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I fear Wafa S. is closer to the truth, but I see a way to synthesize your positions

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Submitted by Charles Martel (United States), Dec 29, 2009 at 16:00

I'm glad Daniel finally put this up -- I think it is a worthwhile discussion within the anti-Jihad community.

Daniel says Islam can be reformed because left to itself it has self-reformed periodically. Although Wafa is far more pessimistic, she basically said the same thing -- Islam could be reformed -- but added that it would have to be the Saudi princes who do it.

The answer is a change of government in Arabia -- ideally to some kind of secular tyrant ala Saddam but also perhaps via an Iranian invasion that would put Arabia in flux.

We had a chance of a Nasserist coup by the Arabian Air Force in 1969 (apparently) and we should have let Saddam take Arabia in 1990 -- now, instead, we got rid of Saddam and $53B and 3300 lives later, we have a worse and Moslem-based government on our nickel with our fingerprints -- great!

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