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Submitted by Ibrahimyu (United Kingdom), Oct 24, 2006 at 16:29

As I have mentioned earlier, I am not here for a debate. Just a friendly discussion. You must have forgotten this. The very beginning of the first response to you was "I come to you in peace".

And then, I asked you what is the difference between God of Bible and God of Quran. I want to see proofs and not what you think!

Then you pulled out loads of verses about the prophets. And despite these difference between the events of the prophets mentioned in the two scriptures, we still agree Moses, Abraham and Jesus of Quran are the same Moses, Abraham and Jesus of Bible.

So why do you say God of Bible is not the same God of Quran, when there is no difference in the characters of God between the two scriptures? If we can agree on the same prophets desipte minor difference in events that took place; why not to accept the fact that God of the two scriptures is the same God?

The list you brought I didn't reply to it, because it has nothing to do with the topic. I did mention a few so as not to let you push a few even more irrelevant verses into the list!


I am really trying hard to follow you. Why have you given me all these verses from Bible? To prove what? To prove Jesus claimed divinity in the Bible? Is that the topic we are discussing about? I really don't know what you are doing. Are you trying to change the subject?

Trying to ignore the 99 Devine Names of the God of Alamin? (Alamin means "all that exists")


Can you please tell me which of the 99 attributes you God doesnt have? Which of the attributes the God of Bible is missing?


For you to agree we worship the same God is that difficult? Late Pope John Paul II did agree with us. So why can't you?

And do you really think I care what you believe? I just don't want you to go and debate with muslims on issues about Allah.

Because in surah baqara, it says to the Muslims. Not to argue with Christians and Jews on the matter of "your God and my God". Because we all worship the same Divine Lord.

And my job as a muslim is just to pass on the correct message to you. Not to convince you. For Allah won't hold me account whether you converted, but He will question me if I passed on the message.

And by now, I want to introduce you another concept called the meaning of muslims. And who are the muslims.

The best of all muslims, would be all the prophets. All the 124 thousand prophets sent from Allah. Out of which, 25 we know by name. Some of them, Jews and Christians also believe as prophets. Including Prophet Abraham, Prophet Moses, Prophet David, Prophet Solomon, etc. And all including Prophet Isa and Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon them).

They are all muslims!

Now, Christian is one who follows Christianity; and a Jew is one who follows Judaism. These two are all religions. And another one from another religion can't be a Christian or a Jew.

But Islam is different. A muslim is a follower of Islam. Which is a "deen". Which simply mean The Way. Just like how the Bible used to call it, until sometime recent, the capitals were removed!

Islam breaks down to "surrender", "submit", "obey", "sincere" and "peace". So a mo-islam (in Arabic, to describe the doer, you add the preffix "mo"), is one who does Islam. And mo-islam join together to form the word muslim.

Hence, a muslim simply is one who surrenders himself to God, sumbit his will to God, Obey God's Will (shall the Will of God in Heaven be done on earth), Obey God in sincerity and purity and have internal peace from these.

So if you deny that all the Jewish Prophets were also muslims. Then which of the 5 things, these prophets didn't do?

Did they not surrender, submit, obey, sincere and peace to God?


To end this blog, just a reminder. What did you think about the story about prophet mohammed (pbuh) and honey? Don't you think mohammed (pbuh) can't be the author of Quran from that story?

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