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Submitted by susan (Italy), May 28, 2007 at 10:47

"Of course we are against murder of any sort. After Hrant Dink's murder thousands of Turkish citizens protested against this incident. So we do not rally about stupid things as you say."

thousands? protested? I guess the number is a lot lower than the ones who cheered.

How many protested for father santoro? how many protested for the publishers of the bible being tortured?

Right. Nobody.

The "thousands" of turkish protesting were probably either christians and/or of armenian origin.

"When Pope came, the protests were about what he was going to say... He was planning to talk about "ecumenical status of Orthodox Church in İstanbul" . So of course some people have rights to protest this kind of ideology."

you are repressing every non-muslim church and the pope or whoever else cannot say this is wrong? and you call it ideology?

So I guess Nelson Mandela was wrong in talking about mistreatment of blacks in south africa because his "ideology" was clashing with the residents.

What kind of statement is that? is that the turkish idea of critical thinking?

"Protests are legal rights in my country. But i accept that there were some radical people there too."

I believe in your country any protest against mistreatment of christians would be shut down immediately.

Radical people? let's summarize who said what.

ANKARA (Reuters) - Employees of the state body that organizes Muslim worship in Turkey asked the authorities on Tuesday to open legal proceedings against Pope Benedict and to arrest him when he visits the country in November

Chants of "No to the Pope!" rose among the nearly 25,000 demonstrators at every mention of the pope's remarks on violence and the Prophet Muhammad. Many protesters wore headbands with anti-pope slogans and waved placards that included a depiction of Benedict as the grim reaper.

ISTANBUL, Turkey - Police on Wednesday detained about 40 members of a Turkish nationalist party who earlier had occupied one of Istanbul's most famous buildings, the Haghia Sophia, to protest the visit next week of Pope Benedict XVI.

ANKARA (Reuters) - Turkey's top Muslim official said on Thursday Pope Benedict should state clearly during a planned visit to Turkey next week he believes Islam, like Christianity, to be a religion of peace.
Turkey's ruling Islamic-rooted party joined a wave of criticism of Pope Benedict XVI on Friday, accusing him of trying to revive the spirit of the Crusades with remarks he made about Islam. A party official said the pontiff would go down in history "in the same category as leaders such as Hitler and Mussolini" for his words.

So you have TOP turkey politicians/leaders asking those sort of stuff and thousands and thousands of turks asking to arrest the pope or worse. This alone greatly outnumbers the 2 or 3 lonely who rallied for Dink.

..."The bottom line is the argument i've told you before... our western allies should stop supporting radical ideologies against us(as i've mentioned Fettullah G├╝len in USA or other radicals in European countries). We are terribly suffering because of that support. Every religion of course have it's radicals and we are trying to stop them by all means."

always the same muslim tactic, put the blame on someone else. Have you put your foot in a shit this morning? it's the WEST's FAULT. ALWAYS. That or the joooos.

Anything, except putting the blame where it belongs, your murderous attitude and racist behaviour.

"Every religion of course have it's radicals and we are trying to stop them by all means."

give me the list of radical shamanists, radical animists, radical buddist.

So it's easy to say that NOT all religion have radicals. Only islam has radicals that are praised and supported by the muslim community

"I'm giving you a list of consulate members killed by Christian terrorist organization ASALA in some western countries which you've never protested against. Please leave the blind hatred alone."

consulate members are not imams, and give me the list, I believe is so short it's not even comparable with the infinite list of christians that you turks alone have murdered.

Asala is a "christian" organization?

let's see what the definition is : The Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA) was a Marxist-Leninist guerrilla organization, that operated from 1975 to 1986.

marxist-leninist? nothing to do with christianity.

Nice attempt, is this your christianophobia talking? are you willing to state that Mao was christian too?

I can see how "deeply sorry" you are when christians die in your country simply by reading how you put anything in connection with christianity only if it suits your need.

You turks are affected with christianophobia so don't sell me talking of "we are sorry of those losses"...

"You can't possibly kill any imams in some of the European countries since there are no mosques in most of the cities."

turkish lies.

It would be great not to have any of your mosques around, unfortunately here's the numbers.

The number of mosques in France has increased to at least 1554 by the end of 2003, moving from rented underground rooms to owned places of worship in public places and squares.

French journalist and Islamic affairs expert Xavier Ternisien said the Paris northern suburb of Saint Denis hosts alone 97 mosques while there are 73 others in north France.

Berlin - The number of mosques in Germany has risen by more than 10 per cent in the past two years and many more are under construction, the Central Institute of Islamic Archives said Thursday.

The head of the archives, Salim Abdullah, said Muslims in Germany could visit 159 mosques with domes and minarets, compared to 141 in 2004. In addition, some 128 mosques are under construction, Abdullah told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa.

"Since 1945 the number of mosques in England grew from 1 to well over 1000.

The number of mosques in England and Wales rose up by over 20 per cent in the last five years, according to new official figures.

Registrar General Karen Dunnell said that the number of certified places of meeting for religious worship by those professing the Muslim religion reached 754 at the end of June this year.


So before talking about "the west" of which you know nothing about, educate yourself. We have far too many mosques for the benefits brought by muslims in our lands.

But I know for sure that your state controlled media told you that europe doesn't have mosques, so you believe like a sheep everything your goverment feeds you. Is that the turkish way of "having a critical thinking?"

So we would have plenty of imams to kill, none of that happened. Unfortunately...


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