks-out/ Are Palestinian Leaders Preaching Nazi-like Hatred of Jews?The Koran is plain... the worst enemies of the Islamic Nation are the Jews ... and mental torture of Palestinians; and sexually exploiting Arab children. ... http://hnn.us/articles/743.html Women Against Shariah: Palestinians threaten Europe with Muslim ...Shariah: an all-encompassing and in-transmutable system of Islamic jurisprudence, found in the Koran and the Sunnah, that covers all aspect of life, ... http://womenagainstshariah.blogspot.com/2009/01/palestinians-threaten-europe-with.html PALESTINE Palestinian human rights center accuses Hamas of ...Aug 8, 2008 ... Gaza (AsiaNews/Agencies) - Mistreatment and torture are alleged to have been ... 06/15/2007 PALESTINE Hamas, the era of Islamic law in full ... http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=12961 Dhimmi Watch: "The horrific torture of hundreds of people by ...Feb 3, 2009 ... "The horrific torture of hundreds of people by Palestinian security ... up for alleged involvement with the militant Islamic group Hamas, ... http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/024689.php _____________________________ ISLAMIC FASCISTS BARBARIANS on ILAN HALIMI The Murder of Ilan Halimi - WSJ.com ... Ilan's uncle Rafi Halimi told reporters that the gang phoned the family on several occasions and made them listen to the recitation of verses from the Quran, while Ilans tortured screams could be heard in the background. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB114064452021880485.html The victim, whose full name is Ilan Halimi, was Jewish......verses from the Quran, while Ilans tortured screams could be heard in the background. ... he slow torture of Ilan Halimi, a Jewish youth, kidnapped and tortured to ... http://israpundit.com/2006/?p=211 Muslim killers relatives and neighbors 'dropped in' to torture ... Feb 25, 2006 ... MIM: Had the murdered man been a Muslim, or a Koran been found discarded on .... orchards and national forests in the areas by Palestinians. ... http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/1684 Mar 7, 2006 ... When they were not asking for money, they were reciting suras from the Quran. In some of the conversations it was possible to hear Halimi screaming ... The screams must have been loud because the torture was especially ...

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double standards [73 words]alphaJan 15, 2013 02:07202609
6Arab world basically homosexual [264 words]JasonNov 15, 2012 17:20200654
1Jason needs to read some good news paper [58 words]PrashantNov 16, 2012 01:09200654
Take a good look at who is behind the extremism [232 words]JasonNov 17, 2012 09:33200654
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1Women today [102 words]salkeyMay 4, 2012 07:14195422
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Interesting question, something that always gets Muslims uncomfortable [98 words]Abdullah K.Feb 1, 2011 23:41177666
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sharia compliant online sexshop El Asira [74 words]mythApr 17, 2010 09:08171394
1the koran and islamists culture mess up something as wonderful as sex. [158 words]Phil GreendAug 26, 2009 21:43160677
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we must Understand Islam [248 words]shabir AhmadJan 17, 2009 06:02148260
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Islam have nothing to do Arab culture [91 words]think pleaseAug 20, 2009 08:18135958
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Respect for women in Islam is the highest lie [64 words]aviAug 31, 2014 05:47135958
Sure Islam is the best [45 words]JohnOct 5, 2014 08:06135958
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My Daughter-islam [132 words]Chris HibbertJan 2, 2008 09:55116030
I happen to know for a fact that it is forbidden by Allah for any man to force his female mate to worship him [131 words]ReneeAug 5, 2006 09:5751712
1Renee (United States), Aug 5, 2006 at 09:57 [73 words]GabrielleApr 27, 2008 05:2451712
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3response [91 words]Kevin MJul 3, 2006 18:1936667
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QURAN & TORTURE - QURANIC TORTURE - ISLAMIC TORTURE [6547 words]MinaMar 2, 2009 19:1219831
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Cruelty to animals [31 words]geirgiaFeb 11, 2012 02:5519831
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look at the source [64 words]irfanJul 3, 2006 16:5615813
2For Reema: the enemy of Islam is the media? you are kidding me! [202 words]dhimmi no moreJul 4, 2006 12:3715813
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"Living a Lie" one more time [40 words]DonaldJul 4, 2006 19:0315813
To Donald [492 words]ReemaAug 7, 2006 09:0115813
2No the media is not the enemy of Islam. And I am not kidding! [820 words]ReemaAug 7, 2006 09:1115813
1For Reema: al-tihara al-sunni, "my best friend is Christian" and other sordid matters!! [1075 words]dhimmi no moreAug 7, 2006 19:5415813
2For Reema: Islam and polemics, and "one of my closest friend is a Christian" part two!! [979 words]dhimmi no moreAug 8, 2006 07:4515813
1Well... [197 words]ReemaAug 9, 2006 01:3615813
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1still fooled [133 words]DonaldAug 15, 2006 15:5615813
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For annonomus: more fantasy and her little fatwa part deux! [46 words]dhimmi no moreOct 23, 2006 19:0015813
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Question [169 words]
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to those who speak about muslim women [149 words]Elham M. HellesNov 19, 2006 02:0815382
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Where is the link? [103 words]ivan evetovicsMay 27, 2004 04:4115378
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Close But Here's The Real Deal [443 words]Joseph BentzelMay 26, 2004 18:2815372
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