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Submitted by Gajibur (United Kingdom), Apr 22, 2009 at 13:44

Hello 'Dhimmi no more', you said the following:

"Our dear Gaj who is really a Bengali via in England but a real wannabe Arab! go figure wrote"

So you are calling me a Bengali now, I'm happy to see that you have accepted my correction of your previous blunder, he he. But you're wrong about me being a wannabe arab, maybe the angel that speaks to you is giving you the wrong information about me, lol. You also said:

"But you can go and live there and be among other wannabe arabs and other victims of islam like you. Oh Saudi Arabia? no they will regard you there as another maskeen"

Well since i'm not a wannabe arab i have no desire to move to a place where i can live with other so called 'wannabe arabs'.

"So why not move to bandladesh? let me guess: it is a basket case due to islam."

My whole life has been in England, i can't just go and live in a totally new country without knowing the local language, you think a job and a home will be just waiting for me in the new country, that's why i don't move to Bangladesh. I visited Bangladesh about a year ago, and i must say the country is very stable and peaceful. And talking of basket cases, did you know that the United States of America, the leader of the western world, has some of the highest crime rates in the world. About 11,000 people die every year in the USA from gun related crimes, and around 263,000 women are raped every year in the USA, now that's what i call a basket case. These statistics are just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to crime in the USA. By the way, the statistics i mentioned above were just the average figures per annum, sometimes the crime rate is even higher. So is America a basket case due to christianity or due to the fact that it is a majority non-muslim country.

' Dhimmi no more' you said:

"Oh the Muslim ego has no limits"

This is rich coming from you. You continue and say:

"You need to ask your Mullah to tell you what it says. Oh wait your Mulllah does not speak read or write Arabic like you. Right? So let me help you it is Q14:4 mr ignorant and if you need more evidence that the Qur'an says that Muhammad the Arabain warlrod and caravan raider was sent only to his qawm (oh the word Qawm? you know by now that I do not translate arabic for wannabe arabs like you) and he was therefore was sent to your Hindu ancestors because he did not seak Bangali

Q14:4 and now you either put up or shut up"

The truth is there is no verse in the Qur'an which says the prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) was only sent to the Hijazi Arabs. The reference you have given (Q14:4) only says that the prophets were sent with the language of their own people, which is obviously commonsense. It doesn't say the prophet Muhammad was only sent to his own people. Obviously the prophet Muhammad(pbuh) started off his world mission with the arabs, so obviously he had to know how to speak Arabic (which was the language of his people), but he never intended to be a prophet just to the arabs. This is why he sent letters to the emperor of Persia, to the emperor of the Byzantine empire, to the king of Abyssinia and so on. In all these letters he invited these non-arab rulers to embrace Islam. The teachings of Islam can be translated and explained in all languages, so clearly Islam was not restricted by the fact that its holy book was in Arabic. The first official copies of the New Testament were in Greek, so do you believe Christianity is just for the Greeks.

' Dhimmi no more' you said:

"Yusuf Ali's translation? what a joke. Ali was a wannabe arab... just like you and his translation is poor and hod come you did not know that?"

How ridiculous, you seem to label every 'non arab muslim' a 'wannabe arab', even if you've never met them.

"Say: "O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah, to Whom belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and death. So believe in Allah and His Messenger, the Unlettered Prophet, who believeth in Allah and His words: follow him that (so) ye may be guided." (Qur'an Surah 7 verse 158)

' Dhimmi no more' when i provided the above quranic verse, you said:

"Well let us see what it says:

Qul ya ayuha al-nass ini rasul allah ilyaykum jami3an

Oh: say O people I am the prophet of Allah to you all"

Lol, you keep boasting that you know Arabic, but even i can see your translation is flawed. The Arabic word "rasul" in Surah 7 verse 158 should be translated as "Messenger", but you have incorrectly translated it as "prophet" . The Arabic word for prophet is "nabi", even i know that, so much for your great knowledge of Arabic, lol. There is a difference between a "Nabi" and a "Rasul", so it's important that you translate these words properly. You're probably thinking 'why has he bothered to correct my translation', I just thought i should correct your poor translation of this verse since you're always boasting about how you know Arabic.

' Dhimmi no more' you said:

"Allah spoke to me too do you think that Allah is talking about me?"

No, because he didn't speak to you, and if God has spoken to you can you tell me what my date of birth is and also what my mobile number is, if you can speak to God then this information should be easy for you to obtain. If you tell me what my date of birth is and what my mobile number is i will leave Islam and start following you.

" And i do not see anything about Islam after all your Allah also says that the injiil and the tawrah are the turth so do you think that may be this aya is talking about other prophets (sic) of Allah like Moses or jesus? what do you think ya ayuha al-falyasoof al-kabeer"

Why would Allah be talking about Moses or Jesus (peace be upon them), the Qur'an was revealed centuries after Moses had died, and centuries after Jesus, plus the Qur'an was not revealed to Moses or Jesus but was revealed to prophet Muhammad(pbuh), so Allah is referring to him, just as the tafsirs say. Your poor logic amazes me. 'Dhimmi no more' you said:

"I do not do al-hadith after reading the hadith about "rada3at al-kabeer" there is no reason for you or for me to believe anything in the hadith"

How convenient that you "do not do al-hadith", you only reject hadith because the hadith clearly mention the fact that the prophet Muhammad was sent for the whole of mankind, you don't fool me with your cheap excuses. And who cares if you "do not do al-hadith", the fact remains that the muslims all over the world accept hadith. All muslims know that Islam is taken from the Qur'an and Sunnah (Authentic hadith), so who cares if a non-muslim like yourself doesn't accept hadith. Do you think the whole muslim world should follow your opinion and reject the hadith just because you say so, Keep dreaming.

I said:

"Actually every nation has had messengers sent to them including my ancestors. And the prophet muhammad was the final messenger meant for the whole of mankind"

You replied:

"So where does it say that in the Qur'an?"

The Qur'an clearly says that prophets were sent to every nation, and here is the verse which mentions this:

And verily We have raised in every nation a messenger, (proclaiming): Serve Allah and shun false gods. Then some of them (were those) whom Allah guided, and some of them (were those) upon whom error had just hold. Do but travel in the land and see the nature of the consequence for the deniers!(Qur'an Surah 16 verse 36)

'Dhimmi no more' you have failed to prove that Islam teaches the prophet Muhammad(pbuh) was only sent to the Hijazi arabs. I urge you to learn Islam from Muslims and not non-muslims. I also urge you to embrace Islam for your own good, don't let your hatred for muslims be the reason why you end up in hell.

Peace

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