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Burquinis AND Burquas should be banned

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Submitted by Lorna Salzman (United States), Aug 23, 2016 at 12:40

Dear Mr. Pipes:

At first your argument sounds reasonable. However, that is because, for some reason, you do not recognize the burkini as a symbol or representation of something else....as the burqa is too. It represents radical Islam and all of its oppressive doctrines, especially the inferiority of women. It is a symbol exactly like the Nazi swastika and we all know what that stood for. If someone wore a swastika on a chain or T shirt, they would be lynched in a minute. Wearing the burquini or burqua announces the wearer's allegiance to the religious doctrine that it represents.

Of course this kind of defiant political statement is not the only one that Muslims issue. Issues of food, public spaces, etc. are prevalent as well. Muslims are deliberately causing these confrontations as a way of obtaining special privileges for themselves as well as trying to assert and impose the superiority of their religion and why they deserve special treatment.

Unfortunately they also exploit liberals and intimidate them. If liberals spoke up the Muslims would start backing down. In the end all of this is a complete rejection of anything resembling assimilation or even moderate integration. European countries are blamed for their alienation but the fact is that they themselves make it clear that they have no intention of assimilating or putting secular and civil society laws ahead of the qu ran.

The caliphate may not be imminent but what is already happening is the weakening of the foundations of secular civil society and the rule of law, and the separation of mosque and state. This is obvious and nothing will stop the Muslims unless strong measures are taken to insure that their religion is kept out of public life and that no concessions are offered Muslims for anything at any time.

Lorna Salzman


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Daniel Pipes replies:

The burkini is to Islamists as the swastika is to the Nazis? What an amazing and bizarre comparison for a hitherto-obscure article of clothing that has not, so far as I am aware, ever festooned a flag or banner but simply keeps some women covered on the beach.

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Title Commenter Date Thread
UK police may let Muslims wear burka as uniform in effort to boost diversity [20 words]
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FormerStudentSep 9, 2016 15:47232477
modern kit [64 words]Mohammed Waza Khiddif id'UllahSep 15, 2016 03:21232477
Re: Your comment [132 words]
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Jonathan KeilerAug 29, 2016 17:23231944
1Hillary would look fabulous in Burkini [140 words]Bakrdi151Aug 28, 2016 03:25231863
1Burkini looks ugly [96 words]PrashantAug 27, 2016 22:07231846
power over reason [60 words]
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mythAug 26, 2016 20:28231805
Cote d'Azur and the socially undesirables [75 words]mythAug 26, 2016 20:25231804
1You are refreshingly harsh towards Muslim sharia [120 words]
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BillAug 25, 2016 09:15231736
Nazi symbol [19 words]
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marlanAug 25, 2016 06:10231734
Propaganda [73 words]BenAug 24, 2016 15:03231703
Burkini [43 words]Steven Boldovitch (Liberal member /Toronto East-York)Aug 24, 2016 13:06231698
Burkini [178 words]David MCAug 24, 2016 08:29231681
1With respect, a Strong Dissent [435 words]Ron ThompsonAug 23, 2016 22:15231665
Yes! [13 words]Ruth SklarAug 23, 2016 20:26231663
4So let's ban black Nazi uniforms but not the grey ones! [714 words]UNCLE VLADDIAug 23, 2016 19:37231662
1Muslim garments are a uniform for IFF [70 words]DavePAug 24, 2016 05:51231662
Of Muslims and Nazis, etc. [498 words]Michael SAug 24, 2016 11:12231662
my Burkini comment [10 words]Joan RibiDec 8, 2016 12:22231662
Burkini [2879 words]Iftikhar AhmadAug 23, 2016 16:10231653
Burkini or Bust [106 words]
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WilliamAug 23, 2016 15:42231651
Let's compromise [15 words]Abu NudnikAug 23, 2016 14:35231647
1Dr. Pipes, you rather miss part of the point. [263 words]Anon.Aug 23, 2016 13:49231644
1100% support the BAN!!! [64 words]ullaAug 23, 2016 13:06231643
1Burquinis AND Burquas should be banned [304 words]
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Lorna SalzmanAug 23, 2016 12:40231641
2Re: Burquinis AND Burquas should be banned [46 words]WHSAug 27, 2016 03:40231641
ban on burkinis [80 words]KikaAug 29, 2016 14:20231641
Homophobia is deplorable and has nothing to do with the burquini issue [140 words]Lorna SalzmanAug 30, 2016 11:15231641
Christians also wear "burkinis" [88 words]Peter ChewAug 23, 2016 11:19231631
Birkini in Saudi Arabia? Never [96 words]dhimmi no moreAug 26, 2016 08:46231631
waiting for France to lead the way and ban all things Islamic [30 words]OliverAug 23, 2016 10:26231629
4The burkini and the burqa AND the veil are all flags of conquest [61 words]Bernado StevensAug 23, 2016 10:13231628
Conquest? Really! [167 words]stevenlSep 1, 2016 10:18231628
L' opinion d' une Musulmane Francaise. About male androgenic chauvinism!!! [704 words]stevenlSep 6, 2016 16:44231628
Islamic Gear A Kind Of Rorschach Test [186 words]DaveAug 23, 2016 09:56231624
ban burka [101 words]dianne gallenAug 23, 2016 09:55231622
Sometimes I wish more women would wear the burkini ... [25 words]David KoralAug 23, 2016 09:32231618
Fiddling while Rome burns [95 words]DavePAug 23, 2016 09:17231616
1Are Burins safe in the water? [95 words]dhimmi no moreAug 23, 2016 08:34231614
Washington's allies [263 words]PerraultAug 23, 2016 03:57231609
1Sense at last [62 words]ECAWAug 23, 2016 02:10231608
Today, the Burkini... [52 words]Mal CitronAug 23, 2016 01:14231607
3Missing the point [53 words]stevenlAug 23, 2016 01:10231606
absolutely right [12 words]gray manAug 30, 2016 06:26231606
Could a Burkini become a BOOM-KINI? [48 words]Mike RamirezAug 22, 2016 23:40231605
3Yes, I agree. What the French are doing makes no practical sense. [88 words]
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Michael SAug 22, 2016 22:11231603
yes agree [51 words]angela greerAug 23, 2016 15:40231603

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