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Alcohol and the Qur'an and the disaster of al-nasikh wa al-mansukh!

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Mar 23, 2013 at 07:30

I think it is funny when the bogus claims of tablighees are exposed but they come back for more

The author of the Quran is a little bit smarter than you are.

Really? Qutham aka Abul Qasim was "a little bit" smarter than me? Sobhanallah! You think that i should tell your wahhabi masters that you our dear Ali Baba is saying that their Allah is only "a little bit smarter" than me? What do you think would happen to you? Hint: Riots?

After all, he is a man who transformed a rag tag bunch of desert heathens into the largest empire the world had yet seen.

Oh yeah an Arabian warlord and caravan raider and he and his minions were responsible for the largest genocide in the history of humanity where 90M Hindus your ancestors were killed and enslaved and raped by your masters the Muslims that invaded India right? But why should you care about your own ancestors? Right?

So much for Arabian imperialism

The Quran doesn't say that alcohol is totally good or totally bad.

Wrong! Read it one more time: surat al-nahl 67

ومن ثمرات النخيل والاعناب تتخذون منه سكرا ورزقا حسنا ان في ذلك لاية لقوم يعقلون

Or and from the fruits of the plam trees and the grapes you take from it fermented (drinks) and better wealth/sustenence and truly this is a sign for people that have sense

So let me help you

1. Your Allah says that it is OK to drink alcohol so do you disagree with Allah our dear Ali Baba?

2. That drinking alcohol has benefits and i'm not the one who is saying that right our dear Ali Baba al-tablighee?

3. Allah is also saying that alcohol is a sign for people that have sense which means that you do not have sense our dear Ali Baba

What a disaster Allah is saying that alcohol is fine and dandy and good for you so you and I need to go to the nearest bar and have a drink after all Allah and not me is saying that alcohol is great

And who says that Islam is not ridiculous

The quran merely states that alcohol has some benefits, but is mostly harmful...

Which does it say in the above verse: ان شرب الخمرة يضر صحتكم

You will not find it but you will find ومن ثمرات النخيل والاعناب تتخذون منه سكرا ورزقا حسنا ان في ذلك لاية لقوم يعقلون which means that Allah or it is Qutham the PUBH is saying that it is OK to drink alcohol and that it is good for you

So what do you think that Muhammad ordered on his little Buraq flight for a drink? Any guesses?

Even Muhammad loved to drink wine or nabidh and the credit goes to faithfreedom and here are the ahadith where Abul Qasim loved to drink alcohol

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 4:13 pm Post subject: Proof that Muhammad was a wine-drinker!!!

Nabidh is the Arabic word for wine.

Sahih Muslim, Book 23, Number 4989:
Jabir b 'Abdullah reported: We were with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and lie asked for water. A person said: Allah's Messenger, may we not give you Nabidh to drink? He (the Holy Prophet) said: Yes (you may). He (the narrator) said : Then that person went out speedily and brought a cup containing Nabidh, whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Why did you not cover it ? - even if it is with a wood. He said that then he drank it.

Sahih Muslim, Book 23, Number 4971:
Ibn 'Abbas reported that Nabidh was prepared for Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) in the beginning of the night and he would drink it in the morning and the following night and the following day and the night after that up to the afternoon. If anything was left out of that he gave it to his servant, or gave orders for it to be poured out.

Sahih Muslim, Book 23, Number 4972:
Ibn 'Abbas reported that Nabidh was prepared for Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) in the waterskin, Shu'ba said: It was the night of Monday. He drank it on Monday and on Tuesday up to the afternoon, and If anything was left out of it he gave it to his servant or poured it out.

Sahih Muslim, Book 23, Number 4974:
Ibn Abbas reported that Nabidh was prepared from raisins for Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) in the waterskin and he would drink it on that day and on the next day and the day following and when It was the evening of the third day, and he would drink it and give it to (his Companions) and if something was left over, he threw that away.

Sahih Muslim, Book 23, Number 4976:
Thumama (i.e. Ibn Hazn al-Qushairi) reported: I met 'A'isha and asked her about Nabidh (that was served to the Holy Prophet). 'A'isha called an Abyssinian maid (servant) and said: Ask her (about it) for it was he, who prepared the Nabidh for the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him). The Abyssinian (maid-servant) said: I prepared Nabidh for him in a waterskin in the night and tied its mouth and then suspended it; and when it was morning he (the Holy Prophet) drank from it.

Sahih Muslim, Book 23, Number 4977:
'A'isha reported: We prepared Nabidh for Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) in a waterskin, the upper part of which was tied and it (the waterskin) had a hole (in its lower part). We prepared the Nabidh in the morning and he drank it in the evening and we prepared the Nabidh in the night, and he would drink it in the morning.

Sahih Muslim, Book 23, Number 4982:
Anas reported: I served drink to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) in this cup of mine: honey, Nabidh, water and milk

So should we kuffar emualte you the lost tablighee or should we emulate the so called prophet of Allah Qutham the PUBH? you tell me

What a disaster

something that modern medicine backs up rather emphatically.

Really? where? But as I have established that eating halal meat can be bad for you right?

The Quran is very careful in generally avoiding absolute statements.

Wrong. In the case of alcohol it seems that Allah kept changing his mind from alcohol being good to alcohol being forbidden and this is why we have the Allah changing his mind doctrine of al-naskh wa al-mansukh

What a disaster

Are you also aware that the Shi3a say that Omar Ibn al-Khatab was not just a sodomite but alos an alcoholic? so is that true our dear Ali Baba who lives among us kuffar?

In this it differs from most religious texts and offers a testament to its uniqueness.

The Qur'an is no more than poor literature that is full of mistakes in grammar and syntax and poor violent theology!

I urge you to leave Islam and get a grip on reality

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