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Spiritual (Such as Prophetical) Things are Not Confined to Buildings Called Church

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in response to reader comment: Prophecies should be left in place of worship.

Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Jun 13, 2011 at 12:03

Let us clear the amenities first: Disciple of Jesus Christ; Biblical chauvinist; Goy, Zionist. Having established that many who are in this forum are well informed in a Biblical way, and in a Quranic way, and some Hindu, some with the Vedra, some Buddhist, some with the Mishna and Talmud, some agnostic and some as downright admitted atheists, etc, it would be this reader's surmising that this cannot be confined to secular perspectives, especially when considering the rampant accusations of religious undertones and overt presentations of the soon arrival of the al-Madhi. Next, this Biblical chauvinist is not one of those that pounds the Bible for the 'Apocalyptic' themes of doom so easily ascribed to the mainstream Christianesque milieu as recently and vulgarly displayed by those who have left the true understanding of the WORD of the LORD for the deception that has plagued this nation for over two hundred years, and the world for millennia. Apocalypse means REVEALING, not doom. Now, why can this forum not escape the issues between the religious undertones and the secular aspirations of peace without religion in our time? A very exquisite musing this is, yet one that cannot be pondered without realizing that history is rife with the struggle of mankind's resistance to the purported interference of the supernatural while chasing the ultimate humanist dream of a life without eternal responsibility and consequences. In reality, there is no escape of being human in an existence that will not relent for any one individual until they are dead. Then the only question is: what of the hereafter; and if Nietzsche was wrong (and there is evidence that he was), then how are we to reconcile the difference of a life lived in the realm of the self versus one of worldly sacrifice? Therein religion has interfered.

Religion does NOT have the answer for what we see today, for religion is a man's (or woman's) attempt to reach unto heaven without the instruction necessary to seek out Almighty God by His instruction. Without the instruction of the unsearchable thoughts of the universe, how does any mere mortal even dare to think they can make any sense of things, such as why does secularism fail to address the unseen things that obviously control the circumstances of mankind? Now, the notation of the end of the world prophecies being as old as humanity is not merely as old as humanity, but is older. I would explain, but that requires a more amenable approach to the Scripture and would be a wasted effort t this time. Let it be sufficient at this time to say that catastrophe events have plagued this existence on varying levels and mankind can only wish they could predict a tornado, or a hurricane, or an earthquake/tsunami to prevent damages and death. And yes, the real bell-ringer of the 'end of the world' is one that many fear, but do not understand. Now the opinions vary as to how the end might come, who's at risk; and most importantly to many; when? True scholars who have searched out the Scriptures know the answer is: they DO NOT know!

So it is correct to say that anyone who claims to know the mind of Christ and can predict the exact time is making a claim that can be dismissed as rubbish. For Christ has said: only the Father knows. But, what cannot be dismissed is that the world is, in fact of matter, in trouble; and no one man (or woman) is going to be able to sort it all out beforehand. So what is required then? Knowledge of a different sort is required; and the thumping of a Holy Bible is not going to help, but reading it beyond the mindset of a deist to get to a place of true understanding will. Having Christ as a personal mediator is essential here. Here is a clue: do not read the Holy Bible to find out about what happens at the time of the end of the world; just get a clue as to what each individual needs to know before one of two things, the end of the age (not the same as the world), or the finish of this mortal life. And it does not hurt for a Goy to pray for the peace of Jerusalem, so long as the understanding of the meaning of it is Scriptural. By the way, Ezekiel does not prophesy the end of the world.


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