Let's drop the meta

Submitted by TGGP (United States), Dec 5, 2007 at 04:58

I don't know what you are trying to get at with "meta-unreality".

It would be more persuasive if any of its assumptions were true.
I said a number of things, many of which are facts you can look up. List my assumptions that you think false.

The Mullocracy has offered to "let Iran burn" if it advances the Caliphate.
Remember "crazy Nixon" and Mao's "paper tiger"? Ignore bluster, look at action. Iran won't be able to make much of a Caliphate considering that the vast majority of Muslims are not Twelver Shi'ites. It's my impression that they think the legitimate leader should go along a certain line of the Prophet's descendants, and the last one never died (he's just hiding), so there is no Caliphate until he returns.

Kahmeni was not Iranian.
Wikipedia disagrees.

They are first of all abusers of Iranians.
I think all governments abuse their citizens, and Iran more than the standards set by liberal democracies. The question is, so what?

Reinforcing them by negotiating their continuance would be abuse of Iranians.
Attacking them (both verbally and militarily) just makes them more popular. Simple nationalism, why expect otherwise? Most Iranians are really rather apathetic: they got burned by one revolution promising to deliver them from an oppressive regime, why have high hopes for the next go-round?

Khamenei is gone
From Wikipedia: "Seyyed Ali Khamene'i,^[1] is the current Supreme Leader of Iran"

"Watchful waiting" is not an option.
Going bowling wearing nothing but peanut butter is an option, there's just no good reason to do it. Advance some arguments against watchful waiting.

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