Submitted by orange yonason (United States), Jan 10, 2006 at 01:06
BS"D
It's like the old story of the fellow who kept messing up, despite the good advice he got from an acquaitance but would never implement. A friend who saw this asked why he didn't take the advice, seeing that it would probably work. He responded that he didn't want to give that fellow, whom he detested, the satisfaction.
Ever notice how the supporters of failed policies always look to the golden future just around the bend, regardless of the ever mounting evidence to the contrary?
No evidence of progress is necessary to justify their schemes, only blind faith in idiologies rooted in visions of a desired outcome. The realiability of the methods employed to attain it: methods not only not proven to work, but which historically have always failed, is of no consideration, and anyone who dares raise this objection risks social ostracism, or worse.
Even when they turn around and look back on the horrible and ever increasing devistation their methods have caused or facilitated, the only thing they can come up with is more of the same.
Let's face it, if a Religious Jew tells them what to do, it can't be right. And, who knows, maybe they'll "get lucky" and accidentally achieve peace, and then they can say, "See, we knew what we were doing all along."
But that isn't even close to "likely," and they prefer death clinging to their useless fictions rather than admit that what the Torah tells us to do might actually work, "Chas v'Chalila!"
To find out what the Rebbe said about what to do, and compare it with reality for yourselves, I recommend this excellent blog on the subject:
http://savethelandofisrael.blogspot.com/
Where you will read things like:
"Fact: Whenever Israel took the initiative when faced with war, the number of dead was minimal. On the other hand, in Jerusalem where it was decided NOT to attack, the number killed was much greater."
or
"I say with full responsibility: It is forbidden to relinquish any part of the West Bank according to Jewish Law BECAUSE THIS IS LIFE THREATENING!" [my emphasis]
and
The Rebbe: ... "We will yet be pained that we returned the oil wells."
Ron: "Will there be renewed war in the region?"
The Rebbe: "The moment the Arabs are able, they will attack."
and finally, regarding giving autonomy to our enemies....
"Would it be better to have 1.5 million Arabs in their own country a firing shot away from the cities and villages of the Jewish State, rather than to have one million Arabs subject to the scrutiny of the State within her borders, with all the problems which this would create?"
If that doesn't raise some leftist hackles, I don't know what will.
I repeat: THIS IS A MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH. We MUST keep the Land, not only because it is ours, but also and primarily now because it will preserve both Jewish and Arab lives.
Yes, Dr. Pipes is unfortunately correct. There is no one at the helm who knows a different course, and so Israel will not only hold it's present course, but increase it's speed. After all, that is the only "change" they seem to know how to make.
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