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Submitted by Nur el Masih Ben Haq (United States), May 13, 2011 at 20:38

Apparently ashamed by Deborah's reference to the pagan origin of the word 'Allah', Mr. (or M'ss) realist attempts to revenge but ends up exposing his ignorance about the biblical concept of son(s) of God. Below is an explanation of the concept.


In the Holy Bible, the concept of 'son' is not always ordinarily biological, but spiritual some times; Biblically, son-ship could either be in a biological or spiritual sense. The spiritual birth or son-ship is attained by only the righteous or consecrated servants of God (John 3:3-8; Gen. 6:1-4; Mathew 5:9; Romans 8:14; 2 Samuel 7:14; Jeremiah 10:20).

Son(s) of God
This is, indeed, a spiritual status (Romans 1:3-4, 8:14). That biologically God never have a son is a fact well known among, and believed by, Christians, whose Jesus and scriptures had explicitly taught so, centuries before Muhammad was born (John 1:12-13, 3:3-8, 1 Peter 1:23-25, Luke 1:35, Luke 1:35, 6:33-36).

First Son(s) of God
Biblically, being a first son is not always in a bio-chronological sense but, at times, in status sense which is conceptualized from the fact that biological first son is CONSECRATIONAL (Luke 2:22-24; Exodus 13:2) as, indeed, is every firstling (Jas. 1:18; Exodus 13:12-16).

'First Son of God' is the status of any one consecrated by God. It follows that there are many First Sons of God (Hebrew 12:25; Luke 2:23, Exodus 4:22-23; Jeremiah 1:5, 31:9).

Ordinarily, Adam was the first son of God (Luke 3:38, 1Cor. 15:45). But consecration-wise, Jesus is the first of all the first sons of God (Romans 8:29).

Begotten Son(s) of God
Similarly, this 'begottenness' is in spiritual sense; it is affirmative to spiritual birth, which is effected simply by divine declaration. Its significance is that it makes the concept more appealing than the simpler 'Son(s) of God'. Therefore, begotten sons of God are not thus begotten in biological sense. "You are my son. Today I have begotten you" (Pls 2:7; Hebrew 5:5; Luke 3:22).

The Only (Begotten) Son of God
Therefore, the 'onlyness' here is not in the ordinary numerical sense but hyperbolic; it expresses dearness and dominance of an associated quality; it is a distinctive expression of a dearly value; it means the associate 'begottenness' that eclipses the other 'begottennesses' (John 1:14, 18. Compare John 3:3-5 with 16-18 and Geneses 21:8-21 with 22:1-2).

Jesus' Son of God Status
Therefore, Jesus being God's Son was not due to his miraculous birth but, his absolute saintliness and being spiritually consecrated (as there are many other God's sons, whose first birth were, however, not miraculous).

Nevertheless, the status 'The Only Son of God', distinguishes Jesus from the other sons of God.

Jesus, therefore, is a unique associate Son of God through whom others can attain adaption as Sons of God (Luke 1:35; Mathew 16:16-17; Galatians 4:4; John 4:15; Col. 1:15-20; Hebrew 1:4-14).

The Difference Between 'Son of God' and 'Servant of God
Every son of God is His servant; but it is not every servant of God that is His Son (Hebrew 3:5-6; Jeremiah 25:9; Mathew 5:9; Acts 3:26; 1 Cor. 7:22; Romans 13:3-4, 8:14).

Significance of the Status of Son (instead of Servant) of God
'Son' is a status that is more recognized than 'Servant'. It is, therefore, of a very intelligent significance. Normally, there is a much greater (In fact, steadfastly optimal) love in the father-son relationship than is in the master-servant type. Psychologically, filio-parental relationship is the strongest, most appealing and, therefore, most effective (Hebrew 3:5-6, 12:5-11; John 8:35, 15;15; Proverb 3:12; Mathew 7:7-11; Luke 20:9-16; Romans 8:14-17; Isaiah 1:2-3; Hosea 1:10; Galatians 4:4-7). On the other hand, the master-servant relationship is merely conceptualized from service and wages.

That is why God, the most intelligent, has chosen to relate to some of His servants as His spiritual children. In fact, only the children of God can go to heaven (John 3:3; 1 Cor. 15:50).

The Problems of the Muslims (like Mr. realist)
The pre-Islamic or pagan Arabs use to believe that Allah had (biological) children (Qur'an 6:100, 16;57, 37:149, 153).
Thus, the Qur'anic or Islamic rejection of any one's being son of God was due to the localized lingual perception of the early Arab Muslims, who thought that such son-ship was meant biologically, as they had wrongly believed while they were pagan.

You see, Christianity is a sophisticated religion. That is why Muslims fumble whenever they apply their usually simplistic logic in attacking the doctrines of the faith


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dear PE [100 words]realistMay 12, 2011 15:29185040
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1Shards of Custiss Lemay [224 words]Jon, a Brit from EurolandMay 5, 2011 05:09184866
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2Allah Moon-God [104 words]realistMay 12, 2011 15:41184866
2help for realist [192 words]DEBORAH THE JUDGEMay 13, 2011 09:31184866
Deborah is RIGHT, 'Allah' is originally a reference to pagan deity [119 words]Nur el Masih Ben HaqMay 13, 2011 19:41184866
BIBLICAL SONS(S) OF GOD Vs Mr. realist's MISCONCEPTION [744 words]Nur el Masih Ben HaqMay 13, 2011 20:38184866
What is wrong in being a pagan diety? [80 words]PrashantMay 14, 2011 01:16184866
2Totally correct [255 words]AngelMay 16, 2011 03:37184866
37'Allah,' Is Not the God of the Bible [5886 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Brutus BalanMay 23, 2011 00:12184866
BRUTUS BALAN is right but.... [230 words]Nur el Masih Ben HaqMay 26, 2011 12:14184866
1In agreement with Brutus [82 words]+Bp Gabrielle Crofts OCCJun 6, 2011 07:41184866
The narrative Bible and the erratic Quran [491 words]Brutus BalanOct 11, 2011 01:00184866
Creation days: numbered not named [352 words]Brutus BalanDec 8, 2011 23:56184866
1Brutus Balan is right..... [27 words]Jim BowDec 13, 2011 00:20184866
Allah means God in Arabic. The Christians have a right to the word. [48 words]Daniel AquinoApr 20, 2013 13:56184866
1Do explain please! [26 words]Brutus BalanApr 23, 2013 04:13184866
1They say "Allah" just means "God," but... [40 words]RKaeOct 14, 2013 10:16184866
1So many mistakes. [308 words]SharbanoOct 14, 2013 14:20184866
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Appropriateness of this article [210 words]Nick LimOct 19, 2013 00:43184866
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Not odd, if the issue is God [408 words]Brutus BalanOct 29, 2013 01:40184866
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Why stay out? [151 words]VijayNov 5, 2013 07:34184866
Stay Out and Muse Elsewhere [297 words]Brutus BalanNov 5, 2013 21:48184866
not appropriate [97 words]VijayNov 8, 2013 13:02184866
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