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The barbarian ancestors of the barbarian Turks

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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Sep 5, 2012 at 18:44

Faruk ,

Don't you think that it's a thankless job to to discuss history with somebody who knows none and refuses to learn any ? As every Turk - excepting one notable Turkish communist I knew - I have the misfortune and displeasure to meet and talk to, you make big claims and create even bigger appearances out of thin Anatolian air. But instead of supporting them with some hard evidence you expect me to refute them. Still, I assure you that there is nothing easier in this world than exposing the official Turkish lies which you have copied , warmed up and served here for us to consume. But I am fed up with the stale rotten and fake Turkish cuisine, you know. Furthermore, exposing all the fraud and ignorance hidden in your words would be useless because you as a typical narcissist Turk are in principle unable to learn anything critical about yourself , let alone admit you are or even may be wrong. All discussions with you Turks end the same familiar way with you changing subject and barking at the end something like "I'll f... your mother ! " ... or you simply disappear when exposed.

And still let me just make one point. You say "And I expect same respect for me and for my ancestors."

I'd be extremely interested to learn by what (Moslem?) right can you expect something which neither you nor you ancestors deserve? Will you kindly satisfy my kafiri curiosity ... ? Why should I respect something which commands no respect in the first place? When you want to say "If you don't respect me and my ancestors I'll do with you what my ancestors did with Armenians" , then feel free to use plain text without euphemisms and PC newspeak ! Clarity is always welcome, particularly when dealing with rascals and thugs, you know.

Now why do I say that ? First, because by repeating the official Turkish lies , you make a liar of yourself, whether you are aware of that or not. Second, if you want to see your ancestors and what they stand for , then go to Batak in Bulgaria and see St. Nedelya Skull Church there or take a look at the Skull Cathedral in Otranto. It's all your ancestors' work ! And mark that I am polite enough and don't want you to visit the Greek cemetery in Constantinople where maybe your father or uncle or somebody from your clan-soi - in 1955 undug the remains of the Greeks to defecate on them shouting "Ne mutlu turkum diyene"!

Or look at your older ancestors' " great deeds" as recorded in historical documents you haven't managed to burn down yet as you did with the Greek or Armenian heritage in Anatolia and Nortehrn Cyprus.

Emperor Alexius writes to Count of Flanders about your ancestors some ten years after Manzikert :

" I wish to make known your prudence how the most sacred empire of the Greek Christians is being sorely distressed by the Patzinaks and the Turks, who daily ravage it and intermittently seize its territory and there is promiscuous slaughter and indesribable killing and derision of the Christians.

For they circumcise the boys and youths of the Christians over the Christian baptismal fonts, and in contempt of Christ they pour the blood from the circumcision into the said baptismal fonts and compel them to void urine thereon; and thereafter they violently drag them around in the church, compelling them to blaspheme the name of the Holy Trinity and the belief therein. But those who refuse to do these things they punish in diverse ways and ultimately they kill them. Noble matrons and their daughters whom they have robbed [of their possessions] they, one after another like animals, defile in adultery...
But what further? Let us come to matters of greater depravity. Men of every age and order i.e. boys, adolescents, youths, old men, nobles, serfs, and, what is worse and more shameless, clergymen and monks, and alas and alack, what from the beginning has never been said or heard, bishops! - they defile with the sin of sodomy and now they are also trumpeting abroad that one bishop has succumbed to this abominable sin.

The holy places they desecrate and destroy in numberless ways, and they threaten them with worse treatment. "...

I could continue with accounts of this sort from all places where your Turkish ancestors set their unholy foot. But you have the cheek to ask me to respect your ancestors or you ? ;) Imagine that unlike you I am not used to respecting evil but to hating and exposing it.

You also write :

>But for me and most of Turkish People war against Greece, Europeans and against all old enemies is over as long as they live in peace with us.But those times are over, it is different now.<

You Turks can live and have NEVER lived with anybody in peace and it is ALWAYS you that started wars of jihad ! How did the Byzantines offend you to invade and occupy their lands? How did Serbia, Bulgaria,Hungary, Poland,Austria, Venice,Russia offend you that you started wars against them alone or through your Tatar vassals?What did the Polish, Russian, Serbian,Greek,Georgian,Armenian,Austrian,Hungarian, Italian slaves do to you that you hunted, mishandled and herded them like cattle to sell them on your notorious Ottoman slave markets ? Why did you start WWI by bombing Russian Black Sea Ports? Who gave this liar and mass murderer Kemal Ataturk a to exterminate the Kurds ? Can you name to me a single war where Turkey was involved where in your Turkish history books you Turks take responsibility for provoking it ?

I have also to help your faulty memory on another topic. Genocides have no statutory limitation and nobody will ever forgive and forget the genocides you perpetrated and upon which your ... Islamic horde has been built and thrived.

>Otherwise there are others like me to remind you your place.<

... or like me to remind you of yours, although I do doubt any Kazakh or Uzbek or Kyrgyz would be happy to see such barbarians as you back in the lower Syr Darya region or in the deserts of Karakum where the Turkish plague that brought so much regress , misery and destruction to the civilized world originated in the 10th century A.D.

Submitting....

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