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Submitted by Bishop Gabrielle Crofts OCC (Australia), Sep 16, 2012 at 05:13

Dear Dr Daniel Pipes,

Thank you for your most insightful article.I have been reading all you have ever written on Islam, none was ever insulting, rather it has always been open and truthful backed up by quotes and source of reference materials as all true academics must do to attain the amazing credibility which you have to date done.

I admit I am still in awe of your ability to predict possible outcomes.

I agree with you 100 per cent.

I believe, after studying islam and its Koran and history for many years (about 20 yrs privately), I believe it is time for a brave person to make a full documentary on Muhammad and his life and teachings, the movie would need to be at least 2 hrs long if to investigate each year of Muhammads life and origins, his teachings and his actions.

Political correctness has no place in true academic investigation and reporting.

This needs to happen so that the world can view a dispassionate academically correct insight to show people how muhammad lived, what he taught using koranic and hadith passages, Muslims need to realise that it is important that the truthful account of Muhammad be done.

It cannot be seen to be provoking shame to Islam but actually teaching the real teachings of Muhammad. How a movie which teaches the Surahs and Hadith can be insulting to anyone, makes no sense at all. Movies have been made about Jesus, and all the Saints of the Church. Movies on the Crusades and movies on other religions. Massive numbers of documentaries on every religion has been made and did not evoke violent responses.

I believe that muslims today throughout the east and the west are making it clear that they want to control the conversation, and dialogue, control every aspect of speech, and academic writings to put Islam in the most propaganda positive style, towards the propagation of Islam.

Muslims today, are showing how quickly they will resort to violence, and they themselves, through Imams and leaders, use quaranic verses to justify their senseless murders and rapes,and enslaving innocent human beings yes the slave trade is alive and flourishing. This is despite the U.N forbidding slavery.

It has been reported that the Ambassador was homosexually raped to humiliate him and three others, before murdering him in cold blood, a man whom had tried to help the Libyans by smuggling himself into Libya to help the opposition.

Just what type of acts does it take for the western leaders to wake up to a reality that muslims do not want modernity and technology, freedom of religion, equality of womens rights, freedom of speech or freedom of liberating from oppressive rulers. Islam does not support secularism nor democracy as we know it.

The results in mid east thus far has shown what has replaced the former tyrants has been actually worse, Ayatollah Khomeini is a classic example of carter and CIA suporting the removal of the Shah whom had tried to modernise Iran.The influence of Iran to post occupation of Iraq now that forces of USA and Allies have left, is deeply troubling, in terms of calls to re instate the caliphate. One by one, the Middle East will fall to the influence of Iran.

If one by one Iran makes the Mid East into two armed camps an inevitable clash between Sunni regimes and Shiite regimes will absolutely follow to gain supremacy of one form of Islam over another with massive deaths to come. It is inevitable.

The misguided funding of Hamas by Obama and giving a Billion dollars to Egypt to declared enemies of the usa (Muslim Brotherhood) is nothing short of deliberate funding of the enemies of USA which as Commander in Chief of USA his duty is foremost to the internal issues of USA and not to fund its enemies, I believe it is a form of High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

It is illegal for the President to aid and abet the declared enemies of USA. One need only to read what the Muslim Brotherhood communique seized in the 1990's set out the intention of long term Jihad against USA and it is succeeding with its front groups such as CAIR (Unindited Co Conspirators in the case against the MB..

The Western system of secular government is at risk now Hillary and Obama have both come out to condemn those who use their rights of freedom of speech and it upset someone else. So what? Thats what freedom and Liberty is. The right to offend others is guaranteed with Freedom of Speech to say what we need to regardless. This must be defended, otherwise our actual civilisation and our Freedoms Rights will be lost to the violent demands of a faith that it militant and at its core teachings of military conquest of every nation on earth according the Koran dictates will oppress our very nations in near future.

Submission to Shariah Law is unacceptable in Our Nations.

If Muslims do not like our western way of life they must look at themselves and decide it is time to leave the west so that they wont be offended by our freedoms. It is not for us to change our way of life and our freedoms that millions have fought to gain and keep will have all been wasted and be in vain..Strength through military might must win out.Obamas regime must cease all foreign aid to all muslim nations and allow them to self determine and work out their own way to economically survive it is not up to our taxpayers to hold up a oppressive regime by funding our enemies which declared they are our enemies.

Muslims need to take a hard look at themselves and realise that if their faith is insulted by our freedom of expression and freedoms of speech, then of course it is only rational that The West is no place for them if they think that they can use violence to cower the West into submission and silence, out of fear.Violent protests by Islamists in our nations must be stopped by force and the outspoken calls for beheading us- round up the leaders, use their own recorded words to prosecute them at law and deport them by force if necessary. These violent protests must never be in appeasement, be tolerated, it is true that Toleration of Evil is a crime, Burke.

In history, time after time, wars and violence were used to try to silence the west even up to the second world war and middle east wars now.

The islamist push against technology, freedom of speech, modernity and civilised behaviours of the West must result in a push back by stopping all sales of weaponry and technology, and cease foreign aid.

The islamist nations must be forced to go it alone and sort their own problems out without USA Aid.

Same goes for Australian Government needs to stop giving money to islamic nations to build madrassas and mosques it is not out duty nor our responsibility especially to Malaysia and Indonesia our neighbours who do not like us.

Our governments are funding our enemies and ensuring our future demise . Australia was disarmed, all the citizenry forbidden to own guns, and we are so vulnerable now militarily to invasion and a Coup by armed Islamic nations. Australias military are unable to respond as it is too tiny in comparison.

May God please save the vulnerable Coptic Christians, The African and Asian and Middle East Christians/Zoastrians and Jews etc are being murdered every day, they are whom need our money and aid to come to the safety of the Western Nations especially Australia.

The West MUST allow their immediate and total escape to the West by refugee status. I believe that a massive concerted programme of Air Flight mass evacuation of the Middle Eastern Christians must begin by airlift immediately, or they will continue to be slaughtered.

Our Nations must respond with compassion and love and help these targetted for death individals and families. Please USA and Australia, start the evacuation of Jews anad Christians and non muslims from ther East immediately to save their lives.

In Jesus name

His loyal Servant forever

Bishop Gabrielle Crofts OCC

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