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Our dear Gaj a real victim of the arabs and their imperialism part deux
Reader comment on item: Islamic Economics: What Does It Mean?
in response to reader comment: RESPONSE TO 'DHIMMI NO MORE'

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Apr 23, 2009 at 18:56

Our dear Gaj whose ancestors were brutalized by the religion of the arabs ...wrote

>"You need to ask your Mullah to tell you what it says. Oh wait your Mulllah does not speak read or write Arabic like you. Right? So let me help you it is Q14:4 mr ignorant and if you need more evidence that the Qur'an says that Muhammad the Arabain warlrod and caravan raider was sent only to his qawm (oh the word Qawm? you know by now that I do not translate arabic for wannabe arabs like you) and he was therefore was sent to your Hindu ancestors because he did not seak BangaliQ14:4 and now you either put up or shut up"The truth is there is no verse in the Qur'an which says the prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) was only sent to the Hijazi Arabs.

Really? well let us see it says in Arabic a language that you cannot read or write

wa ma arsalna min rasulan ila bilisani qawmihi

>The reference you have given (Q14:4) only says that the prophets were sent with the language of their own people,

Right. So let me see:

1. Muhammad the Arabian warlord and caravan raider spoke Arabic right?

2. His qawm or people the Hijazi Arabs spoke only Arabic right?

3. The bogus hadith that you believe tells us that your Allah sent 120000 prophets right?

4. Your Hindu ancestors did not speak Arabic. Right? Then Muhammad was not the one among the 120000 prophets that was sent to them right mr demagogue?

5. So who was the prophet that was sent to your qawm? Let me guess: Is it Rama or is it ganesh?

>which is obviously commonsense.

"common sense"? What common sense? that you are a demagogue? We know that already

>It doesn't say the prophet Muhammad was only sent to his own people.

Hello: I says that Allah only sends a prophet that speak the language of his own qawm or people which means that islam is really the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only and you ain't no Hijazi Arab and let us not forget the 120000 other prophets oh and more about the word Nabi and Rasul

And let us see what it say one more time:

1. Wa means and

2. Ma means not

3. Arsalna means we sent

4. Min means from

5. rasul means messenger/ prophet (see Q7:75 for mursal and see below)

6. ila means except

6. Bilisani means in the tongue (read this as language)

7. Qawmihi means his people

Which means: WE DO NOT SEND A MESSENGER/PROPHET UNLESS (HE COMES) IN THE LANGUAGE OF HIS PEOPLE (read in present due to grammatical aspect)

It means that Muhammad was not sent to your Hindu ancestors so who was really sent to them?

>Obviously the prophet Muhammad(pbuh) started off his world mission with the arabs,

What world mission? Oh you mean the looting and the destruction of great civilizations and brutalizing your ancestors and he and Allah getting 1/5 of the loot (See Q8:41)?

Hello: you are no more than a victim of the Arabs and their imperialism and you are an example of the so called Stockholm Syndrome where the victim becomes the proponent of the evil

>so obviously he had to know how to speak Arabic (which was the language of his people),

It makes you wonder with all the grammatical mistakes in the Qur'an if Abul Wasim really knew his Arabic

> but he never intended to be a prophet just to the arabs.

So where does it say in the Qur'an

ina muhammad laysa al-rasul al-nabi lel Arab faqat

You will not find it. Oh the Arabic? I do not translate arabic for wannabe arabs like you

>This is why he sent letters to the emperor of Persia,

Really? he did? then where is your extant evidence? It does not exist except in the unhistorical islamic tradition that is the biggest literary fraud in the history of mankind and your claim is bogus

> to the emperor of the Byzantine empire,

Oh he did? then how come the Byzantines had no clue who were really those Arab invaders in 633CE and you will not find any extant evidence in the extant Greek sources that would tell us: Oh those are the Arabs whose leader Muhammad sent a letter to Heraclius. The silence of the sources here is very important

Oh and you forgot the bogus letter to al-muqawqas of Egypt

To the readers: the little story of Muhammad sending letters is a bogus story and there is nothing historical about it

> to the king of Abyssinia

He did? really where?and how did he sent it? let me guess: by al-hamam al-zajil? and which langauge did he use?

>and so on.

Oh you mean al-muqawqas? There is no evidence that any of these letters even existed or sent but gullible people like you can believe anything including that an Arabian warlord and caravan raider spoke to a deity via an angel. ...

>In all these letters he invited these non-arab rulers to embrace Islam.

gobbeldygook

>The teachings of Islam can be translated and explained in all languages, so clearly Islam was not restricted by the fact that its holy book was in Arabic.

Really? the Qur'an a book that you cannot read in Arabic claims that it is kitab mubeen maktub bi 3arabi faseeh and it does not say that it is maktub bi binghali faseeh

> The first official copies of the New Testament were in Greek, so do you believe Christianity is just for the Greeks.

Really? then where does it say in the NT that Jesus was only sent to his qawm because he spoke their language Syriac? You will not find it but you have the Quranic

wa ma arsalna min rasulan ila bilisani qawmihi

>' Dhimmi no more' you said:"Yusuf Ali's translation? what a joke. Ali was a wannabe arab... just like you and his translation is poor and hod come you did not know that?"

Oh darn it there is more Quranic verses that indicate that Islam is really the religion of the Arabs only and they are:

1. wa likuli ummatin rasulan so who was the rasul that was sent to your Bengali umma? let me guess he ain't Abul Qasim

2. wa likuli qamin hadi so who was the hadi that was sent to your Bengali qawm? let me guess he ain;t Abul Qasim

3. wa ina min ummatin ila khala fiha nadhiran so who was the nadhir that was sent to your Bengali Umma? Let me guess he ain;t Muhammad

4. wa naza3na min kuli ummatan shahidan so who was the shahid that was sent to your Bengali people because he ain't Muhammad

You did ask for it. Oh the Quranic Arabic? I do not translate Arabic for wannabe Arabs like you

>How ridiculous, you seem to label every 'non arab muslim' a 'wannabe arab', even if you've never met them.

What is more ridiculous that some one like you who is a Bengali and whose ancestors were brutalized by islam and now he is a follower of an evil idea?

>"Say: "O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah, to Whom belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and death. So believe in Allah and His Messenger, the Unlettered Prophet, who believeth in Allah and His words: follow him that (so) ye may be guided." (Qur'an Surah 7 verse 158)

Poor translation the words

al-rasul al-nabi al-ummi means

1. al-rasul means the messenger/prophet (more later) and it is resereved fro the Arab prophets

2. The word nabi is a LOAN word from Hebrew (what a fadiha oh I mean scandal) and it means a prophet and in the islamic tradition it is reserved for Biblical prophets as in al-isra'eeliyat (and for the rasul/nabi see Suyuti's Itiqan and Zamakhshari's Kashshaf)

3. The word ummi does not mean jahil (mr jahil) or uneducated it means gentile from Hebrew 'am ha arets

So we read it as: the prophet (who belongs to the line of Arab prophets) the prophet (that belongs to the Biblical line of prophets) the gentile (or non Jewish) Muhammad is supposed to be

>' Dhimmi no more' when i provided the above quranic verse, you said:

Stay tuned for more. I urge you to abandon islam and be free again


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