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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jun 3, 2013 at 17:40

Our dear Huma and here we go again whose ancestors the Greeks and the Armenians and the Syrians were brutalized by the Turkish barbarians that invaded the Byzantine empire and to add insult to injury her ancestors had to convert the religion of the Arabs only right our dear Huma?

Allah allows Muslims to fight because they were under pressure and oppression.

Really? well let us see what it says in the Qur'an a book that you cannot read in Arabic

How about: كتب عليكم القتال and you will find it in سورة البقرة 216

I do not see anything in this vile verse about neither the word ضغط nor the word ظلم so you see darling your claim so far is bogus

For the readers: the above aya is the foundation of holy war in Islam as you shall see

Oh I see the Arabic! But you can ask your Mullah if he knows Arabic to tell you what it says

How come you did not know that?

In other words,

There are other words? Masha'allah

the concept of war that is allowed is not for attacking but for defensive purposes.

Really? so where would i find in the Qur'an anywhere where it says that ان الحرب ممنوعة في حالة الغزو والاعتداء وان الحرب مسموحة في حالة الدفاع فقط

You will not find it and so far your claims are ridiculous

There are also other verses in the Quran warning Muslims to avoid an unnecessary provocation or a violent practice…

Really? where?

To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight ), because they are wronged;- and verily, Allah (God) is most powerful for their aid;-(Surat Al-Hajj,39)

Really? so did you hear about the four stages of Jihad darling? Here is what your master Sheikh al-Azhar tells us about it

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Mar 24, 2013 at 10:10

Dr. Pipes

Again I invite all readers to read about what the Islamic sources tell us about the four stages of al-jihad and readers can use the tool in google crome "translate" and google translation is not the best but it for sure will give the readers the flavor of what is really al-jihad and its 4 stages and here is the text in Arabic so no Muslim can say that we kuffar do not read their Islamic sources in Arabic and it is an old post of mine

مراحل الجهاد في الاسلام

والمتبع لمراحل تشريع الجهاد في الإسلام يعلم أنه مر بمراحل:
المرحلة الأولى: مرحلة الكف والإعراض والصفح حيث كان القتال محرمًا، قال -تعالى-: (أَلَمْ تَرَ إِلَى الَّذِينَ قِيلَ لَهُمْ كُفُّواْ أَيْدِيَكُمْ وَأَقِيمُواْ الصَّلاَةَ وَآتُواْ الزَّكَاةَ فَلَمَّا كُتِبَ عَلَيْهِمُ الْقِتَالُ إِذَا فَرِيقٌ مِّنْهُمْ يَخْشَوْنَ النَّاسَ كَخَشْيَةِ اللّهِ أَوْ أَشَدَّ خَشْيَةً) (النساء:77).
عن ابن عباس -رضي الله عنهما- أَنَّ عَبْدَ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنَ عَوْفٍ، وَأَصْحَابًا لَهُ أَتَوْا النَّبِيَّ -صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ- بِمَكَّةَ فَقَالُوا: يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ، إِنَّا كُنَّا فِي عِزٍّ وَنَحْنُ مُشْرِكُونَ، فَلَمَّا آمَنَّا صِرْنَا أَذِلَّةً، فَقَالَ: (إِنِّي أُمِرْتُ بِالْعَفْوِ، فَلا تُقَاتِلُوا) فَلَمَّا حَوَّلَنَا اللَّهُ إِلَى الْمَدِينَةِ، أَمَرَنَا بِالْقِتَالِ، فَكَفُّوا، فَأَنْزَلَ اللَّهُ -عَزَّ وَجَلَّ-: (أَلَمْ تَرَ إِلَى الَّذِينَ قِيلَ لَهُمْ كُفُّواْ أَيْدِيَكُمْ) (النساء:77)، (رواه ابن جرير والنسائي، وصححه الألباني).
وقال ابن القيم -رحمه الله- عن هذه المرحلة: "والله -سبحانه- يأمرهم بالصبر والعفو والصفح حتى قويت الشوكة واشتد الجناح؛ فأذن لهم بالقتال، ولم يفرضه عليهم فقال: (أُذِنَ لِلَّذِينَ يُقَاتَلُونَ بِأَنَّهُمْ ظُلِمُوا وَإِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلَى نَصْرِهِمْ لَقَدِيرٌ) (الحج:39)" انتهى.
وهذه هي المرحلة الثانية: مرحلة الإذن بالقتال.
ثم المرحلة الثالثة: وهي الأمر بالقتال لمن قاتلهم دون مَن لم يقاتل، وذلك بقوله -تعالى-: (وَقَاتِلُواْ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ الَّذِينَ يُقَاتِلُونَكُمْ) (البقرة:190).
ثم المرحلة الرابعة: فرض عليهم قتال المشركين كافة بقوله -تعالى-: (وَقَاتِلُواْ الْمُشْرِكِينَ كَآفَّةً) (التوبة:36)، وقوله -تعالى-: (فَإِذَا انسَلَخَ الأَشْهُرُ الْحُرُمُ فَاقْتُلُواْ الْمُشْرِكِينَ حَيْثُ وَجَدتُّمُوهُمْ وَخُذُوهُمْ وَاحْصُرُوهُمْ وَاقْعُدُواْ لَهُمْ كُلَّ مَرْصَدٍ فَإِن تَابُواْ وَأَقَامُواْ الصَّلاَةَ وَآتَوُاْ الزَّكَاةَ فَخَلُّواْ سَبِيلَهُمْ) (التوبة:5)، وقوله -تعالى-: (قَاتِلُواْ الَّذِينَ لاَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللّهِ وَلاَ بِالْيَوْمِ الآخِرِ وَلاَ يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ اللّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَلاَ يَدِينُونَ دِينَ الْحَقِّ مِنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ الْكِتَابَ حَتَّى يُعْطُواْ الْجِزْيَةَ عَن يَدٍ وَهُمْ صَاغِرُونَ) (التوبة:29)، وقوله -تعالى-: (وَقَاتِلُوهُمْ حَتَّى لاَ تَكُونَ فِتْنَةٌ وَيَكُونَ الدِّينُ كُلُّهُ) (الأنفال:39).
وعن ابن عباس -رضي الله عنهما-، وأبي العالية، ومجاهد، والحسن، وقتادة، والربيع بن أنس، والسدي، ومقاتل بن حيان، وزيد بن أسلم: يعني حتى لا يكون شرك.
وقال النبي -صلى الله عليه وسلم-: (أُمِرْتُ أَنْ أُقَاتِلَ النَّاسَ حَتَّى يَقُولُوا: لا إِلَهَ إِلا اللهُ، فَإِذَا قَالُوا: لا إِلَهَ إِلا اللهُ عَصَمُوا مِنِّي دِمَاءَهُمْ، وَأَمْوَالَهُمْ إِلا بِحَقِّهَا، وَحِسَابُهُمْ عَلَى اللهِ) (متفق عليه).
وهذه المرحلة الأخيرة هي التي استقر عليها الأمر في معاملة المسلمين للكفار مِن جميع الأجناس -أهل الكتاب وغيرهم-، وقال أكثر السلف بنسخ آيات الموادعة والصفح والعفو.
ولا يختلف العلماء مِن "المذاهب الأربعة"، وغيرهم على أنه يلزم المسلمين عند القدرة ابتداء الكفار بالقتال، ولو لم يقاتل الكفار المسلمين -وهذا جهاد الطلب-، مع لزوم جهاد الدفع بالإجماع.
ورغم أن المستقر عند الفقهاء المرحلة الأخيرة؛ إلا أن عامتهم يصرح بأن حكم المراحل السابقة لم يزل بالكلية، بل يُعمل بها عند الحاجة.

It is all in black and white and notice that in stage four it is UNCONDITIONAL warfare against the kuffar as per Q9:36 and the infamous ayat al-sayf or the sword verse or Q9:5

So who are really al-kuffar? It is very clear that they must be the Jews (as per Q9:30) and the Christians (as per Q9:30) and the Hindus and Zoroastrians and Buddhists (as per Q9:5) or against the rest of humanity

So here are the two verses that are the foundation of unconditional war fare in Islam

1. Ayat al-Sayf or Q9:5

2. Q9:36

More information about the four stages of jihad?

http://www.al-eman.com/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%83%D8%AA%D8%A8/%D9%85%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%B9%D8%A9%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D9%82%D9%87%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%8A/i582&d921700&n263&c&p1

I do not see anything about Ahmad Rehab's bogus claim that jihad means exercise or friendship or dieting!

Shame on our leaders that need to do their home work before they tell us that jihad is a spiritual thing and anyone who says that is about war is an islamophobe because if this is true then the authors of these Muslim literary sources are also islamophobes

These are your Islamic sources and my source is no other than your master Shiekh al-Azhar

http://www.alazhar.gov.eg/islam/Quran/qurandb/QuranTopics.asp?ID=347

How come you did not know that? Your little aya was abrogated by ayat al-sayf!

So far your claims and references are ridiculous

(They are) those who have been expelled from their homes in defiance of right,- (for no cause) except that they say, "our Lord is Allah..(Surat Al-Hajj,40)

Now you tell me:

1. Your Allah says that this life is about القضاء والقدر right darling?

2. Then how come your Allah would plan to have his followers being expelled from their home? You tell me unless there is no Allah or your Allah is not omnipotent or Allah wants war so he can get his share of the loot as he is supposed to get 1/5 of the loot as per surat al-Anfal right darling? Or could it be because your Allah loves that his followers terrorize the rest of humanity as in Q8:60 you tell me

Fight in the cause of Allah (God) those who fight you ,

Really? well let us take the case of the people of India your Allah had no clue about neither India nor its religions and you tell me why did Muslims invade India? you tell me what did the Hindus do to your maters the Muslims that invaded India where 90M Hindus were killed on cold blood? what did the Hindus that your Allah had no clue about them did to your so called Allah or his so called rasul? you tell me

Hint: the answer is the four stages of jihad! See why you have to know Arabic?

but do not transgress limits: for Allah (God) loveth not transgressors.(Surat Al-Baqara , 190

Oh can you tell us kuffar what is ayat al-sayf all about? and how about the Armenian children that were killed in the Armenian genocide? how do you justify such crime?

I urge you to leave islam and be free from the Arabs and their imperialism

As for Erdogan? He just said that the Byzantine empire was a dark page! Oh the self hate!

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