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Submitted by orange yonason (United States), Aug 16, 2006 at 14:29

BS"D

Every day just keeps getting more interesting. Just when I think I understand the issues, I realize that I hadn't a clue, and probably still don't. But, one does have to keep trying, so here's something that is relatively news to me, and I'm guessing to probably many others of Dr. Pipes' readership. Thank G-d that Al Gore "invented" the internet, so we could have access to the thoughts of smart and honest people.

Here are the rules of modern warfare, as related by Victor David Hanson, via Dr.Sanity. I believe these two provide ample corroboration of, as well as new insight into, Dr.Pipes' words.

Dr.Sanity's comments are in italics, and VDH's in bold Italics.

"…1. Any death — enemy or friendly, accidental or deliberate, civilian or soldier — favors the terrorists.
Rule #2 comes about because of the marxist template that modern journalism uses to filter all news from the war (i.e., the "Oppressor"/"Oppressed" meme, in which the U.S. is always by definition the "Oppressor");


3. The opposition — whether an establishment figure like Howard Dean [is that 'scarf' for real?] or an activist such as Cindy Sheehan — ultimately prefers the enemy to win.
Rule #3 ensures that the opposition to the war always be considered more moral than the waging of the war (see reasons 1 and 2 above) and besides, since we are the oppressors in every conflict, we deserve to lose. have shown little morality, but plenty of influence, abroad and here at home during Middle East wars [not to mention the Balkans]. [...because...] To win these wars, we need to outsource the job to those who can fight them with impunity. [Dr. Sanity has a very dark yet revealing post that speaks to this issue.]

2. All media coverage of fighting in the Middle East is ultimately hostile — and for a variety of reasons.

4. Europeans

5. To fight in the Middle East, the United States and Israel must enlist China , Russia , Europe , or any nation in the Arab world to fight its wars.

6. Time is always an enemy. .... To win these wars, they should be over in 24 hours — but at all cost no more than 8 weeks.

That would seem to explain why the political Left is ALWAYS be opposed to victory, from Vietnam to Iraq (unless THEY start the war, and/or are currently the ones running it) and why their positions resonate so well with Russia, China and Socialist Europe, at best.

If you need more background information, Dr.Sanity provides some.
"I discuss in this post how the goals of socialism/communism and Islamofascism have come to be blended together…"

Re: update quoting Thomas Ricks:
"Such a strategy might be considered logical and even moral..." T.R.
By whom, Caligula?

….

-Wars must be won by soldiers who should not die; and who must not kill
-US (and Israeli) soldiers are alternately helpless victims of the oppressive capitalistic society of America/Israel; and oppressive savages indiscriminantly killing helpless women and children
-The enemy can brutally and indiscriminantly kill 100's, even 1000's of innocent Americans/Israelis, but they are justified in doing so because of our oppression; while American/Israeli forces who use special caution and effort to spare innocents in their attacks on the enemy are guilty of heinous war crimes.

Etc. Etc."
.....
This postmodern assault has been out in the open for some time now. It is being used by the new 21st century totalitarians to undermine:
- Objective reality
- Reason and the rational debate of ideas
- Individual freedom and freedom of thought and speech
- Progress and capitalism

The political and rhetorical strategies include:
- The distortion of language and meaning to undermine the individual's perception of reality;
- The use of direct or threatened physical violence to suppress speech and individual freedom;
- Politically "correct" thought control and cultural relativism to undermine reason and rational debate;
- The promotion of environmental hysteria to undermine progress, industrialization and capitalism"

Submitting....

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