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Submitted by Sharunas (Lithuania), Nov 1, 2006 at 15:32

If you're trying to justify the future with the past, at least be correct about it.

I'm from europe, Eastern europe, Lithuania to be Exact.

The US didn't capture the german Enigma 1943 It Was HMS Bulldog of the Royal British Navy HMS Bulldog captured an Intact German U-Boat with an Enigma on it on May 9th ( Hell i'm not from the UK but i'm not adding medals on the wrong General ).

The UK and the USSR had weapon, ammunition and etc. shortage and asked the US for help. But the fact is that your tanks "Shermans" Were badly designed tanks the tank itself was to high, the armor is to thin, and the cannon itself too short after the modifactions made to the tank well it wasn't a bad tank... This tank couldn't be compared to the German Armored Forces. And you only learned that Heavy Tanks were important after the battle of bulge and the US only brought them at the end of the war the M26 Pershing Heavy Tank. Pretty much you couldn've won without allies, if Germany would have consentrated on the Western front you would all be rushed to the sea. So don't overrate your role in WW2. But still without you the outcome would've changed (Most probably ) and without us the outcome would be diffrent too.

But still the past has a lot of reasons why do we dislike or hate the US. WW2 the US only joined the war when they were attacked and forgeting their precious promotion of freedom, peace and so on ( But they were helping European Allies Lending equipment and so on to the UK, Russia ).

The US was attacked by Terrorist's and invaded the Middle East Iraq, Afganistan and so on. And you dragged Europe with you even we most of us said no allies doesn't matter anymore ?. And once again only noticed that Saddam Hussein was oppressing his people after the US was attacked and actually did anything about it.

The Dark Ages ahhh when Theology ( Well actually it was at the end of the Roman Times when Emperor Constantine announced that he is Christian and Officialy claimed the Roman Empire is Christian a good key to power ) prospered and the Religious killed the Intelligent people that's why it's the dark ages and for some other reasons too. But don't forget you were and are Protestants at least a majority of the US say that they are and most of you as you say are Hipocrites ( Not that i'm christian ) and how bout the UK, they were protestants too but hell it was hard times.

So there are a lot of reasons in the past and the present too which ( at least most of them ) are written in the posts.

EU eventually will become a superpower. we're stronger than the US Economically. And the EU relations are going stronger and will Eventually reach a more... erm... Stronger alliance if EU was to unite all of its armed forces they would be Equal or even bigger than your Armed Forces in any case. Europe is near being a superpower. Because some countries have the same feeling about some issues and so on for example the Baltic countries, Finland, Ukraine and other Eastern European countries do dislike Russia (We even asked the EU to ban all of the Communist Symbols in the EU territory ) for their efforts of destroying us.hell im only living my 16th year of freedom. And because we have this feeling we could at some point or another easily create an Alliance or even something stronger.

When i was in the US watching Television the news. It was really strange for me that they only talked about America and nothing else. And i watch a sport channel i see only US sportsmen/women. And when it's another country's turn they simply show a commercial, switch to something else and so on. We even watch the Basketball, Football matches even when our team isn't playing.

Well your way of life is kinda strange. Is it just me or do the US Citizens talk to their own type of people. Europe got passed that a Satanist and a Christian are friends and so on. Have an open mind, Tolerant, or even can Accept one being of other religion, subculture and so on. But well maybe it was the place i was living in. And a lot of overweight people...... ahh well.

And US doesn't really have a history. And you almost killed off what History you could've had ( America's Native People History ). Well it's still history some of us aren't proud of the Middle Ages but we teach that in every school that Inquisitions did happen in Europe. And why do you hate French that much Even Nepoleons declarations, system and so on is in your country and the rest of europe.

And atleast then when the USSR was still a Superpower the cold war to be exact America didn't even see, feel communism and so on but they we're anti-communists. After the Cold war when eastern europe was trying to get it's independence you really didn't care about us but you the US supposodely promotes freedom bah. Only in the 90's the first country that recognized our Independence was Iceland ( Thanks Iceland and the whole of Europe or i would be sitting here and speaking russian ).

And christianity atleast some of the US citizens believe that the EU will be some kind of a Demonic kingdom the pope will be the anticrist the EU will be Antichrist's kingdom bah.... 10 countries will arise and etc... But the fact is EU has more than 10 Countries and US has a lot of blood to pay for too. And i'm suppose to be happy about these things bah... ( Hey ;) We'll be demons woohoo )

And same thing after another with Hollywood movies. ahhh damnit really do hate them.

So in any case. We love our Continent, our countries and so on but not to a part where Propoganda comes in (I think it's called shinonizm i don't remeber the word but it's mostly like WW2 Germany motto "Germany is the best" ).

It was some of the good, and bad things about the US and EU.

In any case. The US, Canada and so on are Still young countries and have a lot to learn from europe, and we have to learn and we did learn something from the US too even though Europe has a very long history and learned from it's past, the world is imperfect, but that thought gives us room for improvement.

Sorry for if someone feels bad or angry about this, But hey it's history and some if it my personal opinion. accept it or make Propoganda.


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