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Pipes vs Wilders

Reader comment on item: "You can't fight Islamism with ideas coming out of Europe"

Submitted by Gershom (Germany), Dec 7, 2010 at 18:27

I'm writing from Germany, living in a city with a population of about 25% foreign origin (primarily Turk/Kurd).

I run a school (teach also) in adult education, people attempting to reach middle or high school equivalents. I've been doing this for about 15 years and my students range from 15 to 50 yrs of age. About 60-70 % are muslims. I engage my students as often as possible in questions about Islam ( about which I know more about than most of them- I'm a Jew) and naturally about Islamo-fascism. I have often asked about a reform movement in Islam, and most agree, most are integrated into the german society and couldn't dream of following a sharia governed entitiy. That said, when it comes to action on their words, they're scared out of their wits.

In the case of the overtake, I'm just a kafir, dhimmi, but if they backtalk their Imman, they are considered apostates and become free to execute. This indicates, they don't feel secure to develope a reform movement, because they don't trust the lefty, multiculti government. A reform movement in Islam, anywhere in Europe, is lethal. Although the vast majority of moslems are non-discript, even apathic, there is a viral core of fanatics in every community that are more than willing to take on the "honor" of honor killings. We have seen this happen often in Germany alone. Dr. Pipes says Islam must reform from within, but I find that, in all respect, naive and very abstract.

The facts on the ground tell a different story. Reformers must be given free room to develope within a legalistic framework put down by regulations dictated by the host country. Then and only then can a developement take place. Islam has about a thousand years of developement in the human rights sector they have to catch up with. They can't do that from within and the reformers can't do it without the legislative and executive backing of European Governments which they are not getting. In the end I tend to side with the stategy of Geert Wilders. We can't afford, for many, many reasons to leave Islam to its own means and hope for the best.

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