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our dear gaj and islam is really the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only and al-wali wa al-mawali

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Apr 24, 2009 at 18:36

Our dear Gaj who is really a bengali or is it Pakistani and as if I care wrote

>So you are calling me a Bengali now, I'm happy to see that you have accepted my correction of your previous blunder,

Oh as I always say I start with this funny line because the Muslim ego has no limit and let me repeat what I wrote; Do you really think that I really care if you are Bengali or Pakistani? you are a victim of islam period and of poor education and your masters the Arabs would call you maskeen min el-bakistan or the poor one from Pakistan

Oh al-wali wa al-mawali? You know by now that i do not translate arabic for wannabe Arabs or tablighees like you

For the readers John of Nikiu was a Coptic priest who wrote a book about events in Egypt between 640CE (the Arabs invaded Egypt in 642CE) and 690CE and he tells us much about the atrocities inflicted on the people of Egypt by the Arabs and the fact that some Egyptians joined what he called the beast (read this as the Arabs) and it makes lots of sense as there are many people that would even terrorize even their own people for the sake of material gain

And indeed the Arabs that invaded the Middle East realized that many people in the occupied and conquered lands wanted to join them in looting others

Now enter Q14:4 (and many other verses in the Qur'an the likes of 10:47, 13:8, 35:24, 28:75) where it is clear that "the Quranic imagery underlining the ethnocentric position of prophets is both uniform and consistent (see Quranic studies by JW page 53) and this was indeed Suyuti's opinion in his Itiqan

Early on Arabs were not interested in gaining converts and indeed until the late Umayyads period most of the population of the Middle East was non Muslim and there was no reason for the Arabs to invite others to become Muslim as the Qur'an makes it clear that islam is indeed the religion of the Arabs and the fact that they can collect the jizya and kharaj taxes from non Muslims were more reaons to resist their conversion to the religion of the Arabs.

However the likes of the Coptic revolt of the 730CE was disastrous to the poeple of Egypt and many wanted to convert to the religion of the Arabs in-order to avoid the atrocities that were being inflicted on them and by being Muslims they would not have to pay the jizya or the kharaj taxes but the sad thing here the Arabs insisted that those that convert should still pay the jizya and that should not surpise us

Now what happens next is the Arabs insisted that non-Arabs can only convert to Islam if they become Arabs first and this can be achieved by being the mawali of a wali (or by being sponsored by an Arab master or wali) and they become Arabs first then they can convert to the religion of the Arabs and this indeed started to take place in the very late Umayyads period and the 3Abbassids period

But by the time Muslims arrived in India it was a different story. There was just too many infidels and not too many Arabs walis and the end result is Hindus were allowed to convert to islam and they did not have to find an Arab wali and did not have to abandon their native languages and the ulama had to dig in the Qur'an again to find "divine proof of its (islam) universality by stressing the inclusion of the non Arabic idiom) " (see Suyuti) but the reality here is this would be regarded by early Muslims as a bid3a

So much for the religion fo the Arabs

Oh and stay tuned for more about the fuuny hadith of the breat feeding of the adult and other sordid matters

Submitting....

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