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Milquetoast Moderation of Religion

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Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Apr 2, 2014 at 16:14

Herein lays the conundrum of all modern forms of religion, some more modern than others to be sure, but conformance to modernization still debatable dependent upon one's desire to conform. Issues of doctrine versus interpretation become the focus until the impasse; then there is the argument to the end with no conclusion, or the milquetoast 'let us agree to disagree.'

In the main three monotheistic religious ideologies, the issues are joined by the Judaic basis that so many have a hard time understanding; then arrives the Christian conversion; and finally the Islamic tenets by which all three are locked in mortal combat to attempt in gaining religious supremacy; none of which in their mortal form, however, will ever do so. Islamic doctrine bursts forth in its desire to overrule the first two.

From this perspective, Islam in its basic set of tenets was/is not a moderate belief system, that its influences worldwide comes mostly from its conquests by executing the demands of the quoted Islamic verses. Reader al-Rassooli ( and so many others in this forum) have stated unequivocally that the truer understanding of Islam is not found in trying to find its moderate tone, but in the actions of those who follow it to the death.

Conversely, Judaism and its mortal Christian derivative have no resort to respond to the affront that Islam has presented and continues to present; for Islam is not about peace between or among the group. Islam is set by its own devices to gain and maintain superiority in all aspects of this mortal life and when taken to its full measure, no quarter is allowed except under the most rigorous religious conditions.

Case in point: the Arab League has said to the world they will not endure a 'Jewish State,' especially in the land of Israel. The leadership of the 'Palestinian' Authority has taken this gauntlet and have shaken it in the face of the United Nations, who have already allowed the vote of the 'Palestinian's' cause to take unilateral action for conquest of Jerusalem. The moderate Muslims in Jerusalem should know their status there is in jeopardy.

As for Mr. al-Rasooli's five contentions in collusion with Mr. Ibrahim's observations, the first clouds the real issues as to why Christian and Jew[ish] believers sought reformation, for there is often the claim that Christianity caused the crusades and forced conversions of millions of non-Christian populations; and that is still the dialogue of the non-Messianic Jewish believer today, echoed by the militant Islamists.

Of a truth, Yeshua HaMashiach does not order conversions; it is still a matter of the only free moral choice a human can make. The Holy Spirit is the actual converter of those who seek Him in faith. As a general rule, the evidence is that Judaism does not force proselytism; one must want it and be willing to conform to it. Only in a corrupted expression of a false Christian profession does it take on the brutalities that the Roman Church recently apologized for. Mainstream Protestantism was no less implicated in their failure to comply with the commandments of the love of the LORD.

Al-Rasooli's second point stands on its own.

His third, however, raises and falls with the common misunderstanding of just exactly what the Christ commanded. Many who claim Christianity have a problem with that as well. First, there is only one distinction between the 'Hebrew' and Christian 'New Testament,' that they are the beginning and ending of the LORD's expression of His dealings with mankind and they are tied together with the preview and full view of Yeshua HaMashiach, Jesus Christ. Yeshua said: "if you love me, keep my commandments."

Better it is for a Christian to be servant to the love of Jesus Christ than a slave to the alternatives. Therein lays freedom in the spirit.

As for the fourth, let it rise and stand on its own merits, if any.

And fifth, to be sure, the dialogue of who can call one a moderate Muslim is not going to be dictated by any other than those to whom fundamental Islam is charged. If this were not so, would there be any reason to wonder as the things that happen in Islam in the name of the Quranic Deity continues to shock the 'modern' world?

The joining made mention of before is prognosticated in the above mentioned Scriptures, the timing of which becoming more and more apparent in its immediacy; the 'Palestinians' are preparing for their next collision with the destiny they cannot seem to control. Those who have maintained a 'moderate' form of their religious profession, whether Judaic, Christianesque, or 'moderate' Muslim, are facing the the next circumstance of how their choices affect their futures.

Yeshua offers the non-religious alternative to what is about to happen. We are approaching the next celebration of Passover and the sacrifice made for mortal sinful mankind: believe in the LORD Yeshua, Jesus Christ and realize that He already had all of these things under His control and realize mortal man will never be able to replace Him, or Israel, ever.

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