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The honest facts about Islam's "sexually pure" society

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Submitted by julie (United States), Oct 17, 2006 at 08:41

I am married to someone from the Middle East, and have travelled more than most Americans there. I have been in Iraq three times, Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, etc. I can tell you that alot of hype is given to what a pure society Islam produces...and it produces moral pontificators, for sure.

Your comments about keeping boys and girls separated, and women having to wear the veil, etc. are fine if you want to make those statements. But they do not reveal the reality, which is that most young people over in the muslim lands fool around before they ever get married, but they keep it extremely quiet. Look at Iran today.you see boyfriends and girlfriends walking around in each others' arms, right on the street. The reality is that you like to SAY one thing but it is not always accurate.

Alot of women DO stay "virgins" till they are married, but they have oral sex with their boyfriends. Other things go there, which to us, would mean she is no longer a virgin. They so minimize the requirements in their minds, that they may as well be going "all the way." I KNOW...My husband told me so. A huge number of women go to doctors to have their hymens re-installed, saying maybe it happened from an accident. But the doctors admit there is a vast number of women who do this. I have friends who had such operations MORE THAN ONCE. The women in the families band together and keep this from the men so they do not get killed, and so that one day they can actually find a husband.

To a Muslim person who is trying to defend Islam, oral sex does not count. Also gay sex does not count. The men also have gay sex ALOT more than other parts of the world because they feel that they are still virgins if they did not penetrate a woman, and they all agree that they do it not because they are gay, but just for sex. They turn around and get married and most of them quit after that.

However, AFTER they get married, they go hog-wild in Egypt. I know because I saw it in people I saw sleeping together that were married to other people, and the married people there also told me this happens. What is the point of staying technically a virgin, if after the marriage you are free game for any other married person? The people do not follow moral guidelines whatsoever, but in the name of Islam, they pretend to the rest of us that they do.

I will say this: my husband, being a MIddle easterner, had a very low opinion of the USA in terms of morals. He was SHOCKED to see how Victorian we really ARE, especaily compared to Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and even Europe. He knows now that we go to greater lengths to keep porn off the TV and out of the newspapers than anyone else. I was shocked to see on the front page of the major papers in Ankara PROSTITUTES on the top part of the front page, and inside the second page were their phone numbers. These were not magazines...these were the daily papers.

Please do not pontificate to us over here in the USA about how moral your societies are due to Islam. I know that you do honor/mercy killings all the time, and of course, if we killed off anyone who had sex, we could say that Christianity forms a moral society. IT IS OUTRIGHT WRONG for you to claim Islam causes morality. It is the elimination of anyone you think does something immoral, that gives you all the illusion you have a moral society. It just is a fact that people ar the same all over the world; they love God or they do not.


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