Our dear petrus wrote this gem: "elohim is plural, allah is singular"! Dear readers: Let us all read and laugh together!

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Mar 23, 2018 at 08:13

Our dear petrus al-tablighee wrote

>It is the same root of the word and means GOD.

What "same root"? Can you name the "root"? And why does al-Tabari tell us that the word Allah is really a contraction of the word al-Ilah or THE GOD (not God)? But again tanlighees like you that cannot speak read or write Arabic have no clue about the rule of the Arabic language definite article al al-Ta'reef

Are you also aware that your revered Muslim sources (including Sheikh al-Azhar) tell us that the word Allah is a loan word from the Syriac word for God Alaha Here is al-Halabi if you can read Arabic which I doubt very much

أنه ليس بعربي بل هو معرب، وهو سرياني الوضع وأصله: "لاها" فعربته العرب فقالوا: الله، واستدلوا على ذلك بقول الشاعر:
29- كحلفة من أبي رياح * يسمعها لاهه الكبار
فجاء به على الأصل قبل التعريب، ونق ذلك أبو زيد البلخي.

What a disaster Allah is not an Arabic word!

More disasters? In Surat al-Fatiha it says:

الحمد لله

Notice the word لله which is really ل or To and له or Lah so is your Allah's name Lah? What a disaster

So what is your Allah's Arabic name?

And do you think this is why Christians in the Middle East call their God Allah? And it was Muslims that should not be using such a loan word and use the word Ilah?

See our dear petrus it is not smart to dish out nonsense more so about languages that you cannot speak read or write

But most damaging to your case: Is your Allah the Ethnic God of the Jews or Jesus? The answer is No

>Every modern linguist of Semitic languages knows that. Hebrew and Arabic originate from the same proto language:

"Proto language"? Mashallah! So what? And what is that proto language our dear petrus al-tablighee?

>Abraham is Ibrahim,

But wait our dear petrus you can also find the word Abraham in the Qur'an! Oh you don't believe me? Here from an old post of mine:

Dr Pipes

Most Arabic speaking Muslims are surprised to read the name Abraham instead of Ibrahim in verses in Surat al-Baqra that mentions his name And it is a topic of discussion among Arabic speaking Muslims

http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vb/showthread.php?t=85010

So here is a primer about the name of Abraham/Ibrahim in the Qur'an

This is the form of the name Ibrahim that readers will find in most of the Qur'an

ابراهيم

However, the Quranic rasm would be missing the dot under the Ba letter and the two dots under the Ya letter

Now in Surat al-Baqara we read:

ابرهم

Or ABRHM And it is edited by al-Mufasereen as:

إبراهام

Or 'Abraham

Notice that even the shameful translation by Sahih International edits his name as

إبراهم

And here is Sahih International translation of Q2:124

https://quran.com/2/124

al-Mufasereen as usual do not have answers why would the name of Abraham be Ibrahim and Abraham

The name Ibrahim in Arabic has no meaning and this is for sure the crux of the problem because al-Mufasereen were not sure which one form of the name is the correct form

However, al-Qurtubi comes to the rescue. He tells the readers that

وإبراهيم تفسيره بالسريانية فيما ذكر الماوردي ، وبالعربية فيما ذكر ابن عطية : أب رحيم . قال السهيلي : وكثيرا ما يقع الاتفاق بين السرياني والعربي أو يقاربه في اللفظ ، ألا ترى أن إبراهيم تفسيره أب راحم ، لرحمته بالأطفال

Or Ibrahim is a Syriac name according to al-Mawardi and in Arabic according to Ibn Attiya: "Ab Raheem" (merciful father) Al-Suhaili said that it is common to have (same meaning) in Arabic and Syriac of similar words And the tafsir of the name Ibrahim is "Ab Rahem" (notice that he changes the above Syriac Raheem and makes it Arabic Rahem) for his rahma (read as love) to children

Still the Arabic word Ibrahim has no meaning because the above is an obvious case of tabrir (making things up)

Then al-Qurtubi comes to the strange conclusion that Muslims should read his word with a Ya as in Ibrahim and his God uses an Alif as in Abraham! Very strange indeed and not unlike Ibn Kathir telling Muslims to read Q20:63 as Ina Hadhayin la Sahiran and write as Ina Hadhan la Sahiran

وقراءة العامة إبراهيم بالنصب ، ربه بالرفع على ما ذكرنا

The most astonishing part of this disaster is that in the Saudi Qur'an in Arabic the Quranic Abraham in Q2:124 is edited as Ibrahim and they not only edited the Quranic text but they also edited the writings of al-Mufasereen and expunged the Quranic Abraham!

http://quran.ksu.edu.sa/tafseer/katheer/sura2-aya124.html

How did this happen?

1. Could this be just a mistake and the scribes who wrote إبراهام or Abraham instead of إبراهيم or Ibrahim? Not likely

2. Or could it be that the scribes that wrote the verses in Surat al-Baqara were familiar with the name Abraham and not Ibrahim? This is most likely what happened

The Quranic Abraham must be an Arabization of the Syriac ܐܒܪܗܡ or ABRHM! Compare this with the rasm in Q2:124 ابرهم or ABRHM same as in Syriac

And more evidence that the Qur'an is very much linked to Syro-Arabic Christianity"

How did this happen our dear petrus? So are you saying that if your name is Muhammad you must be the Muhammad mentioned in the Qur'an?

> Shalom is Salaam.

So?

> Do not forget that muslims worship Jesus as a prophet

Really? So where would I find in the Qur'an anything close to: ان المسلمين يعبدون المسيح? You will not find it and why would Muslims pray to a prophet? But wait your Allah and his angels pray to Muhammad right our dear petrus as in صلى الله عليه وسلم

What a disaster Allah prays upon a mere human being and more evidence that Muslims also pray to Muhammad!

How come you did not know that?

>and they are right!

Is this a Fatwa that Muslims pray to Jesus? If so then I will inform your Wahhabi masters and a Fatwa of Takfir will not be far behind!

Now do us all a favor: Stick to Urdu!

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