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Submitted by Proud Hindu (India), May 11, 2006 at 07:44

With the invasion of India by Mahmud Ghazni about 1000 A.D., began the one of the worst Muslim invasions into the Indian subcontinent and they lasted for several centuries. The Muslim invasions continued even when the Muslims were ruling India, like the invasion of the Mongols during the reign of the Khiljis or the invasion of the Mughals in the early sixteenth Century when the Lodis were ruling Delhi. The last notable invasion of the Muslims from outside was the invasion of Nadir Shah in 1739, during which he unleashed a great horror on the native population.

During these seven hundred years of Muslim invasions and their conquest and rule of India, the Hindus were the greatest sufferers. It is difficult to estimate the number of Hindus who lost their lives during these campaigns, the number of Hindus who lost their lives in the religious persecution perpetrated on the native population by the Muslim rulers or the number of Hindus who were forcibly converted to Islam.

According to Prof. K.S. Lal, the author of the Growth of Muslim population in India, the Hindu population decreased by 80 million between 1000 AD, the year Mahmud Ghazni invaded India and 1525 AD, a year before the battle of Panipat.

One can safely add another 20 million Hindus to this list to account for the number that were killed during the Mughal rule or the rule of the Muslim rulers in the Deccan plateau. By all known accounts of world history, as pointed out by Koenard Elst in his book the Negationism in India, destruction of about 100 million hindus is perhaps the biggest holocaust in the whole world history.

Europe never forgot or forgave the atrocities of the Nazi rule under Hitler. We hardly come across any positive reference to either Hitler or his army in the present day text books on European History. No one talks there of the qualities of Hitler as a great commander or an inspiring leader of German people whom he could mould and influence with his hypnotic speeches. No films are made showing Hitler as a romantic hero singing songs and his mistress as a heroine shedding copious tears over her lover! The European consciousness is filled with the evil deeds perpetrated by his regime, thanks to the untiring work of their politicians, journalists, historians and film producers, so much so that the very thought of seeing any virtue in either Hitler or Nazis is abhorrent to the consciousness of the present day Europeans. Europe and America produced at least a few thousand films highlighting the human misery caused by Hitler and his army. The films expose the horrors of Nazi regime and reinforce the beliefs and attitude of the present day generation towards the evils of the Nazi dictatorship.

In contrast look at the Muslims. There is hardly any regret among the Muslims of today for the actions of their ancestors in the past or at present, and a great majority of muhammedans think that they did the right thing by persecuting Hindus and they continue to do so today. All their heroes are rapists, murderers and looters from their leader mulammed to osama bin laden.

It is not difficult to imagine the sufferings of people during such battles as the battle of Tallikota when Hampi, the capital of Vijayanagara empire was systematically destroyed for weeks by the muslim Bahamain sultans. Nadir Shah made a mountain of the skulls of the Hindus he killed in Delhi alone. Babur raised towers of Hindu skulls at Khanua when he defeated Rana Sanga in 1527 and later he repeated the same horrors after capturing the fort of Chanderi. Akbar who was supposed to be one of the few tolerant muslim rulers, ordered a general massacre of 30000 Rajputs after he captured Chithor in 1568. The Bahamani Sultans had an annual agenda of killing a minimum of 100000 Hindus every year. The history of medieval India is full of such instances.

Harrak, if you are unaware with the history of the Indian subcontinent you should study it. I have put some material for you below. We hindus have not appointed Salman Rushdie or American intellectuals to rewrite history for us. The history repeats itself in the actions of our arch eneny the muslim Pakistan who is sponsoring killing of Hindus inside india even today. Todays hindus are strong and determined enough to make any muslim who tries to attack her bite the dust. Pakistan tried four times and failed.

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Short course on History for HARRAK

Muhammad bin Qasim

Several reasons existed for the desire of the rising Islamic Empire to gain a foothold in Makran and Sind ranging from the participation of armies from sindh fighting alongside the Persians in battles such as Nehawand, ‘Salasal’, Qadisia and Makran, to pirate raids on Arab shipping to the granting of refuge to rebel chiefs.

Islam in India existed in communities along the Arab trade routes in Sindh, Ceylon and Southern India. In 711, the Umayyad Caliph in Damascus sent an expedition to Baluchistan (an arid region on the Iranian Plateau in Southwest Asia, presently split between Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan) and Sindh (presently a province of Pakistan bordering on Baluchistan, Punjab, and Rajasthan, India). The nature of the expedition was punitive, and in response to raids carried out by pirates on Arab shipping, operating around Daibul. The allegation was made that The King of Sindh, Raja Dahir was the patron of these pirates. The expedition was led by a 20-year-old Syrian chieftain named Muhammad bin Qasim (for whom Karachi's second port is named). The expedition went as far North as Multan, then called the "City of Gold," that contained the extremely large Hindu temple Sun Mandir housing over six thousand people. Bin Qasim invaded the sub-continent at the orders of Al-Hajjaj bin Yousef, the governor of Iraq. Qasim's armies defeated Raja Dahir at what is now Hyderabad in Sindh in 712. He then proceeded to subdue the lands from Karachi to Multan with a small force of only six thousand Syrian tribesmen, therby establishing the dominion of the Umayyad Caliphate from Lisbon in Portugal to the Indus Valley. Qasim was later recalled to Baghdad, and Muslim rule in South Asia shrank to Sindh and southern Punjab.

In many regions North of Multan, several non-Muslim groups (largely Buddhists and Hindus, as well as followers of folk religions further North) remained numerous. From this period through the year 1000, the conquered area was divided into two parts: the northern region comprising the Punjab remained under the control of Hindu rajas, while the Southern area came under Muslim control and comprised Baluchistan, Sindh, and Multan.

Qasim demolished many temples, shattered "idolatorous" artwork and killing many people in his battles. After the violence, he attempted to establish law and order in the newly-conquered territory through the imposition of Islamic Shariah laws. He also sought control through systematic persecution of Hindus. He wrote an account of such experiences:

O my cousin; I received your life inspiring letter. I was much pleased and overjoyed when it reached me. The events were recounted in an excellent and beautiful style, and I learnt that the ways and rules you follow are conformable to the Law. Except that you give protection to all, great and small alike, and make no difference between enemy and friend. God says, 'Give no quarter to Infidels, but cut their throats." "Then know that this is the command of the great God. You should not be too ready to grant protection, because it will prolong your work. After this, give no quarter to any enemy except to those who are of rank. This is a worthy resolve, and want of dignity will not be imputed to you. Peace be with you. [1]
Native populations of conquered territories under Qasim underwent a great deal of hardship and struggle for their refusal to convert to Islam. Taxes known as Jizya were imposed upon non-Muslims replacing other taxes under the dhimmi status of non-Muslim subjects to Islamic rulers. Substantial religious conversions are also reported to have occurred in this period. While all sources agree to widespread bloodshed during the period of the conquests, traditional historical narrative indicates a period of tolerance in the aftermath, however the nature of these conversion and all future conversions are currently hotly debated by proponents of theory of conversion by the sword and those against it and counter allegations are levelled against the hindu Raja Dahir for atrocities against the predominant local buddhist and jat populace and subsequent relief which paint Qasim as a liberator.


Mahmud of Ghazni

Ghazni was a city-state founded in 962 founded Alptigin, once a slave then a Governor of Khorasan eventually divested of power in political intrigues. Under his son-in-law Subuktigin, Ghazni found itself in conflict with the Shahi Raja Jayapala. When Subuktigin died and his son Mahmud ascended the throne in 998, Mahmud was engaged in the North with the Qarakhanid Empire when the Shahi Raja renewed hostilities.

In the early 11th century Mahmud of Ghazni launched 17 expeditions into India. In 1001, Sultan Mahmud Ghaznavi defeated King Jeebal of Kabulistan and marched further into Peshawar and in 1005 made it the center for his forces. From this strategic location Mahmud was able to capture the Punjab in 1007. In 1010, Mahmud captured what is today the Ghowr Province (Ghor) and by 1011 had annexed Baluchistan. Tanseer fell in 1014, Kashmir was captured in 1015, and Qanouch fell in 1017. After defeating Tarnochalpal in 1021, Mahmud formally annexed Punjab. Mahmud of Ghazni sacked Multan twice, destroying the Surya Mandir (Sun Temple). Surya Mandir also known as Somnath, was also allegedly serving the purpose of a war-room of the Rajput Confederacy opposing Mahmud in addition to being a repository of immense wealth.

The Ghaznavid Jihads were directed onto richness of the loot of wealthy temples and monastaries. By 1027, Mahmud had captured most of Northern India and obtained formal recognition of Ghazni's sovreignity from the Abbasid Khalifah, al-Qadir Billah.

Mahmud had already had relationships with the leadership in Balkh through marriage, and its local emir, Abu Nasr Mohammad, offered his services to the sultan and his daughter to Mahmud's son, Muhammad. After Nasr’s death Mahmud brought Balkh under his leadership. This alliance greatly helped him during his expeditions into Northern India.

Ghaznavid rule in North India lasted over 175 years, from 1010 to 1187. It was during this period that Lahore assumed considerable importance as the eastern-most bastion of Muslim power and an outpost for further advance toward the riches of the east. Apart from being the second capital, and later the only capital, of the Ghaznavid kingdom, Lahore had great military and strategic significance: whoever controlled it could look forward to sweeping the whole of East Punjab to Panipat and Delhi.

By the end of his reign, Mahmud's empire extended from Kurdistan in the west to Samarkand in the Northeast, and from the Caspian Sea to the Yamuna. Although his raids carried his forces across Northern and Western India, only Punjab came under his permanent rule; Kashmir, the Doab, Rajasthan, and Gujarat remained under the control of the local Rajput dynasties. The wealth brought back to Ghazni was enormous. Contemporary historians (e.g. Abolfazl Beyhaghi and Ferdowsi) give glowing descriptions of the magnificence of the capital and the conqueror's munificent support of literature.

In 1030, Mahmud fell gravely ill and died at age 59. He had been a gifted military commander and Islam was the enforced religion of his kingdom and the Perso-Afghan dialect Dari was made the official language.

Like other muslim rulers, Mahmud left behind a bitter legacy of genocide and persecution of all who refused forced-conversion to Islam. As with the Turkic invaders of three centuries ago, Mahmud's armies looted and desecrated temples in Varanasi, Mathura, Ujjain, Maheshwar, Jwalamukhi, and Dwarka. There is some evidence from writings of Al-Biruni, Sogidan, Uighur and Manichean texts that the Buddhists, Hindus and Jains were accepted as People of the Book and references to Buddha as Burxan or a prophet can be found. After much initial destruction, genocide and pillage some Buddhists, Jains and Hindus were grudgingly given protected subject status as dhimmis, although they were still subject to the humiliating and persecuting Jizya tax.


Muhammed Ghuri

Muhammad Ghori was a Turkic-Afghan conqueror from the region of Ghor in Afghanistan. Before 1160, the Ghaznavid Empire covered an area running from central Afghanistan east to the Punjab, with capitals at Ghazni on the banks of Ghazni river in present-day Afghanistan, and at Lahore in present-day Pakistan. In 1160, the Ghorids conquered Ghazni from the Ghaznevids, and in 1173 Muhammad was made governor of Ghazni. He raided eastwards into the remaining Ghaznevid territory, and invaded Gujarat in the 1180s but was rebuffed by Gujarat's Solanki rulers. In 1186 and 1187 he conquered Lahore, ending the Ghaznevid empire and bringing the last of Ghaznevid territory under his control, and seemed to be the first Muslim ruler seriously interested in expanding his domain in the sub-continent, and like his predecessor Mahmud initially started off against the Ismaili Shiite kingdom that had regained independence during the Nizari conflicts, and then onto booty and power.

In 1191, he invaded the territory of Prithviraj III of Ajmer, who ruled much of present-day Rajasthan and Haryana, but was defeated at Tarain by Govinda-Raja of Delhi, Prithviraj's vassal. The following year, Muhammad assembled 120,000 horsemen and once again invaded the Kingdom of Ajmer. Muhammad's army met Prithviraj's army again at Tarain, and this time Muhammad won; Govinda-Raja was slain, Prithviraj captured and Muhammad advanced onto Delhi. Within a year, Muhammad controlled Northern Rajasthan and Northern Ganges-Yamuna Doab. After these victories in India, and Muhammad's establishment of a capital in Delhi, Multan was also incorporated into his empire. Muhammad then returned east to Ghazni to deal with the threat on his eastern frontiers from the Turks and Mongols, whiles his armies continued to advance through Northern India, raiding as far east as Bengal.

Muhammad returned to Lahore after 1200 to deal with a revolt of the Ghakkar tribe in the Punjab. He suppressed the revolt, but was killed during a Ghakkar raid on his camp on the Jhelum River in 1206. Upon his death his most capable general, Qutb-ud-din Aybak, took control of Muhammad's Indian conquests and declared himself the first Sultan of Delhi.


The Delhi Sultanate

Muhammad's successors established the first dynasty of the Delhi Sultanate, while the Mamluk Dynasty in 1211 (however, the Delhi Sultanate is traditionally held to have been founded in 1206) seized the reins of the empire. Mamluk means "slave" and referred to the Turkic slave soldiers who became rulers. The territory under control of the Muslim rulers in Delhi expanded rapidly. By mid-century, Bengal and much of central India was under the Delhi Sultanate. Several Turko-Afghan dynasties ruled from Delhi: the Mamluk (1211–1290), the Khalji (1290–1320), the Tughlaq (1320–1413), the Sayyid (1414–51), and the Lodhi (1451–1526). Muslim Kings extended their domains into Southern India, Kingdom of Vijayanagar resisted until falling to the Deccan Sultanate in 1565. Although some kingdoms remained independent of Delhi in the Deccan and in Gujarat, Malwa (central India), and Bengal, almost all of the area in present-day Pakistan came under the rule of Delhi.

The Sultans of Delhi enjoyed cordial, if superficial, relations with Muslim rulers in the Near East but owed them no allegiance. They based their laws on the Quran and the sharia and permitted non-Muslim subjects to practice their religion only if they paid the jizya (head tax). They ruled from urban centers, while military camps and trading posts provided the nuclei for towns that sprang up in the countryside.

Perhaps the greatest contribution of the Sultanate was its temporary success in insulating the subcontinent from the potential devastation of the Mongol invasion from Central Asia in the 13th century, which nonetheless led to the capture of Afghanistan and western Pakistan by the Mongols (see the Ilkhanate Dynasty). The Sultanate ushered in a period of Indian cultural renaissance, The resulting "Indo-Muslim" fusion left lasting monuments in architecture, music, literature, and religion. In addition it is surmised that the language of Urdu (literally meaning "horde" or "camp" in various Turkic dialects) was born during the Dehli Sultanate period as a result of the mingling of Sanskritic Hindi and the Persian, Turkish, Arabic favored by the Muslim invaders of India.

The Sultanate suffered from the sacking of Delhi in 1398 by Timur (Tamerlane) but revived briefly under the Lodhis before it was conquered by the Mughals in 1526, who ruled from the sixteenth to the eighteenth centuries.


Alauddin Khilji

Other invasions from Central Asia followed his on a regular basis, such as that of Muhammad Khilji, who burned Nalanda, a major Buddhist library. The rulers of these territories became known as the Mughals and their empire as the Mughal Empire.

The Khilji Dynasty is not affiliated politically with the Mughal Dynasty, which started in the 1500s under Babur.


The Mughal Empire
India in the 16th century presented a fragmented picture of rulers, both Muslim and Hindu, who lacked concern for their subjects and failed to create a common body of laws or institutions. Outside developments also played a role in shaping events. The circumnavigation of Africa by the Portuguese explorer Vasco da Gama in 1498 allowed Europeans to challenge Arab control of the trading routes between Europe and Asia. In Central Asia and Afghanistan, shifts in power pushed Babur of Ferghana (in present-day Uzbekistan) southward, first to Kabul and then to India. The dynasty he founded endured for more than three centuries.


Babur

Main article: Babur
Claiming descent from both Genghis Khan and Timur, Babur combined strength and courage with a love of beauty, and military ability with cultivation. He concentrated on gaining control of Northwestern India, doing so in 1526 by defeating the last Lodhi Sultan at the First battle of Panipat, a town north of Delhi. Babur then turned to the tasks of persuading his Central Asian followers to stay on in India and of overcoming other contenders for power, mainly the Rajputs and the Afghans. He succeeded in both tasks but died shortly thereafter in 1530. The Mughal Empire was one of the largest centralized states in premodern history and was the precursor to the British Indian Empire.

Babur was followed by his great-grandson, Shah Jahan (r. 1628–58), builder of the Taj Mahal and other magnificent buildings. Two other towering figures of the Mughal era were Akbar (r. 1556–1605) and Aurangzeb (r. 1658–1707). Both rulers expanded the empire greatly and were able administrators. However, Akbar was known for his religious tolerance and administrative genius while Aurangzeb was a pious Muslim and fierce advocate of more orthodox Islam.


Aurangzeb

While some rulers were zealous in their spread of Islam, others were relatively liberal. Moghul emperor Akbar was relatively liberal and established a new religion, Din E Elahi, which included beliefs from different religions. He abolished the jizya for some time. In contrast, his great-grandson Aurangazeb was more zealous and, generally, during his term non-Muslims suffered. He reimposed the jizya, and it is historically recorded that under his rule a large number of natives were put to death.

In the century-and-a-half that followed the death of Aurangzeb, effective Muslim control weakened. Succession to imperial and even provincial power, which had often become hereditary, was subject to intrigue and force. The mansabdari system gave way to the zamindari system, in which high-ranking officials took on the appearance of hereditary landed aristocracy with powers of collecting rents. As Delhi's control waned, other contenders for power emerged and clashed, thus preparing the way for the eventual British takeover.


Ahmad Shah Abdali


Decay of the Mughal power saw a series of invasions by the Persian adventurer, Nadir Shah, but no occupation per se. Following his death (something his Royal Guardsman Abdali might have contributed to), Ahmed Shah Abdali - a Pathan - decided to try his luck closer to home. The fertile Punjab was the nearest and easiest prey. A long and brutal occupation of the Punjab - reviled by Sikhs, Hindus and Punjabi Muslims - lasted till the rise of the Sikh Empire.


Nalanda

In 1193, the Nalanda University complex was destroyed by Turkish Muslim invaders under Bakhtiyar Khalji; this event is seen as the final milestone in the decline and near extinction of Buddhism in India. He also burned Nalanda's a major Buddhist library and Vikramshila University, as well as numerous Bhuddhist monasteries in India. When the Tibetan translator, Chag Lotsawa Dharmasvamin (Chag Lo-tsa-ba, 1197 - 1264), visited northern India in 1235, Nalanda was damaged, looted, and largely deserted, but still standing and functioning with seventy students. Mahabodhi, Sompura, Vajrasan and other important monastaries were luckily untouched. The Ghuri ravages only afflicted those monastaries that lay in the direct of their advance.

By the end of the 12th century, following the Islamic conquest of the Buddhist stronghold in Bihar, Buddhism declined as survivors retreated to Nepal, Sikkim and Tibet or escaped to the South of the sub-continent. Hinduism and Jainism survived because they did not have large centers of worship and devotion based around heavily fortified monastaries. Furthermore, many buddhist also converted for social mobility from their status as lower castes in the hindu view. Under the tutelage of various scholars fleeing the ravages of the Mongols, and with a historically extensive familiarity with buddhists in Central Asia many impoverished peasants in East Bengal converted.


Vijayanagara

The city flourished between the 14th century and 16th century, during the height of the Vijayanagar Empire. During this time, it was often in conflict with the moslem kingdoms which rose in the Northern Deccan, and which are often collectively termed the Deccan Sultanates. In 1565, the empire's armies suffered a massive and catastrophic defeat at by an alliance of the Sultanates, and the capital was taken. The victorious armies then razed, depopulated the hindu population (genocide) and destroyed the city over several months. The empire continued in slow decline, but the original capital was not reoccupied or rebuilt.


Somnath

The first temple of Somnath is said to have existed before the beginning of the Christian era. The second temple, built by the Maitraka kings of Vallabhi in Gujarat, replaced the first one on the same site around 649. In 725 Junayad, the Arab governor of Sind, sent his armies to destroy the second temple. The Pratihara king Nagabhata II constructed the third temple in 815, a large structure of red sandstone. Mahmud of Ghazni attacked this temple in 1026, looted its gems and precious stones, massacred the worshippers and burned it. It was then that the famous Shivalinga of the temple was entirely destroyed. The fourth temple was built by the Paramara King Bhoj of Malwa and the Solanki king Bhima of Gujarat (Anhilwara) between 1026 and 1042. The temple was razed in 1297 when the Sultanate of Delhi conquered Gujarat, and again in 1394. Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb destroyed the temple again in 1706.


Historical Views

French historian Alain Danielou wrote in his book Histoire de l'Inde:

From the moment when the Muslims arrive in India, the history of India does not have any more great interest. It is long and monotonous series of murder, massacres, spoilations, destruction.
French Historian Gustave Le Bon wrote in his book Les Civilisations de L'Inde:

There does not exist a history of ancient India. Their books contain no historical data whatever, except for a few religious books in which historical information is buried under a heap of parables and folk-lore, and their buildings and other monuments also do nothing to fill the void for the oldest among them do not go beyond the third century B.C. To discover facts about India of the ancient times is as difficult a task as the discovery of the island of Atlantis, which, according to Plato, was destroyed due to the changes of the earth... The historical phase of India began with the Muslim invasion. Muslims were India's first historians and were not critical of the muslim invasions.So many of the atrocities against the local hindu population was largely unrecorded


Historian Will Durant wrote his book The Story of Civilization:

The Mohammadan conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precarious thing, whose delicate complex of order and liberty, culture and peace may at any time be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within.
Hindu sage Padmanabha described in his KanhaDade Prabandha in 1456 AD the story of the Islamic invasion of Gujarat of 1298 AD:

The conquering army burnt villages, devastated the land, plundered people’s wealth, took Brahmins ( priestly hindu class ) and children and women of all classes captive, flogged with thongs of raw hide, carried a moving prison with it, and converted the prisoners into obsequious slaves.
Tarikh-i-Yamini of Utbi the sultan's secretary wrote in the 11th century:The blood of the infidels flowed so copiously at Thanesar that the stream was discoloured, notwithstanding its purity, and people were unable to drink it. The Sultan returned with plunder which is impossible to count.

Milind Gadge


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to Taj [281 words]RashidApr 12, 2006 22:1642097
Good reply, Rashid... [398 words]WilliamApr 13, 2006 19:3342097
to william [4647 words]tariqApr 15, 2006 07:1042097
lion [87 words]ahmad zafireApr 15, 2006 23:2542097
To Richard [373 words]Taj AshaheedApr 16, 2006 03:0342097
to Rashid [289 words]Taj AshaheedApr 16, 2006 03:2242097
Thanks, William [83 words]RashidApr 16, 2006 14:4642097
Why East and West can not equate logic [261 words]GeorgeJan 7, 2009 12:2342097
wow !!.. [71 words]vigneshFeb 21, 2013 12:2042097
Islamic law -- an oxymoron [106 words]GregApr 1, 2006 19:5042085
to Greg [98 words]Taj AshaheedApr 3, 2006 18:1042085
To Taj Ashaheed [144 words]VijayApr 4, 2006 11:4342085
to Vijay [110 words]Taj AshaheedApr 6, 2006 04:3142085
Rushdie's plight [205 words]VijayApr 7, 2006 06:4642085
re Rushdie [72 words]Taj AshaheedApr 8, 2006 02:2742085
To Ahmad Z, Bader S, Harrak and Mu'een Ud Deen [113 words]InfidelMar 28, 2006 02:0841578
Koran Quotes Response [223 words]John R.Mar 28, 2006 09:0441578
Answers for infidel [264 words]HarrakMar 28, 2006 14:1741578
Koran is different [262 words]rickMar 28, 2006 15:5841578
re muslim turned christian [215 words]ahmad zafireMar 28, 2006 16:5241578
Zafire ... [187 words]Richard Lion heartMar 29, 2006 14:0141578
lion heart [121 words]ahmad zafireMar 29, 2006 22:3341578
To harrak/ you didn't answer my question [83 words]LisaMar 27, 2006 17:4041548
I have no problem answering you a third time!! [193 words]HarrakMar 28, 2006 11:1741548
Harrak, you didn't not answer the second part of my question [30 words]LisaMar 28, 2006 16:2041548
second part of the question comes from you Lisa! [80 words]HarrakMar 28, 2006 17:5341548
Lisa, you're asking for it ! [8 words]RashidMar 28, 2006 20:5141548
Harrak- please answer [167 words]LisaMar 28, 2006 22:4741548
Harrak The Man of Knowledge [82 words]InfidelMar 29, 2006 00:1041548
Jesus is the hand that feeds you Harrak [332 words]Richard Lion heartMar 29, 2006 13:5041548
to richard [46 words]tariqMar 30, 2006 07:3941548
To Tariq [19 words]Richard DomondMar 30, 2006 18:2341548
CHALLENGE 6 A: Answers for Richard the Lion and Lisa --enjoy [885 words]HARRAKMar 30, 2006 19:5541548
Don't bite the hand that feeds you Harrak [355 words]Richard Lion heartMar 31, 2006 17:1741548
Like I said Lisa, you asked for it ! [126 words]RashidMar 31, 2006 17:2741548
Tariq! Jesus was a man! See reform Christianity's view! [79 words]HARRAKMar 31, 2006 18:2541548
Good Harrak, continue please [177 words]LisaMar 31, 2006 20:5641548
to Richard Domond [104 words]tariqApr 1, 2006 03:4441548
Rashid re Harrak [127 words]LisaApr 1, 2006 15:4841548
To tariq: Richard D. is right [343 words]Richard Lion heartApr 3, 2006 00:0841548
to richard [727 words]tariqApr 5, 2006 08:4441548
Very good analysis tariq. Your first step to becoming a Christian [205 words]Richard Lion heartApr 6, 2006 18:4141548
to richard: write a proper reply [231 words]tariqApr 8, 2006 06:5741548
What is Trinity tariq? [303 words]Richard Lion heartApr 9, 2006 15:5941548
Still confused on trinity [19 words]ConradApr 10, 2006 13:4541548
well done harrak [30 words]UnbiasedApr 10, 2006 14:1541548
To Richard re unbiased, Harrak, Tariq on trinity [21 words]LisaApr 14, 2006 23:2741548
Islamic Subjugation [190 words]RajooMar 27, 2006 08:4741483
Hatred of Jews is the Root of all Evil [134 words]Truthie FranceMar 26, 2006 07:1241392
Middle East Policy [239 words]WahabiMar 25, 2006 22:0541375
To: Wahabi [43 words]BlackspeareMar 26, 2006 20:2241375
Not good enough [223 words]PatMar 26, 2006 20:2541375
Muslims' "sacred land" [17 words]Abu NudnikMar 26, 2006 23:4941375
Middle East Policy Response [454 words]John R.Mar 27, 2006 04:2041375
Re: Not good enough [360 words]Bader SMar 27, 2006 17:0541375
Harrak denounces speakers on his behalf! Papaya needed urgently.. [104 words]HARRAKMar 27, 2006 20:3741375
to Pat [262 words]Taj AshaheedMar 28, 2006 02:0041375
Harrak [46 words]LisaMar 25, 2006 19:2741373
Reply for Lisa on Muhammad [67 words]HarrakMar 27, 2006 09:2141373
THE DECLINE OF RELIGION [218 words]Tim BushMar 25, 2006 10:5741344
To Tim Bush [207 words]LisaMar 25, 2006 19:1441344
To Tim Bush [122 words]VijayMar 26, 2006 06:0341344
300 years [165 words]harryMar 26, 2006 10:0841344
very good point Bush! [150 words]HARRAKMar 26, 2006 12:2941344
THE DECLINE OF RELIGION [248 words]Tim BushMar 26, 2006 22:3341344
To: Harry [55 words]BlackspeareMar 26, 2006 23:3541344
To Tim Bush [127 words]LisaMar 27, 2006 17:3541344
Madlene Albright on Bush [73 words]HarrakMar 25, 2006 09:2741336
Why would followers of a "PROUD RELIGION" feel so insecure about their faith? [727 words]Jay ChahinMar 25, 2006 04:0441323
If you keep repeating a lie often enough, it might pass for the truth [295 words]Richard Lion heartMar 25, 2006 17:0941305
..and if you keep repeating often enough a truth, it may pass for a lie [22 words]HarrakMar 26, 2006 10:2241305
Ignorance Rules Islamist World - Taqiyya Venerated [568 words]Mark BarattoMar 26, 2006 13:2841305
911 and after [745 words]YovenMar 24, 2006 15:3141284
learn the truth.... [150 words]ahmad zafireMar 25, 2006 00:0841284
Just a minor aside here........ [61 words]SanMar 23, 2006 21:5441229
ignorance and idealism [459 words]SiddaMar 24, 2006 17:5741229
Yes, I also..... [79 words]SanMar 25, 2006 16:2141229
About doubts... [419 words]J.S.Mar 23, 2006 17:1341205
The Political Will of Western Civilization [419 words]van der LeyMar 23, 2006 16:3641199
Re: The Political Will of Western Civilization [24 words]Bader SMar 25, 2006 07:0641199
Bader - You're absolutely right [16 words]PatMar 26, 2006 09:5041199
Invading Barbarians [148 words]van der LeyMar 26, 2006 13:1041199
Pat you are right [22 words]Bader SMar 27, 2006 14:3041199
Zarqawi, The Barbarian - and the civil war [315 words]van der LeyMar 27, 2006 17:1041199
More on Barbarism [63 words]van der LeyMar 28, 2006 11:2941199
Naqvi, a wake up shot from Harrak [87 words]HARRAKMar 23, 2006 16:1641193
To HARRAK: The Author is Will Durant, Book is Story of Civilization [303 words]NaqviMar 24, 2006 15:5741193
Your book and who killed Millions [201 words]HARRAKMar 25, 2006 13:4741193
HARRAK : Your list of islamist mass murderers is incomplete [564 words]NaqviMar 27, 2006 13:0741193
and now you can be burned by your list [123 words]HARRAKMar 27, 2006 20:2741193
Bravo - Naqvi [72 words]JaladhiMar 28, 2006 10:1741193
33to HARRAK - Muslim invaders killed Hindus in millions [4189 words]Proud HinduMay 11, 2006 07:4441193
The wretched way of the world today [305 words]AbhiJun 11, 2007 10:4941193
the end game [304 words]brad parsonAug 21, 2007 09:3141193
Salute yaar [40 words]KrupaOct 15, 2008 15:4841193
response to your remark [16 words]budda buttSep 22, 2009 22:0041193
barbarous muslim rulers and attackers of hindustan [108 words]raj kumarNov 24, 2009 03:2241193
muslim invasions of india [27 words]brad parsonJun 1, 2010 09:0741193
MUSLIM INVASION [421 words]Dr RIFAIMay 12, 2012 05:1741193
Muslimz kill Hindus in millions. [120 words]Samardjietpresad GaneshJun 4, 2012 12:4041193
1The confused muslims [75 words]masaJun 5, 2012 23:2041193
Dark age of Hinduism [88 words]Dr Skand S GuptJul 17, 2012 09:5141193
good [30 words]sunilDec 18, 2012 10:3241193
Have proper Statistics [156 words]Hindu WarriorFeb 6, 2013 11:1741193
Islam is a young religion [94 words]AshokaSep 16, 2013 22:5541193
Let's Have Some Realism Here! [365 words]BlackspeareMar 22, 2006 19:5441114
Blackspeare [284 words]DaisyMar 23, 2006 12:5041114
blackspear [151 words]Elpi NipniMar 23, 2006 21:1341114
Reply for the Daisy and and Elpi Nipni Regarding Blackspeare [47 words]HarrakMar 24, 2006 19:4041114
Daisy [173 words]BlackspeareMar 24, 2006 22:5041114
Blackspeare - "A Force" [482 words]PatMar 25, 2006 09:4041114
Elpi Nipni [148 words]Bader SMar 25, 2006 09:5041114
TO: Pat [227 words]BlackspeareMar 26, 2006 13:2641114
Blackspeare [230 words]DaisyMar 26, 2006 13:3141114
Sorry, Blackspeare [217 words]PatMar 26, 2006 21:3541114
To: Daisy [185 words]BlackspeareMar 26, 2006 23:1741114
THIS JUST IN: T-Minus 0, And Counting... [260 words]orange yonasonMar 22, 2006 19:4941112
Proud People Twisted by Evil Ideology of Totalitarian Islamism [87 words]SinghaMar 22, 2006 16:4741093
America's last last 20 and DR Johansen Jorgen [181 words]HARRAKMar 22, 2006 16:1241089
Harrak and the study of American decline [445 words]Richard Lion heartMar 23, 2006 12:5241089
Should be fun [42 words]PatMar 23, 2006 13:2541089
A must read form J. R. Nyquist [25 words]van der LeyMar 22, 2006 13:0941073
Diplomatic Efforts?! [33 words]DaisyMar 22, 2006 12:2241068
We've seen the results [103 words]PatMar 23, 2006 13:3441068
your answer about US/ Iran war scenario [188 words]HARRAKMar 24, 2006 14:2541068
More wishful thinking and mediocre analysis from Harrak [261 words]Richard Lion heartMar 24, 2006 15:4741068
Okay Harrak, here you go. [1132 words]PatMar 24, 2006 17:2241068
Richard the dreamer [116 words]HarrakMar 25, 2006 15:0741068
How would you address the NSS report if you had to author it? [175 words]George HaasMar 22, 2006 11:4641063
George Haas, I Partially Agree [629 words]orange yonasonMar 22, 2006 22:3241063
Bush's leadership [100 words]KafkaMar 22, 2006 11:4241062
to Kafka [114 words]SiddaMar 22, 2006 17:5741062
Sidda, we have the answer for you [10 words]HARRAKMar 22, 2006 21:5541062
To Sidda and Kafka [179 words]Richard Lion heartMar 23, 2006 11:5341062
question for my friend Kafta [186 words]HarrakMar 23, 2006 19:5541062
For Once I agree [113 words]Jack LassMar 22, 2006 11:3341061
Bush Maintains His Resolve and Pre-emptive Strike Strategy [353 words]William Robert JackMar 22, 2006 07:4141037
Evaluation [1136 words]John RMar 22, 2006 01:2141014
Incomparable Clarity And Resolve Vs. Comparable Doubts [279 words]orange yonasonMar 22, 2006 01:1441013
Schizophrenia , not ying and yang [212 words]Batya daganMar 21, 2006 23:0441005
Reality check [100 words]johnMar 23, 2006 04:1941005
The Domino theory [301 words]van der LeyMar 21, 2006 19:2040981
Failure of Administration of understanding Muslims [603 words]howardMar 21, 2006 19:0940979
To Howard, You are right but secular muslims are different from west hating practising muslims. [264 words]Liakat S.Mar 22, 2006 01:3840979
That British poet was... [38 words]Kevin MMar 22, 2006 09:3240979
my dear Howard [1244 words]BaneeshkhanMar 22, 2006 10:5540979
Liakat S. there is no such creature called a secular Muslim [129 words]faqiMar 22, 2006 17:0140979
Mr Khan, You need to read your scriptures and history [375 words]Dr. Aziz SiddiquiMar 22, 2006 19:1740979
Dr. Aziz Siddiqui the swing and twist specialist [88 words]HARRAKMar 22, 2006 22:0640979
What are you reading from Qur-an [440 words]BaneeshkhanMar 23, 2006 08:1040979
To Banneshkhan,Muslim invaders killed 80 million hindus in 1000 years [343 words]NaqviMar 23, 2006 13:3640979
Just a few questions, Baneeshkhan [149 words]PatMar 23, 2006 13:5540979
1To Harrak, Muslims have discredited and killed each other since beginning [634 words]Dr Aziz SiddiquiMar 23, 2006 16:3140979
Nobody is innocent besides Muslims - Pat!! [64 words]JaladhiMar 23, 2006 16:5540979
1Harrak, your denial of hadiths makes no sense [237 words]A.A.Mar 23, 2006 17:0140979
Response to Baneeshkhan, What kind of forgiveness Mohammed gave to Meccans by demanding "Convert or die"(9.5) [701 words]S. SirhanMar 23, 2006 18:4540979
Banneshkhan: Mohammed broke 10 year peace treaty with Meccans and commited sneak attack intwo years [238 words]John M.Mar 24, 2006 12:0240979
To Baeeshkhan: Meccan victory was not bloodless as apologists claim [337 words]Mamdouh M.Mar 24, 2006 12:3040979
1To Dr Aziz Siddiqui [71 words]VijayApr 2, 2006 01:4340979
muhammed peace be upon him the most excellent human ever [67 words]andoJan 23, 2010 08:3940979
All in All [158 words]renchMar 21, 2006 17:4240974
NSS [226 words]Donald W. BalesMar 21, 2006 17:2040971
Down The Road A Piece [227 words]orange yonasonMar 22, 2006 02:1740971
At least there is hope that China will moderate its views. [111 words]JasonMar 23, 2006 10:5440971
White House Nonchalance: Wait to see the hole cards [153 words]Merry WhitneyMar 21, 2006 17:0940969
Well Said [9 words]William Robert JackMar 22, 2006 07:2040969
GWB not as stupid as his critics like to think [195 words]JasonMar 23, 2006 10:4340969
The Myth of "good Islam". - Truth vs. reallity. [1009 words]TomasMar 21, 2006 16:0840958
Just Who (or what) Do You Think You Are? [339 words]orange yonasonMar 22, 2006 03:5840958
TOMAS [130 words]AHMAD ZAFIREMar 22, 2006 09:4340958
Tomas [378 words]DaisyMar 22, 2006 20:0740958
Daisy and Orange Yonason [1739 words]TomasMar 23, 2006 15:5040958
TOMAS [842 words]DaisyMar 24, 2006 10:4540958
Dear Thomas [243 words]orange yonasonMar 26, 2006 03:3340958
Daisy - my regards to your husband [1918 words]TomasMar 26, 2006 15:2240958
The failure to promote democracy and the western need for dictatorship (Stupidism Manifesto) [419 words]HARRAKMar 21, 2006 15:3440955
You have GOT to be kidding. [168 words]PatMar 22, 2006 08:1540955
Reply for Pat [134 words]HARRAKMar 22, 2006 21:5140955
Harrak, we agree at last. [658 words]PatMar 23, 2006 17:1140955
Oh, George! [207 words]orange yonasonMar 21, 2006 14:1240944
Islamism and Nukes [171 words]dweilMar 21, 2006 13:5340939
Response to dweil [73 words]Carl SametMar 21, 2006 14:4640939
The nuclear club has dues [265 words]PatMar 21, 2006 16:3740939
No nukes for Iran [198 words]Richard Lion heartMar 22, 2006 14:0140939
White House Nonchalance [764 words]kim segarMar 21, 2006 12:4940935
Radical Islam [58 words]Alyn StarkmanMar 21, 2006 12:4740934
The debilitating and dark side of political correctness [115 words]David W. LincolnMar 21, 2006 12:3540933
The wealthy terrorist [233 words]PigfootMar 22, 2006 13:5940933
Fine sentiment however political correctness rules the land [168 words]Reuben HorneMar 31, 2006 17:4440933
Don't worry. be happy! [363 words]JohnMar 21, 2006 11:5740929
The Big Dog removes his teeth and then growls loudly [80 words]Kevin MMar 21, 2006 11:5340927
Oil, oil and oil [183 words]E. J. BlumbergMar 21, 2006 11:1540921
Connecting the Dots [379 words]RickMar 21, 2006 11:0240918
Nice post, Rick... [32 words]orange yonasonMar 21, 2006 14:2940918
Right on the mark - Rick [213 words]JaladhiMar 21, 2006 16:2940918
to richard the lion hearted [390 words]rickMar 27, 2006 17:4340918
Bush calls a spade a "spade," except in Israel, it is a "heart." [327 words]Dr RJPMar 21, 2006 10:2540915
Been There, Done That [74 words]ornage yonasonMar 25, 2006 22:4240915
Pipes - most lucid of all commentators [44 words]William Sumner ScottMar 21, 2006 09:5740914
This observer wishes [36 words]Howard E. CookMar 21, 2006 09:0140904
Cut Short [38 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
GeorgeMar 21, 2006 08:5040902
Mideast End Result [197 words]John R. PeacherMar 21, 2006 08:2640900

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