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Our dear Arche does not know that Q5:13 really means that the Qur'an is a corrupted book! What a disaster

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Submitted by dhimmi no more, Feb 11, 2019 at 15:39

Boys and girls, we have a scholar here. So read and laugh.

Our dear Arche al-tablighee wrote this gem

>The Truth is that Muslims use Caution when using the Bible to expand the Quran

They have to and do you know why? Because the Qur'an is a confused and confusing book.

Example? Who is Israel? Your Allah talks about a man by the name of Israel but he never tells us who is that Israel. Your Allah talks about Arabic speaking ants and Solayman's flying carpet but not a single word about who is Israel? Why is that Mr genius? And where can Muslims find about who is really the Quranic Israel?

Hint: They have to consult the Bible! Right Mr genius? More comedy? Muslims have to consult a "corrupted" book in-order to find out who is that Israel! What a disaster

So let me help you our dear Arche: Israel is يعقوب and you will never find it in the Qur'an that يعقوب هو اسراءيل

Oh the Arabic? You see our dear Arche you need to know Arabic

>Please since when do Muslim say of the Koran what Biblical scholars say. The names of Ham , Shem Jappeth are not based on Koran. It seems that those earlier believers from Christianity & Judaism brought their interpretation of Noah's sons as the basis for dividing nations. It is not rather Christians read their Bible I am concerned with. It is that Muslims read the Bible and take it as an extension, explanation or accurate portrayal to the Holy Quran .

Mr genius: How would you find in my above example who is really Israel without reading the Bible? Explain to us Mr genius.

>" they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind) Quran Al-maeda 13.

Oh it says: يحرفون الكلم عن مواضعه

This can be rendered as: They corrupt (change) the words from their places

This means the following:

1. Your so called Allah defines التحريف or (textual) corruption as changing the words from their places which is a stupid definition anyway

2. But here is the real disaster: Qur'an سورة العلق is supposed to be the first revealed sura but now it is Sura 96 and it is not the first Sura in the Qur'an. This means that the author of the Qur'an is saying that the Qur'an is a corrupted book! Do you get it our dear Arche?

3. Your so called Prophet in a famous hadith said (and this is from an old post of mine):

This is a famous hadith from and here is the text in Arabic from سنن ابي داود 4449

قال أتى نفر من يهود فدعوا رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم إلى القف فأتاهم في بيت المدراس فقالوا يا أبا القاسم إن رجلا منا زنى بامرأة فاحكم بينهم فوضعوا لرسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وسادة فجلس عليها ثم قال بالتوراة فأتي بها فنزع الوسادة من تحته فوضع التوراة عليها ثم قال آمنت بك وبمن أنزلك ثم قال ائتوني بأعلمكم فأتي بفتى شاب ثم ذكر قصة الرجم نحو حديث مالك عن نافع

Or; He said that a few Jews came to the messenger of Allah (Muhammad) May Allah pray upon him and salute to the Qaf and met them in the house of Midrash and they (the Jews said) O Abul Qasim there is a man that fornicated with a woman then rule between them, they put a cushion for the messenger of Allah may Allah pray upon him, He (Muhammad) sat on the cushion then he told me bring me the Turat they brought it he pulled the cushion that he was sitting on it and placed the Tawrat on top of it

Then Muhammad said: آمنت بك or I believed in you (the Turat) and وبمن انزلك and with who revealed you (YHWH)

This means that:

1. It means that the Bible is not corrupted at least during the time of Muhammad

2. Or Muhammad was a fool and he was swearing on a corrupted text

So which one is it our dear Arche?

>"And, behold, there are indeed some among them who distort the (Book) Bible with their tongues, so as to make you think that [what they say] is from the (Book) Bible,

Mr genius: Where would I find the word الكتاب المقدس or التوراة والانجيل in the verse? You will not find them

You are and you must pardon me a liar!

>the while it is not from the Bible;

Liar again the word "Bible" is not in the text

>and who say, "This is from God," the while it is not from God: and thus do they tell a lie about God, being well aware [that it is a lie]) Quran Al-Imran 78.

Your Allah says that he is the author of التوراة والانجيل right? Or did he forget? So I will help you: Where can we find a copy of Allah's التوراة والانجيل? What happened to them? Were they also eaten by a hungry goat like the one that ate the Qur'an?

What a disaster: The Qur'an is a corrupted book by its own definition and Allah cannot protect his book from a goat and from the Jews and Christians! I thought your Allah is omnipotent!

How did this happen our dear Arche al-Tablighee?

Leave Islam and revert back to Hinduism the religion of your ancestors and say goodbye to the Arabs and their imperialism

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