48 readers online now

98,559 comments by 26,197 readers

Go to Mobile Site

Latest Articles

 

ADVERTISEMENTS



Premium Links
by Wikio

Computers
Electronics
Communication
Appliances

eXTReMe Tracker

Mr. Joel Bainerman's article
Reader comment on item: Fund the Palestinians? Bad Idea

Submitted by Ynnatchkah (United States), Dec 29, 2007 at 21:59

When reading Mr. Joel Bainerman's article, many-many concerns came into my mind. After having lived in Israel and dealt with the immigration "machine" called Sochnut, differently from what I expected, public employees there, with some exceptions, were lazy, treating you with disdain, making mockery on your necessity for imperative documentation, etc…So

(1) Indeed if the US is to stop the monetary feeding, public jobs will be in danger and thus responsibility will be demanded, making the immigration machine more efficient.

(2) I have noted that whenever and wherever the flow of cash in big enough to spoil an entire population, such as in the US, for example at first, where the credit machine has been sick, there is an increase of spoiled citizens, with a sentiment of guilt towards the "less fortunate- abroad or local "refugees from Islamic lands" and Illegal, who in the future will guarantee these spoiled ones in power. And, with a personality based upon extreme capitalism, which make less spiritual and this more consumers, this new class of citizens "The Liberals" will also be increased by those incompetents who unable to survive in the competitive market, have now "jobs" b/c the economy in its bubble, not grow, requires them to work as a potential consumer.

Needless to say that this incompetent ones are hunger to buy, selling themselves to the Arab world for cash, to supply their necessities. So again, a lot of money brings this social problem.

Well, the exuberant flow of cash in Israel has really increased the liberal and cheap leftist class, responsible for most of the civil tragedies. Despite yet of so many denounces about the real face of Islamists, these "Jewish" liberals keep "up" the "good job. Therefore, In fact if the US stops "spoiling" Israel then this class tends to vanish. Note I'm attacking liberals and false leftists, not true and loyal leftists.

When people in Israel used to be less "rich" liberals were not harmful as such- remember?

(3)Putting aside these consequences, Joel Bainerman wrote this article in 1995 when the situation was better.

(4) The US spends more when giving to Islamic nations that when giving to Israel. These muslims use this cash not for social issues but to accumulate power to destroy Israel. So not only Israel will have fewer assets to fight against Islamists, but also these Islamists will have more assets to destroy Israel.

(5) There is a huge boycott against Israel and most of the American Jewry are more concerned about their situation in the US today, rather than priming for helping Israel- which is expected when not others but YOUR house is on fire.

(6) Many Jews got deluded when knowing that their donation where not going to where exactly was promised. I know a couple of cases, so the chance of donating to organizations decreases and by proxy the flow of cash to Israel.

So my big question is:

In simple terms, how you balance the above (3) - (4) - (5) - (6), without harming Israel?

Where is the maximum point of efficiency in this curve whose shape depends on so many factors?

How you maximize the process without compromising for sure the social future liability?

Thanks


Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened for relevance, substance, and tone, and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome, but comments are rejected if scurrilous, off-topic, vulgar, ad hominem, or otherwise viewed as inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the Guidelines for Comments. For informational purposes, we identify countries from which comments are sent.

Submit a comment on this item

Search by Enter name or date
Search Forum Comments:

Reader comments (65) on this item

Title By Date
show me da money hunny [420 words]GabrielleJun 15, 2008 06:51
Money can't by me Peace. [94 words]Graham R-BMar 2, 2008 13:02
CONDI ONLY IMPLEMENTING ANTI-ISRAEL AGENDA OF STATE DEPT ARABISTS [137 words]G. MarcusDec 30, 2007 07:41
This Article Hooked me. [217 words]YnnatchkahDec 30, 2007 02:15
⇒ Mr. Joel Bainerman's article [536 words]YnnatchkahDec 29, 2007 21:59
Abbas showing the real face of Islam too soon [77 words]YnnatchkahDec 28, 2007 01:19
Is foreign aid bad for Israel, too?
[w/response] [80 words]
SusanDec 27, 2007 13:40
Foreign Aid Bad For Israel ? [184 words]clarence paul puckettDec 31, 2007 00:31
EVEN THE MONEY FROM EU,US,THE WHOLE NON-MUSLIM WORLD WILL DO NOTHING [254 words]TTSDec 27, 2007 01:04
Arafat's two-headed snake in action [162 words]DrRJPDec 26, 2007 09:32
I expect to see this from the Euros and the Canadians who think that they will be saved but from the US... [152 words]James BurkeDec 23, 2007 13:09
End the Jizya [57 words]Peter HerzDec 23, 2007 09:22
the title of the article [38 words]snakesavageDec 23, 2007 00:50
Now it is all clear [351 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDDec 22, 2007 16:58
Disabled Arabs? [72 words]infidelDec 22, 2007 04:36
Fund the Palestinians? Bad Idea [50 words]S.C.PandaDec 22, 2007 02:20
Cash for peace and less global warming [181 words]PDMDec 21, 2007 13:34
Jihad, the pastime of the well-off [97 words]Alan in KansasDec 21, 2007 07:04
Corruption [126 words]Edward HalperDec 21, 2007 00:29
no end to terror in sight [126 words]Phil GreendDec 20, 2007 23:26
Read Steven Stotsky's article, "Will Massive Infusions of Aid Rescue the Palestinian Economy?" [434 words]DrRJPDec 20, 2007 17:37
Funding SNAFU [124 words]IKDec 20, 2007 14:17
Peres Coming around? [65 words]Archimedes2Dec 20, 2007 13:59
Unsupportable Conclusion [310 words]Sheldon TyberDec 20, 2007 13:35
The Superposition of Graphs is the most simple X-Ray. [297 words]YnnatchkahDec 20, 2007 13:29
False Analysis
[w/response] [259 words]
BaselDec 20, 2007 13:26
Hitting The Nail On The Head [33 words]Seamus MacNemiDec 20, 2007 13:25
Bread or Bullets [34 words]SemperfiDec 20, 2007 11:03
Eyeless in Jerusalem & Washington [140 words]Rena CohenDec 20, 2007 09:49
Let's Put a Cork in This Money Bottle. [328 words]maura collinsDec 20, 2007 09:09
Israel Giving The Arabs The Rope to Hang Them [21 words]Dan FriedmanDec 20, 2007 06:43
ABBAS NOT SERIOUS [64 words]Reporting IslaamDec 20, 2007 05:01
Funding the palis [795 words]Paul la DemainDec 20, 2007 03:23
Hi [226 words]Frank ShipleyDec 20, 2007 03:02
Excessive funding is not aid but a bribe [106 words]Nelson D'SilvaDec 20, 2007 00:42
The word that is missing from Pipes' sound comments is.... [58 words]Jascha KesslerDec 19, 2007 23:03
Fund the Palestinians? Bad Idea.. [588 words]Kim SegarDec 19, 2007 21:07
Pipes Should Be Our Negotiator [31 words]John GlueckDec 19, 2007 21:07
Millions in Aid Monthly for Murder [75 words]Susan DDec 19, 2007 20:06
Gangland [230 words]MarciDec 19, 2007 19:35
ONLY SOLUTION: GAZA UNDER EGYPT; PARTS OF WEST BANK LINKED TO JORDAN [151 words]G. MarcusDec 19, 2007 19:33
Funding the Palestinians [46 words]David GueirosDec 19, 2007 19:30
Interesting Statistics [87 words]William H GreeneDec 19, 2007 19:19
Not in my name [59 words]Peter, ScotlandDec 19, 2007 18:10
Why ? [81 words]AnnaDec 19, 2007 19:44
Insane [50 words]PeterDec 29, 2007 21:51
Important article: Pipes is exploring a critical area which should be more openly discussed [355 words]rickDec 19, 2007 18:04
Fund the Palestinians? [24 words]DebraDec 26, 2007 13:46
US Funding Terrorism [88 words]LindaKDec 19, 2007 17:58
Helping Palestinians [82 words]Janusz KowalikDec 19, 2007 17:49
Take the money and run [137 words]Rebecca MouldsDec 19, 2007 20:52
What is done with the money - that is what counts [120 words]David W. LincolnDec 19, 2007 17:40
Bush and State Dept. and EU Rewarding Evil and Terror [211 words]clarence paul puckettDec 24, 2007 00:41
Washing the salt [118 words]David W. LincolnDec 28, 2007 20:15
Response to my article ? [267 words]clarence paul puckettDec 31, 2007 01:22
The correct sequence [183 words]David W. LincolnDec 31, 2007 22:34
Arabs in the early church [260 words]clarence paul puckettJan 2, 2008 00:06
AMAZING GRAPHS SHOWING CORRELATION BETWEEN MONEY AND DEATH [133 words]JAC QUES HADIDADec 19, 2007 17:40
its not the part. its the culture [206 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDDec 23, 2007 16:51
Voluntary financial aid to killers is evil. Western Governments taking their citizens money by force to aid these killers is evil to the nth! [9 words]Ralph C Whaley MDDec 19, 2007 17:40
Insanity [184 words]Mary ConnorDec 19, 2007 23:11
"why is it evil Dr Whaley?" [252 words]Lactantius Jr.Dec 24, 2007 08:42
Barghuti+Dahlan+Qurea are already trying to get their hands on this money [28 words]AlanDec 26, 2007 06:22
Man's Life is the standard of value for man [138 words]Ralph C Whaley MDDec 27, 2007 22:42
"Objections to Ayn Rand's Objectivist Ethics" [1089 words]Lactantius Jr.Dec 30, 2007 12:43

Comment on this item

Name
Email Address (optional)
Title of Comments
Comments:

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened for relevance, substance, and tone, and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome, but comments are rejected if scurrilous, off-topic, vulgar, ad hominem, or otherwise viewed as inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the Guidelines for Comments. For informational purposes, we identify countries from which comments are sent.

See the 25 most recent outstanding comments.

ADVERTISEMENTS

All materials written by Daniel Pipes on this site © Daniel Pipes. Email: meqmef@aol.com