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Submitted by Ibrahimyu (United Kingdom), Oct 23, 2006 at 17:09

First of all, it is not my problem which Christian Scholar you follow. You can curse another christian from another sect to go to hell. It is not my problem. I don't care.

In Islam, there is no religious sects. Allah has mentioned in the Quran, "..do not make sects amongst yourselves, hold on to the rope of Allah..:

Any real Muslim scholar you go to, they will just say they are a Muslim. And they will not say they are a Sunni or Shia. Because it is forbidden to make sects in Islam. So we all hold on to the rope of Allah, which is the Quran. The original Quran, in Arabic. 100% same in all letters and words with the manuscript since the time of the Prophet. So we have no disagreement on our scripture.

Now, you are trying to deny the fact that Jesus spread the message of worshipping God alone without any partners. And you are trying to saying Jesus also told his followers to worship him from John 5.22-24.

I'd like to say, don't re-define Jesus!

In the Quran, it says, "All you who believe, Obey Allah and his messenger.." These words appeared so many times in the Quran. Emphasising that the messenger of Allah is the embassador of Allah on Earth. And whatever he is teaching you, is what Allah is teaching you. We in Islam say that, "All the good mentioned are from Allah, and all the mistakes are from ourselves.."

I asked you to present an example of contradiction between the God of Bible and God of Quran. And you gave me a list of points, which has nothing to do with the description of God.

Does condradiction between son of Noah or father of Abraham has anything to do with the nature of God?

And by the way, many of the points you mentioned are irrelevant. Such as the story of Abraham trying to sacrifising Ismael is not the same story of Abraham sacrifising Issac. The later story is just not there in the Quran. And if something is not mentioned, you don't say it contradicts. Condratiction is when something is not matching with something else.

If the miracle done by Isa (peace be upon him) at birth isn't mentioned in the Bible, then how could it contradict with something?

And you also mentioned earlier, Jesus told not to do violence to any men. So where did Quran disagree with that? When Quran clearly states, "..those who have killed a man, it is as if he killed the whole mankind. Those who saved a man, it is as if he saved the whole mankind.."

And majority of the verses from Quran, where it says kill, or fight; it is referring to a battle. E.g. the first few verese mentioned in Surah Taubah, Chapter 9, is referring to a battle faught between the Pagan Meccans and the Muslims in Medina.

Did Jesus tell a solider not to hurt his enemy on the battlefield? And wait for the enemies to kill him?

That's why you have famous quotes from the verses of the Old Testament, such as ".. an eye for an eye..".

Allah from the Quran teaches Muslims to achieve internal peace through Islam. And by the way, Islam is not just a noun. It is also a verb. Same as the word Aslam mentioned in the Arabic Bibles.

Islam can be broken down to words, more or less, correctly translated to English as "Surrender, Submit, Obey, Sincere and Peace". So a Muslim (one who does Islam) is should be doing all these. Surrender to Allah, and submit you will to Him. Obey what He wills for you and do it with Sincerity in order to achieve internal Peace.

And I have to thank you even more for pulling out verses from both Quran and Bible, comparing the information mentioned about Noah, Abraham, etc..

That means, you agree that Noah mentioned in Quran is the same Noah mentioned in Bible. Abraham mentioned in Quran is the same Abraham mentioned in the Bible. So I'd like to ask you. Why don't you believe that the God mentioned in the Quran is the same God mentioned in the Bible?

Where is the contradiction between the God of Quran and God of Bible?

From the Quran and Hadith, we know the attributes of Allah. Which best befines Him.

The 99 attributes (translation in English) are:

Allah, The Holy, The Sovereign Lord, The Merciful, The Beneficent, The Compeller, The Mighty, The Protector, The Guardian of Faith, The Source of Peace, The Forgiver, The Fashioner, The Evolver, The Creator, The Majestic, The All-Knowing, The Opener, The Provider, The Bestower, The Subduer, The Honourer, The Exalter, The Abaser, The Spreader, The Constrictor, The Just, The Judge, The All-Seeing, The All-Hearing, The Dishonourer, The All-Forgiving, The Great, The Forbearing, The Aware, The Subtle, The Maintainer, The Preserver, The Most High, The Appreciative, The Responsive, The Watcher, The Generous, The Sublime, The Resurrector, The Most Gracious, The Loving, The Wise, The All- Embracing, The Firm, The Most Strong, The Trustee, The Truth, The Witness, The Most High, The Restorer, The Originator, The Reckoner, The Praiseworthy, The Protecting Friend, The Finder, The Self-subsisting, The Alive, The Giver of Life, The Able, The Eternal, The One, The Guide, The Light, The Propitious, The Distresser, The Preventer, The Patient, The Unique, The Noble, The Last, The First, The Equitable, The Delayer, The Expediter, The Powerful, The Pardoner, The Avenger, The Source of All Goodness, The Creator of Death, The Most Exalted, The Governor, The Hidden, The Manifest, The Eternal Owner of Sovereignty, The Compassionate, The Acceptor of Repentance, The Enricher, The Self-Sufficient, The Gatherer, The Lord of Majesty and Bounty, The Guide to the Right Path, The Supreme Inheritor, The Ever-lasing and The Incomparable.

Just tell me, which attribute contradicts with the attribute of the God of Bible. And remeber, if something is not mentioned in the Bible; it doesn't contradict with anything.

And a last point for you to think about. Quran was not written by a human. But its author is the Divine Lord. Revealed to Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him) via Angel Gabriel.

An example to show that Mohammed (peace be upon him) isn't the author of the Quran. Any author will not contradict himself. And threaten himself right when he has ordered something to be done. Here is the outlines of the story based on the Hadith.

There was a time, when the prophet had 3 wives with him. One of them was clever in making layers of honey. And she made those for the prophet. The prophet loved sweet. So he was very fond of that wife. The other two got a bit jealous. Both of them kep telling him that he is having bad breath because of eating honey.

After sometime, due to both of them kept saying that. He believed them. And he got angry. He made it unlawful to eat honey.

But right when he made that law, the first few verses of Surah At-Tahrim was revealed.
"O Prophet! Why has you made it to be forbidden that which Allah has made lawful to thee? Thou seekest to please thy consorts. But Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Oft-Merciful."

This verse clearly strikes that the prophet has made a mistake and has been threaten by Allah that he is not the one who decides what is lawful and what is unlawful.

Tell me, which leader would even admit that he is wrong by the least? And here, the prophet didn't know he was wrong. And you can imagine how embarressed he was, in front of all the people at that time.

This shows three things. First, it is Allah who decides what is lawful and what is unlawful. Second, Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) is a human and he make mistakes. Third, the Author of Quran can only be Allah to reveal such a verse.

It is the Islamic holiday of Eid ul Fitr today. I'd like to extend my greetings to you.

Asalamoaleikom warahamato allahi wabarakatu

peace be with you, and ALLAH's mercy and blessings..


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