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Submitted by Sue (United Kingdom), Sep 29, 2005 at 05:52

Hi all, i was satisfied with the conlusion i had sent, about stopping such debates cause it's useless. we'd rather respect eachother and study the religions if we want among ourselves in order not offend others.
However, reading more of the sent comments, i can't help myself of sending one more time.

Dear Don,
Please stop using quotes from the Bible, cause a lot of people don't believe in it, and no matter how much u quote, it's not convincing, cause others believe it's written by man's hand anyway and could've been changed. When u say Jesus said this and that it doesn't make sense to others, cause they don't believe he said it in the first place. The bible was written after Jesus (pbuh) has died, so there's no guarantee that it's true. when u die, u cannot control what is said about u, can u??

So if u are really desperately wanting to discuss differences about religions, u should first try to discuss why u believe in a book, and not believe in another. (though i'm still convinced one should find this out himself without critizing the others).
So did u ever hear about the story of Galileo? when he proved that the earth was circulating around the sun, while the Church believed the sun circulated around the earth, and the church decided to kill him cause he's contradicting the their believes?

ok, did u ever think about the language in which the bible is written? didn't u ever compare it to any other normal book that any author has written, and it was exactly the same or even poorer?

Now please give me one or more miracle about the bible, that makes one believe that what is written in it is true. cause i have read the whole bible and failed to find anything like that.

Now knowing that much about Islam as u show, did u ever think why the muslims believe in the Quran in the first place? instead of trying to find proves of the Quran that serve ur debate?

well, believe me, it's not because Muhammand (pbuh) is a clever man who managed to repeat the bible and remove the idols from it. Cause Muhammad lived almost 1400 years ago.
How could he possibly know all the scientifcal miracles mentioned in the Quran? if most of them we just found out and proved now or recently?

The Quran beside having a remarkably amazing language that no one on earth could repeat even the most knowledable in the Arabic language, has also a lot of scientfic miracles that nothing quoted in the Quran is not matching with the findings and researches till now.

The Quran's language is so rich and difficult, that some translators for example one of the professors who translated it to the French language had to create new French words, in order to manage. And this is one of the other reasons why people can only translate the meaning of the Quran and not the Quran itself!!

now back to the scientific miracles and quotes. The Quran of more than 1400 years ago managed to quote that earth has an oval shape. other books failed in that. and by that time no one had a clue about it. The Quran talks about how the mountains are not just something on the surface, it is also deep down in the earth to keep the balance. No one knew that till very late. (cause people at the time of the prophet didn't know these things, so they learned it as it was said from the prophet without knowing the scientific meaning behind it). The Quran talked about the Fetus, and all the steps of its developement. I believe 1400 years ago no one had a scan to be able to know that, not even Muhammand (pbuh). The Quran talked about the waves of the sea, that they're not only on the surface but deep in the see there are also many levels of waves in the sea, and how it gets dark whenever u go deeper cause of these deep waves. I believe that Muhammad(pbuh) didn't live near any sea, didn't see any sea, and if he did, he didn't dive or make any scientific researches about it. The Quran talked about the space, and how the Sky is in many levels. Something found out lately. It also describes things about the stars. And Muhammad nor anybody else had rockets at that time.

There are a lot of other things i could tell u. So did u ever wonder why the Quran is alive till now, and why do muslims believe in it? Cause there are many miracles about it that prove it's not from a human being.

So how about the bible?? we all know it is written by people. so how do u know for sure they didn't lie if u weren't there when they wrote it?

So u cannot take some points of the quoran that suits ur debate and leave others that doesn't. Either take it as a whole and understand it as a complete thing, or just leave it all.

Anyway, again i say there's no point of arguing like that, cause really proving beliefs could be endless. I personally respect all religions even if i don't believe in them so i don't have any problem in my life. Others who seem to have the problem i don't understand why.
and the way to world peace is not by giving up the religion as someone has written here, it's by respecting and loving eachother inspite of the differences. we don't have to be copies of eachother to manage to cope. usually differences should be more attractive and not lead to wars.

Each one of us is responsible for his own choices in life, and not for the choices of others. So each one should just act and believe the way he feels is right regardless what others say or do.
and trying to convince others with what we believe doesn't mean destroying and attacking what they believe. one can just simply explain why he believes in this or that. others could think about it themselves or just ignore it.

Why don't people argue about their other differences like style or languages as much as they argue about their religions? Why doesn't someone try to convince me why i should start speaking italian instead of German for example?
People accept my different language but not my different belief? How bizzare!
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