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Uniting to Exclude Saudi Arabian Airlines
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Submitted by Lori Swanberg (United States), Sep 8, 2007 at 14:35

I find the idea that we should even attempt to control what the Saudis or any other nations wish to include in its laws and bylaws, as long as it is not a path to the murder of other ethnic or religious groups, to be arrogant and contrary to what so much of the "western world" is trying to achieve. I think the Saudi's can do what ever they like in a commercial endeavor and nobody has the right to tell them otherwise.

However, all other countries also have the rights to equally stringent laws and bylaws. I find the Saudis' attitude horribly insulting and offensive. I think that if other governments or their citizens find this policy contrary to their own national laws and culture and business practices then they should back up their beliefs with their money.

If all the nations involved, those with airports, international or otherwise, choose to disallow Saudi planes access to their airports on a freedom and a human rights basis as long as they persist with these rules of their own, than the Saudi's might rethink their policy. However, to force them in any way TO ALLOW them to continue this practice helps to tie their hand in profiling every person who enters their country; and this is a valid point to be made too any who do wish to enter Saudi soil for any reason, business or personal, but it also besides the point and merely a thought.

I do understand that business is business and it must be allowed to proceed but that is what trains and busses are for, of course as they must have equally offensive rules and if so then the Saudis' can simply accustom themselves to doing business outside their own borders so that these offensive articles do not enter their through their borders and onto their sovereign soil, which is their sovereign right. That would solve the problem effectively and make a point to them by a very passive means. It would also require the co-operation of many nations, many of whom really do not care.

In today's international society, with so many different battles to fight and on so many different issues, we do not need overly stressful solutions if they can be helped. We have enough tinder to spark the fire of war for a plethora of reasons both rational and irrational at a moments notice and throw us all into WW3. It is a fire that ,although unfortunately inevitable, will burn us all. But our $$$$$$$$ speaks it's own language, allow it to speak, allow it to roar. Allow it to set some international policy of it's own. But to do this we must be willing to spend more of OUR $$$$$$ on whatever the financial consequences are. WE MUST BE WILLING TO DO THIS. And if we are willing, then, and only then, can we petition and hopefully force our governments into this uncomfortable position, one they should have the had moral strength to have taken on their own, but well governments being governments, who are we kidding.

If we do not force the issue with the most powerful tool on earth, our own $$$$$$$$$, then it is we who choose to do nothing.


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The issue is different [62 words]nicolaJan 24, 2009 05:40
Muslims are the Liability to the whole World. [152 words]AyeshaJul 26, 2008 14:30
MUSLIMS ARE NOT A LIABILITY TO ANY NATION WHATSOEVER. THEY ARE EDUCATED & RICH. [331 words]MohammadAug 7, 2008 14:33
George Bush and the SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY [130 words]dfwhite19438Apr 17, 2008 02:19
How to end Saudi religious discrimination [26 words]Jonathan D. SafrenMar 23, 2008 05:48
choices [155 words]shabaJan 1, 2008 13:28
Kingdom Has its Own Rule!! [36 words]JamalDec 21, 2007 18:24
wahhabism and khomeinism- two horns of the serpent [65 words]muslimNov 8, 2007 15:04
To Anti Muslim Comments ! [192 words]MalekSep 26, 2007 03:40
Two wrongs don't make a right [242 words]Muhammad SulemanFeb 27, 2008 16:08
Muslims should be isolated [42 words]Philippine CrusaderSep 21, 2007 02:28
⇒ Uniting to Exclude Saudi Arabian Airlines [542 words]Lori SwanbergSep 8, 2007 14:35
Saudi Airlines having financial problems? [67 words]MattSep 5, 2007 22:05
Overblown Confidence & The Saudis [214 words]TommySep 5, 2007 20:12
Referenced paragraph deleted [143 words]SteveAug 31, 2007 21:41
Saudis Without Oil [38 words]DobutsuAug 30, 2007 00:59
More reasons to BAN Islam [45 words]DaveAug 29, 2007 20:51
Saudi Pretensions [71 words]John WeberAug 29, 2007 16:07
Save them the trouble: [5 words]GarvinAug 29, 2007 10:25
Muslims demanding separate changing rooms for sports and swimming, single sex classes for sex education, prayer rooms and new rights to Islamic worship, and different uniform rules for Muslim Students in UK [357 words]DMAug 28, 2007 17:44
Start a fund [54 words]KeithAug 28, 2007 15:11
Saudi Arabia is a liability to Islam and Muslims [39 words]AshrafAug 28, 2007 11:49
Saudis are upholders of true spirit of islam [809 words]PlatoAug 30, 2007 02:22
Plato Takes Verses Out of Context [120 words]AshrafSep 2, 2007 23:38
To Asharaf:The context gambit all over again. [1052 words]PlatoSep 4, 2007 10:10
Let us not use context at all then [295 words]AshrafSep 7, 2007 23:47
To Asharaf: The odour from Surah 9 is stronger than the perfume in Surah 60. [40 words]PlatoSep 11, 2007 02:37
To Asharaf: The odour from Surah 9 is stronger than the perfume from Surah 60. Part II [60 words]PlatoSep 11, 2007 05:09
to [60 words]PlatoSep 11, 2007 22:17
To Asharaf: The odour from Surah 9 is stronger than the perfume from Surah 60. (Repeat) I [1865 words]PlatoSep 12, 2007 23:18
Stand up to these offensive "people" [166 words]DesmondAug 27, 2007 09:28
Revealing the Truth of the Bible [49 words]M. ToveyAug 26, 2007 18:45
CAPTIVE AUDIENCE [250 words]Abu NuwasAug 26, 2007 14:03
Malaysian Muslim Anger Over Movie [168 words]OrinaAug 25, 2007 11:15
too bad !! [159 words]kim segarAug 26, 2007 10:50
Muslims offended by " Footballs" !! [303 words]ImmiAug 26, 2007 13:33
When getting offended becomes second nature... [93 words]JaladhiAug 26, 2007 19:51
Make "Footballs" with Flags of only Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia , Iran , Pakistan , Syria , Sudan , Somalia ,etc and distribute Free in countries suffering from Islamic Terrorism [94 words]RomaAug 27, 2007 02:04
That soccer ball story is so discouraging [77 words]Charles MartelAug 28, 2007 13:28
Oh My God ! Muslims got offended once again and started mini Intifada [220 words]ZamiraAug 30, 2007 07:46
"Valley of the Wolves Iraq"- the most expensive, rabidly anti-American, anti-Semitic Turkish movie [338 words]IanusAug 30, 2007 17:33
not surprised [259 words]shaynaAug 31, 2007 12:37
I enjoyed watching Valley of the wolves [30 words]SSDec 25, 2007 17:59
I enjoyed watching Valley of the wolves [95 words]IanusDec 29, 2007 07:29
Free Will VS. Global Caliphate [168 words]InfosifterAug 25, 2007 10:16
please start an online petition?? Dr Pipes?
[w/response] [44 words]
ASAug 25, 2007 06:35
Unrealistic expectaion [249 words]MWAug 25, 2007 00:49
Saudi Money & CNN & FOX & The UN &10 Downing Street & White House(Saudi de facto controls all five) [126 words]James BurkeAug 24, 2007 16:22
Saudi Money & CNN & FOX & The UN &10 Downing Street & White House(Saudi de facto controls all five) + the military and industrial complex [139 words]IanusAug 30, 2007 15:51
the long term solution [26 words]RandyAug 24, 2007 15:53
Great idea, Daniel [83 words]ProudInfidelAug 24, 2007 11:51
Uniting to exclude saudi arabian airlines [182 words]Kim SegarAug 24, 2007 10:25
Reply to Kim Segar's remarks [158 words]shaynaAug 26, 2007 16:41
exclude saudi arabian airlines [488 words]kim segarAug 27, 2007 00:44
Modern Islam and Memories of the Iran Hostage Crisis [189 words]Jerry HAug 29, 2007 02:24
religious freedom [93 words]shabaJan 1, 2008 13:44
Lack of faith in mohammedism [53 words]John C.Aug 23, 2007 23:08
I'm Blowing Off My Cross [21 words]lindaAug 23, 2007 22:49
we all muslims stand behind the saudi govt on that issue [40 words]syed mohammad aliAug 23, 2007 12:42
"we all muslims stand behind the saudi govt on that issue" - a moderate Muslim says [59 words]IanusAug 23, 2007 18:03
What else would one expect from a Islamist? [158 words]Mel LarawayAug 23, 2007 21:57
watch out what you say saeed!! [230 words]HarrakAug 24, 2007 01:35
You Contradict Muhammad and the Qur'an Syed [299 words]Lactantius JrAug 24, 2007 09:07
To Syed Mohammed Ali: That is blasphemy! [120 words]PlatoAug 24, 2007 09:43
All Wahabi Sheikhs from Pure Country of Saudi are enjoying pleasures of Western World in Dubai ! [229 words]FatemAug 24, 2007 09:51
The purity of Islam... [123 words]donvanAug 24, 2007 10:17
Pure? [14 words]Jorge CordovaAug 24, 2007 15:51
There's a better way, Mohammed [68 words]DonAug 24, 2007 16:26
Double Standards [457 words]HarveyAug 24, 2007 19:09
saudi govt exporting hate all over the globe by petro dollers [250 words]JohnAug 25, 2007 02:43
Educated and Sane Muslims will never agree with the fascist attitude of Saudi Royals. [40 words]Khaleelur RahmanAug 25, 2007 10:52
Story of little five year old boy Youssif for Syed!!! [421 words]JaladhiAug 25, 2007 12:11
reply to syed mohammad ali, [121 words]shaynaAug 26, 2007 16:50
good to know [120 words]EsmeraldaAug 28, 2007 03:02
"Which prophet?" [84 words]Lactantius Jr.Aug 28, 2007 08:51
Syed, A great article you and all muslims must read about Quran [14 words]N.K.Aug 28, 2007 15:36
Reply to Esmeralda [549 words]shaynaAug 28, 2007 18:00
ouf, what an example of word .. [85 words]EsmeraldaAug 30, 2007 02:59
Reply to Esmeralda [407 words]shaynaAug 30, 2007 17:10
islam is not the reason why the violence is in this world [84 words]afafSep 29, 2008 14:44
The West's cowardice [129 words]Mike RandallAug 23, 2007 11:30
no saudi arabian airline in america and the west [50 words]TIRDAD GHARIBAug 23, 2007 08:41
Govt & Media will never support a ban on Saudi -The West needs another Saudi 9/11 day. Maybe two. [163 words]James BurkeAug 23, 2007 04:30
How about Saudi Arabia's option #4? [18 words]IdoAug 23, 2007 04:19
Are you kidding me?
[w/response] [101 words]
Leah ShalekAug 23, 2007 02:39
Reply to Leah Shalek blinded comments [521 words]shaynaAug 28, 2007 11:10
Moslem women [224 words]IanusAug 28, 2007 17:32
reply to Ianus [393 words]shaynaAug 28, 2007 18:27
A few things [452 words]IanusAug 30, 2007 16:37
Who will bell the Cat [116 words]Salvador FernandesAug 23, 2007 00:21
Hypocrecy [60 words]Fahad MohammedAug 22, 2007 22:22
Uniting to exclude Saudi Airlines [252 words]barbaraAug 22, 2007 20:55
state sponsored hate. [183 words]Phil GreendAug 22, 2007 20:09
Where do I sign up? [72 words]Anne JulienneAug 22, 2007 17:27
Saudi Arabian intolerance [179 words]Kenneth T. TellisAug 22, 2007 17:24
question .. [92 words]HarrakAug 22, 2007 15:15
Saudi Ristrictions identical to South African Restrictions under Apartheid Regime at its Worst!! [35 words]David GoshenAug 22, 2007 12:57
The Arab racists' & Islamic bigots' campaign at: DURBAN - racists cry "racism" [2875 words]MayOct 27, 2008 09:53
Thanks Dr Pipes for having the courage to tackle WAHABOFACISM [123 words]HarrakAug 22, 2007 12:11
What we dish out, will be dished out to us [86 words]David W. LincolnAug 22, 2007 11:45
"hospitable, welcoming and tolerant?" [642 words]Lactantius Jr.Aug 22, 2007 11:33
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"How do you know Khaled?" [324 words]Lactantius Jr.Aug 24, 2007 05:21
Saudi Arabia: Awash in Western money and technology [250 words]RickAug 22, 2007 11:30
Two years ago, Saudis specifically banned "Jewish people" from their airlines and their country [210 words]Dr RJPAug 22, 2007 11:05
How about a Saudi-Iranian war ? [70 words]IanusAug 22, 2007 16:42
Saudi Kingdom and the native Arabians and Jews [184 words]HarrakAug 22, 2007 21:19
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Saudi - Iranian War will be the best Idea to crush this rising monster of Islamism [427 words]GlobalAug 27, 2007 23:03
Saudi - Iranian War will be the best Idea to crush this rising monster of Islam [293 words]IanusAug 28, 2007 17:07
We can ask IMF and Work Bank to subsidise for their one way tickets to fight Jehad against each other ! [551 words]RushdieAug 28, 2007 18:04
Uniting to Exclude Saudi Arabian Airlines [92 words]EmilyAug 22, 2007 08:53
Be careful what you ask for. You might just get it!
[w/response] [52 words]
There is NO Santa ClausAug 22, 2007 08:34
Muslim Country Airlines are the safest Airlines in the World ! [112 words]TinaAug 28, 2007 18:11
Why stop there [109 words]Yuval brandstetter MDAug 22, 2007 05:38
Excellent Point Yuval [97 words]YnnatchkahAug 22, 2007 16:24
Bizzaro.... [144 words]Kamel KrazieAug 22, 2007 04:03
Who will take the lead to confront Saudi discrimination, arrogance, and repression? [161 words]YnnatchkahAug 22, 2007 02:39
"FLY ME"-TO SAUDI ARABIA? [77 words]DAVID R. GROESBECKAug 22, 2007 01:47
'I am a moderate Muslim! "FLY ME"-TO SAUDI ARABIA' ? [88 words]IanusAug 23, 2007 18:14
Justice Justice Thou Shall Pursue [88 words]David SabghirAug 22, 2007 00:11
Personal policy and freedom [64 words]SharonAug 21, 2007 20:47
How to put pressure [26 words]Mohsen KhalilAug 21, 2007 19:18
Great idea [65 words]Jonathan UsherAug 21, 2007 18:43
Force the Issue [160 words]Dr. Richard BenkinAug 21, 2007 18:41
re Saudia Air and measures to stop its religious discrimination [111 words]Jascha KesslerAug 21, 2007 18:32
obsequious [16 words]alan wintersAug 21, 2007 16:48
Ah the Saudis [125 words]dfwhite19438Aug 21, 2007 16:33
Neither knowing nor caring to know - you write with malicious intent...
[w/response] [290 words]
Ken BumgarnerAug 21, 2007 16:31
Ken Bumgarner or Kamal Bengamrah, A Wahabi Christian! [160 words]HarrakAug 27, 2007 23:01
reply to Ken Bumgarner [361 words]shaynaAug 29, 2007 19:13
Happening for a long time in the airports [76 words]SunilAug 21, 2007 16:28
Because they Enjoin the Good and Forbid the Evil- Mr Sunil [31 words]non jew non christianAug 22, 2007 13:29
Two sayings [47 words]IanusAug 22, 2007 13:33
Indeed, who will tie the bell around the Saudi Cats neck? [505 words]Lloyd L KleinAug 21, 2007 16:24
By The End of the Day. [176 words]YnnatchkahAug 22, 2007 13:00
By The End of the Day. [103 words]IanusAug 22, 2007 16:30
Ianus- A question of Lobby.- To Stop saudis. [260 words]YnnatchkahAug 22, 2007 21:47
Blood for oil [463 words]HomefrontAug 27, 2007 22:28
Saudi Crude the source of trouble and the solution [22 words]YnnatchkahAug 28, 2007 16:44
Reciprocation [10 words]AlertAug 21, 2007 16:11
It's about time! [72 words]Anthony P. MarinoAug 21, 2007 15:56
wait till the oil wells dry-up!!! [22 words]prakash tirupatiAug 21, 2007 21:24
A good comment from Dec. 2006 on this article [653 words]IanusAug 21, 2007 15:42
Be straight forward , No need to be too much Politically Correct anymore [126 words]LewisAug 22, 2007 02:03
It gets worse [228 words]Denis MacEoinAug 21, 2007 15:38
The Unanswerable Question [348 words]Rebecca MouldsAug 21, 2007 15:12
Apart from these--how about faxing, emailing [71 words]HarryAug 21, 2007 21:30
Let's think first before moving too fast [39 words]Rebecca MouldsAug 22, 2007 19:02
Citizen Action is the Path [106 words]JoeAug 21, 2007 14:42
Civil disobedience [43 words]DianeAug 21, 2007 14:40
Where is the ACLU or the pretend Saudi version of the ACLU? [19 words]HARI IYERAug 23, 2007 00:39
Excluding SAA [119 words]Steven LAug 21, 2007 14:31
Begin with Saudia and also check other muslim airlines and rules. [32 words]RussiAug 21, 2007 14:25
We fly with muslims you follow our rules... [95 words]junaid mojadidiOct 26, 2009 06:53
Take a Flight with Saudia with Ham Sandwiches and Bottle of Alcohol ! [146 words]DemocratAug 21, 2007 14:22
Ridicule May Be Far More Effective Than Outrage [111 words]Louis RosenblumAug 23, 2007 17:18
Best To Ban Saudi Arabian Airlines In The West [38 words]AnneMAug 21, 2007 14:08
What is the international decorum? [43 words]GodotAug 21, 2007 13:59
Mein Kampf is full of hatred and incites Genocide same as Koran so both the books should be banned. [66 words]IndianAug 22, 2007 02:08
Mein Kampf is full of hatred and incites Genocide same as Koran so both the books should be banned. [33 words]IanusAug 30, 2007 17:54
Ianus, I wonder if you would care to join the conversation... [68 words]saraOct 31, 2007 19:55
Saudia airlies logo [12 words]alanAug 21, 2007 13:44
Reducing Saudi Influence via Iraq & Afghanistan [478 words]RPaineAug 21, 2007 13:42
Because there is NO freedom of Religion in Saudia [31 words]David WinkelmannAug 21, 2007 13:34
Saudia is a NOT a Democracy. [18 words]Lahori FighterAug 21, 2007 13:29
Blame the US government [96 words]William HohageAug 21, 2007 13:19
Let Saudia Know what we want [16 words]Bob TankelAug 21, 2007 13:13
They want their cake and eat it too.. [79 words]jbennettAug 21, 2007 13:05
Another reason to ban Air Saudi [64 words]DaveAug 21, 2007 12:53
It's possible!!! [57 words]JaladhiAug 21, 2007 15:52
boycott their airlines [94 words]surjAug 21, 2007 16:33
Never thought of the Kamikaze as Aircrew Policy [92 words]Charles MartelAug 24, 2007 11:05
Just a temporary (and futile) gesture [248 words]PatAug 21, 2007 12:42
No more mosques in the West [98 words]Janusz KowalikAug 21, 2007 12:28
Oh cut it out! [148 words]Follower-of-IsaAug 26, 2007 15:24
Our dear Follower of Isa and his logic [167 words]dhimmi no moreAug 29, 2007 07:19
Business is war :-) [23 words]Charles SmythAug 21, 2007 11:07
Scandalous [94 words]VijayAug 21, 2007 10:25
Let 'em do what they want [64 words]contraryDec 22, 2008 15:08
It's about time... [153 words]JaladhiAug 21, 2007 10:25

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