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Submitted by TL Winslow (United States), Mar 30, 2014 at 09:02

Sorry, but the Pipes Dream of a Moderate Islam is hallucenogenic smoke, because the Quran is written in stone and is like a magic mirror that tells its readers to ignore fellow Muslims and obey Allah's commands directly, which are to take over the world in his name and make his Big Omelet no matter how many eggs have to be broken. In short, the Quran makes it choice #1 to kill for Allah, there are no consequences when a Muslim kills a non-Muslim or a claimed Muslim apostate, Allah Akbar. There have been countless attempts to reform Islam, all bloody failures. The closest thing today might be the Ahmadiyya Muslims, all 10 million of them, good luck with that.

What about Judaism? Yes, there is moderate Judaism, but the fact is that Israel is run by atheists who keep the religious Jews in their place. If there were a fundamentalist revolution in Israel, they'd soon be back to literal fulfillment of Jehovah's commands after executing the atheists. The only good thing about Judaism is that Jehovah commands Jews to take over and run the Holy Land, not the whole world. Too bad, Allah won't allow Jews to control even a square inch of territory in the Holy Land, hence the giant mess the Middle East is in, albeit the threat of World War III for destroying the Muslim crap on the Temple Mount and restoring the Jewish worship there keeps the religious Jews at bay. Good news, due to the great power of the Internet working on their minds, the Great Muslim Apostasy is just around the corner, where hundreds of millions of Muslims will tweet that they're chucking Islam, Allah, Muhammad and his Great Jihad and accepting the Jewish state of Israel, dancing in the streets with Jews. When the Wicked Witch is dead, the lines can be redrawn, with Greater Israel becoming a superpower that leads the ex-Muslims into a United States of the Middle East that becomes a blessing to the world instead of a curse, imagine them studying science five times a day instead of praying. But that Israel will still be run by atheists. Bad parts excepted, the Bible will always be great literature, like the Quran will never be. …


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Title Commenter Date Thread
The Fallacy of moderate Islam [130 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
SkiltzOct 4, 2014 14:20218461
A water-downed version of "authentic Christianity" [415 words]FalcoSep 9, 2014 07:44217691
The purpose of religion is to control ourselves, not to criticize others [12 words]Nalliah ThayabharanJul 11, 2014 00:42215894
The Logic - Big Three [81 words]Mark DApr 14, 2014 21:42214475
1Manful try, Dr. Pipes [615 words]Kepha HorApr 8, 2014 17:56214377
The Middle East Forum Debates Moderate Islam [722 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Peter F.Apr 7, 2014 13:56214347
Human Interpretation of Christianity May be Moderated - Its Biblical Truth Does Not Change [659 words]M. ToveyMay 16, 2014 14:29214347
1Religion is an Opium [70 words]Nalliah ThayabharanApr 4, 2014 12:35214264
2How long have we got? [52 words]StavrosApr 2, 2014 01:58214190
2Ibrahim is right [101 words]Mahendra MathurApr 1, 2014 16:38214178
Islam doctrine too ingrained to change [148 words]BridgetApr 17, 2014 16:39214178
4Moderate Nazi could be solution. [658 words]PhiliorApr 1, 2014 09:23214176
Moderate followers make moderate religions [554 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
AlexandrosApr 1, 2014 08:27214175
1"Moderate" Religion [160 words]Michael S.Apr 1, 2014 05:56214172
1Pipes and Ibrahim: Is Moderate Islam Possible [349 words]Richard BenkinApr 1, 2014 00:15214170
arab orthodoxy vs south-asian moderate [95 words]mythApr 2, 2014 06:03214170
1Pipes and Ibrahim: Is Moderate Islam Possible: Response [157 words]Richard BenkinApr 4, 2014 00:05214170
2You are misreading religion in India [204 words]dhimmi no moreApr 4, 2014 13:00214170
Misreading? Doubtful. [123 words]Richard BenkinApr 5, 2014 07:56214170
1Motivations and rocket science [429 words]dhimmi no moreApr 7, 2014 17:14214170
Desert v. Monsoon Islam? [251 words]Peter HerzApr 8, 2014 18:06214170
Ibrahim and Pipes on Moderate Islam [270 words]Mark DMar 31, 2014 20:44214168
reformed or transformed? [345 words]FrankzMar 31, 2014 19:39214166
Moderate Islam [229 words]Dan SchnittkerMar 31, 2014 16:05214165
1Why Ibrahim is right [35 words]Roberto AlazarMar 31, 2014 12:23214162
historical analogies? [164 words]gayleMar 31, 2014 11:55214161
Time Heals [50 words]Jon, a Brit from EurolandMar 31, 2014 09:59214160
A True Dilemma [414 words]john w. mcginleyMar 31, 2014 09:52214159
Taking love for granted [125 words]John BMar 31, 2014 08:13214157
1Reformed Islam - and maybe Moderate Muslims [116 words]Dian KjaergaardMar 31, 2014 07:15214155
1Your Expectations [276 words]MoisheMar 31, 2014 04:31214154
Moderate Muslims "used as objects of derision" [38 words]RhetoricalGirlApr 14, 2014 18:20214154
Feminism & education will be the key (and the Noor soap opera as a bright spot) [334 words]PezDispenserMar 31, 2014 04:08214153
moderate muslims vs. moderate Islam [9 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
MosheMar 31, 2014 03:08214152
Even if moderate Islam takes off, there will still be jihadists and Islamists galore [63 words]Yoel NatanMar 31, 2014 00:15214150
1Reinterpretation of scripture [180 words]Russ GoldMar 30, 2014 23:43214149
To be or not to be .......... [114 words]jon metesMar 30, 2014 22:31214148
5Rebuttal to Mr Pipes on 'Moderate Muslims' [424 words]IQ al RassooliMar 30, 2014 21:14214147
Milquetoast Moderation of Religion [849 words]M. ToveyApr 2, 2014 16:14214147
Islamic Moderation Greater in the Past [211 words]DaveMar 30, 2014 20:27214146
4A COMPLIMENT [176 words]DAVIDMar 30, 2014 20:03214145
Moderate Islam? [14 words]Paul SeverienMar 30, 2014 17:39214141
Moderate Islam ? [74 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
JanaMar 30, 2014 17:22214139
Nothing human is fixed [86 words]Kingsley BeattieMar 30, 2014 16:35214138
2Reforming Islam??? [227 words]Carl GoldbergMar 30, 2014 16:32214137
Wrong analogy [176 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
aviMar 30, 2014 14:07214135
1Pipe's Error [129 words]Nathan DeutschMar 30, 2014 14:01214134
Ibrahim's viewpoint is more compelling. [292 words]Rich McMahonMar 30, 2014 13:36214133
How to save Muslims and the rest of us from Islam and other religions [423 words]A.T. HalmayMar 30, 2014 13:35214132
Do civilizations "progress" [181 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
MARTIN KESSLERMar 30, 2014 13:12214131
"Moderate" sounds like "Luke Warm" [146 words]Tony PattersonMar 30, 2014 12:52214130
I admire optimism but... [265 words]Doug MayfieldMar 30, 2014 12:35214129
Dichotomy: Fundamental Muslims vs Moderate Muslims [430 words]Mike RamirezMar 30, 2014 12:16214128
1I believe change is possible [96 words]Robin RosenblattMar 30, 2014 12:09214126
1'change' possible - but for how long??? [38 words]Mohammed Wazir AhkspaidarApr 1, 2014 22:06214126
Islam is a community religion [96 words]Robin RosenblattApr 1, 2014 23:33214126
תודה [1 words]Robin RosenblattApr 3, 2014 23:56214126
1No Moderate Islam [73 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
AndrewMar 30, 2014 11:54214124
Does Moderate Islam Really Exist? [211 words]M. ToveyApr 2, 2014 19:27214124
1From a British perspective [48 words]ECAWMar 30, 2014 11:31214122
Islam certainly does seem to be the problem [120 words]RaeApr 4, 2014 18:21214122
1Ideology first [47 words]ECAWApr 5, 2014 05:35214122
2The legacy of the the concept of "radical Islam" [159 words]Irving WeisdorfMar 30, 2014 11:18214121
Interpretation Changes Are Possible [317 words]Iftekhar HaiMar 30, 2014 11:13214120
Changing Islam [91 words]JIMJFOXMar 30, 2014 10:43214117
1Moderate Islam oxymoron? [102 words]Wallace SchwamMar 30, 2014 10:37214116
2Inmportant Debate to Have [254 words]Boston Tea PartyMar 30, 2014 10:35214115
1Here is an example of why Islam cannot be reformed [179 words]dhimmi no moreMar 30, 2014 10:11214113
Lev. 20:13 misunderstanding [143 words]New Class TraitorMar 30, 2014 09:49214112
1ISLAM IS ISLAM [93 words]Bob RosenMar 30, 2014 09:42214111
Assimilation effects [178 words]Duncan DruhlMar 30, 2014 09:15214110
What's in Your Pipe? [377 words]TL WinslowMar 30, 2014 09:02214109
1Q9:29 and abrogation and the fatal flaw in Sunni Islam is there is no Pope! [277 words]dhimmi no moreMar 30, 2014 08:53214108
1The Islamic "Pope" is the Kalipha [143 words]Mike RamirezApr 1, 2014 22:17214108
4حاميها حراميها or the thief is the one who is protecting it and Turkey is a vile country [889 words]dhimmi no moreApr 2, 2014 19:07214108
1Great explanation. Thanks! [179 words]Mike RamirezApr 3, 2014 23:50214108
2The amazing Oktar and his women [352 words]dhimmi no moreApr 5, 2014 11:36214108
1There is a difference between Jewish and Christian "holy books" and the Qur'an [240 words]Eric MacDonaldMar 30, 2014 08:52214107
1Truth is absolute [114 words]TBKMar 30, 2014 08:30214106

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