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To Fred Schlomka: Your "Middle Eastern" Construct is clear. Forgive me if "I pass."

Reader comment on item: My Testimony before the House Subcommittee on Israeli-Palestinian Negotiations
in response to reader comment: some comments for Mariana

Submitted by mariana (United States), Apr 4, 2007 at 17:03

mariana 4/4/07
To Fred Schlomka: Your "Middle Eastern" Construct is clear. Forgive me if "I pass."

Mr. Fred: Thank you for your offer to "google you;" I will graciously decline, preferring this particular, comfortable venue. We have gotten far afield of Daniel's Testimony on Israel-Palestine relations; but, maybe not. If the number of Israeli's feeling as you do is significant, then Israel is lost, and those Kadima morons ruining Israel might as well close up shop and start giving out plane tickets to Israel's modern Jews, so they can emigrate to some other modern, 1st world, democratic, Hi-Tech, 21st Century society.

Now that I understand, clearly, what you mean by "being Middle Eastern," it seems to me that you DO believe that you are "a special Jew" and that you will, some where down the line, be "treated differently" by the lunatic mobs lusting for Israel [if the "Palestinian Arabs" or "Israeli Arabs" also, from the sound of their proposed "Constitution"] were permitted to do so.

Your reference to the "Crusades" I will not discuss here at all, because clearly, your use of the word "Crusades," was meant to deliberately inflame, and I'm not interested in playing that game.

Your characterization of life in America is amazingly twisted; as probably, is your PollyAnna view of the results your Rise and World take-over by "Middle Eastern Values," would accomplish. You've maligned, mis-characterized and scorned all of Western Civilization and the Enlightenment one way or another, craving the "Civilization" centuries before even the Italian Renaissance. Sounds about like the kind of "civilization" the UN Overlords administered, any place they go.

That your Joys of Utopian Life under a[n Enlightened?] Caliphate refers, at best to a very tiny Elite consisting of less than 5% of the Worlds population at the time [of course, you'll be part of that 5%], with most humans held as "subjects," tenant farmers or in serfdom at best, is also amazing. Or will these benign Muslims run the game differently this time? Yes, you have to use the words Muslim/Islam [not just Middle Eastern] because Muslims constitute 220 Millions, and many of them live under Sharia. How many Hundreds of Thousands of the 220 Million Arab Muslims in the Middle East live well today under "Enlightened Middle Easterners??" Or is it just a few Tens of Thousands? And how many manage to eek out a meagre existence, at best, under the fiat of tyrannical princes or thugs? And how to you see the NEW CALIPHATE operating?

That your criticism of America required you to go back to the Slavery practiced during American Revolutionary and Civil Wars [without mentioning either that Slavery was practiced worldwide at that time or that the Civil War - under Republican American President Abraham Lincoln - was fought mid 19th Century, largely to end the SLAVERY which bothered you so much in America], is also interesting. A lot of white American boys [including Jews] fought and lost their lives and limbs in that war. The SLAVERY going on TODAY, all over the Middle East you've idealized and all over Muslim parts of Africa and Asia, apparently, BOTHERS YOU NOT AT ALL!

If that EastCoast US City you lived in was NY, it was certainly before NYC Republican Mayor Rudi Giuliani battled the inbred Lib/Democrat entrenched city government, police, schools, and mentality, and made the "welfare city" into a desirable place to live [also helped by 22 tax cuts during those 8 years]. Enforcing Laws, putting dangerous, anti-social animals in jail or killing them works "on the E. Coast of the US;" just as IDF, Mossad & Shin Bet make it work in one small corner of the Middle East.

Oh, Mr. Fred. It's a lovely dream world you live in: Just like the "1001 Arabian Nights" Sir Richard Burton chronicled. It's nice to create a Construct, label it, declare it's extant or will be, and then, not only insist it's where you live, but essentially foist it upon everyone else in your "Vision of the Future."

Whatever you're smoking, I'd like some. I have my own Construct that I'd like to move Everyone in the World into. This I guarantee. YOU and your children would have considerably more: personal Liberty, Freedom of Religion, Civil & Voting Rights, and Freedom of movement and action - in MY Construct, than I and mine would have in Yours. Ours is "One Nation, Under G*d," with Our Rights Descended to Each Individual from G*d and not from the State, Princes, Kings, Thugs or Caliphs.

We've reached an impasse. There is no point continuing because you are from Venus, and I am from Mars. Be well. mariana

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