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Shaji: However much you may twist and turn you cannot escape the truth that Islam is false

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Submitted by Plato (India), Apr 14, 2009 at 03:54

Shaji, you wrote:

>>Yes, Qur'an said to kill "mushriqeen"………!!!!. But where….in the battlefield where those 'mushriqeen" come to fight to exterminate Muslims. If you remove the context, that is "battlefield", it could have satisfied your desire to portray "Islam spread by sword". Before you criticize, learn something Mr. dhimmi……<<

The verse does not mention battlefield. This is what it says:

009.005 YUSUFALI: But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

The verse says 'slay the pagans WHEREVER ye find them'. Does it sound like the Koran is talking only of the battle field?

You can also wait in ambush for them anywhere. You don't lie in wait for your enemy on the battlefield. The Koran is asking you to exterminate the unbelievers when the forbidden months are past.

>>If Mushrik had the option to either convert to Islam or killed by sword, why huge number of people of other faiths still living in Muslim part of the world….??. Muslims were the lords of Arabia for 1400 years. For a few years the British ruled, and for a few years the French ruled. Overall, the Muslims ruled Arabia for 1400 years. Yet today, there are over 22 million Arabs who are Coptic Christians.<<

The Copts are people of the book and were tolerated to live as dhimmis. The Arabian peninsula was almost entirely pagan idol worshippers. Can you find a single one there now? They were either put to the sword or converted. The only idol worshippers are the Arabs and other Muslims themselves who have to prostrate themselves facing a black stone and are required to go on pilgrimage to this place, kill millions of animals to please the Lord of this stone and run between two peaks which the Koran says are Allah's symbols (IDOLS):

002.158 YUSUFALI: Behold! Safa and Marwa are among the Symbols of Allah. So if those who visit the House in the Season or at other times, should compass them round, it is no sin in them………

>>Also, if Islam spread by sword, why there was no widespread killing at the time of Makkah victory, which became the turning point of the influx of people to Islam in early Islamic period…..??. Open your eyes and realize who is ignorant……!!!!.<<

Would anybody want to kill his own relatives and that of his followers? Mecca was full of blood relatives of the invaders. He did kill some who had ridiculed him.

If there was influx to Islam it was clearly because of the fear of Muhammad's sword. If you know your history, as soon as Muhammad died many tribes apostatized and Abu Bakr had to fight several wars (the ridda wars) to force them back into Islam.

Narrated Abu Huraira:When Allah's Apostle died and Abu Bakr became the caliph some Arabs renegade (reverted to disbelief) (Abu Bakr decided to declare war against them), 'Umar, said to Abu Bakr, "How can you fight with these people although Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight the people till they say: "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah, and whoever said it then he will save his life and property from me except on trespassing the law (rights and conditions for which he will be punished justly), and his accounts will be with Allah.' " Abu Bakr said, "By Allah! I will fight those who differentiate between the prayer and the Zakat as Zakat is the compulsory right to be taken from the property (according to Allah's orders) By Allah! If they refuse to pay me even a she-kid which they used to pay at the time of Allah's Apostle . I would fight with them for withholding it" Then 'Umar said, "By Allah, it was nothing, but Allah opened Abu Bakr's chest towards the decision (to fight) and I came to know that his decision was right."

Whose ignorance is showing, Shaji?

>>If you are a truth-seeker with good intentions, just explore through Qur'an without a prejudiced mind.<<

This means you have explored the Koran with unprejudiced mind and found it wonderful. What did your unprejudiced mind think when you read this verses 9:111 or 9:28 and 9:29. They made me look at all Muslims with suspicion.

>>Allah didn't make you infidel. HE has given you the freedom to select right from wrong. Nobody is Muslim because he born in Muslim family and follow principles against Islam.<<

I can see Islam has really penetrated your heart. Allah claims He is responsible for all creation. So an infidel is Allah's creation. Only Muslims seem unable to understand this simple logic. It is Allah who made you a believer, and dhimmi no more and me infidels.

>>When the person willfully chooses this ideology and submits his will to ONE and ONLY GOD, then only he becomes Muslim. So the CHOICE is yours……<<

How can there be a choice when Allah, the Exalted in Power, Wise, threatens the most horrendous punishment for disbelief?

004.056 YUSUFALI: Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire: as often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.

>>Coming to the issue of abrogation (nask wal mansukh), we need to understand one focal point, which is that Allah Almighty's knowledge covers everything.<<

It only because Allah's knowledge covers everything that His abrogating His own revelation makes Allah look ridiculous. The strength Allah has given His believers is a case in point:

008.065 YUSUFALI: O Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding.

008.066 YUSUFALI: For the present, Allah hath lightened your (task), for He knoweth that there is a weak spot in you: But (even so), if there are a hundred of you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred, and if a thousand, they will vanquish two thousand, with the leave of Allah: for Allah is with those who patiently persevere.

What was the point of revealing 8:65 if Allah knew that the task of fighting an enemy 10 times larger is futile even though booty and paradise greatly strengthened Muslims, and reduces believers' strength by a factor of five in the next verse ?

>>It is not subject to change because it is not limited by the boundaries of time. This means that when Allah Almighty reveals something in the Qur'an and later on gives a fresh command that adjusts the old one or cancels it, He surely knows already that He is going to reveal something to adjust the old command or cancel it. In other words, the new command is not new to Him; it is new to us because we have no access to His knowledge and we are bound by time limitations.<<

What you say cannot apply to a book which claims to be valid for all time. The underlined sentence means that the Koran was meant only for the Arabs who lived during the lifetime of the prophet. If commands had to be 'adjusted' to suit the context of the time how can they be timeless?

>>In the light of this, we can understand that Allah Almighty has already had knowledge that He is going to give a new command at a certain point in the life of people telling them to change their way of life or correct certain concepts in ways that suit the new stage.<<

This means Allah knew at the time He revealed a verse He would have to change it to suit changing circumstances and it indicates that the verses have significance only for times of the prophet. After the end of Allah's revelations the verses will have significance only if everything is frozen as they were at the time of the prophet's death.

>>Behind this, there is surely great divine wisdom, which sometimes we are aware of and sometimes we are not.<<

This is Mullah-speak. When the book that claims to be clear and easily understood becomes opaque you blame it on Allah's divine wisdom.

>>To illustrate this, let's think about a father whose five-year-old child asks him about the origin of life; where do males and females come from? At this point of the child's age, the most suitable answer will be something like "We come from Adam and Eve." But later on when this same child grows up, the simple answer will be abrogated by telling him about the mechanism of production and fertilization. This example gives a bit of an idea about how this process of abrogation works.<<

Taking this example to the development of human beings would mean that we as human beings stopped growing after Muhammad died.

>>As for Allah, His infinite knowledge neither has a start nor an end.<<

Allah in his infinite knowledge failed to put an end to end slavery. Muslims enjoyed taking and keeping slaves right into the twentieth century until kaffirs forced Muslims to abrogate Allah's verses that allow slavery.

>> Yet, here we need to ask, if that is what abrogation is like, what is the benefit or the wisdom of doing that?

In fact, scholars have counted a number of wisdoms behind abrogation. First, abrogation can happen as a way of gradual legislation that aims at making things easy for people.<<

Gradual legislation ended drinking of alcohol. Allah did not legislate to end slavery. Allah does not consider slavery to be a crime whereas alcohol and usury are. What is Allah's wisdom worth, Shaji?

>>Sometimes, Allah Almighty commands that a certain strict thing should be bserved and then alleviates it to make the life of people easier.<<

Allah took no measures to make the lives of slaves, especially slave-girls kept as concubines, easy. He said treat them well and release some as expiation for your sins and left it at that. There is nothing about slave keeping being abhorrent as He claimed alcohol and usury to be.

>>An example of this is when Allah Almighty commanded that anyone who wants to speak to the Prophet (peace be upon him) should offer something in charity. Later on, Allah (Glory be to Him) removed this requirement and just encouraged people to establish prayer and do good deeds.<<

Where was the need to remove this requirement as the prophet would die anyway and this verse would become redundant? This verse and the one abrogating it (which is this abrogating verse?) again shows that the Koran was specific to Muhammad's time and is superfluous in today's world.

>>But one may ask, "What is the point of this?" The answer is, there are many wisdoms behind it, one of which is to make people aware of the fact that Allah is merciful to them and that He looks after them and cares for their well-being.<<

Is it wisdom to tell people that they need not give charity? I thought charity was one of the pillars of Islam. My reading of this verse is the charity was actually meant for the prophet after he had squandered away Khadija's wealth. But after he became rich on the twenty percent he skimmed off all booty he had no need for charity and he had Allah give him a verse relieving his followers of this burden of maintaining him and his several wives and concubines.

>>Another wisdom is to refine the souls of people and train them on how to observe to higher levels of morality.<<

How does asking people not to give charity (even to a penurious prophet) lift them to higher levels of morality?

>>For instance, if your child is not studying hard and spending much time playing, you can discipline him saying, "You are not allowed to play anymore for the coming month." Later on, you may see that he has complied with the command and became very good in his studies, so what you do is to alleviate the restrictions and allow him to play for a certain number of hours. In this way, you create a balance in his life. In this exact way, Allah Almighty trains w

This is a childish example (why do Muslims come up with such fatuous examples?) This again tells us that the Koran was meant for the Arabs who lived in jahiliya. We have all grown up since the seventh century and Allah's verses (and indeed the Koran) stand abrogated by Time. Only Muslims who still live in the seventh century see any wisdom in Allah's verses.

>>Sometimes, abrogation comes to establish a certain ruling that needs to be established gradually because it is difficult for people to apply it completely. Suppose that you want a drug addict to give up drugs, it would be unpractical to ask him to give up right away. The most practical way will be to train him how to give up bit by bit. The same is applied in the Qur'an when Allah Almighty commanded the believing community to give up wine: He did not do that at one shot. Rather, Allah Almighty first spoke about wine and that it may be beneficial for some people (i.e. traders) but it has some greater harm. Later on, a new instruction came prohibiting any drunken man to engage in prayer and, in fact, that was stage two. Then, when the community was fully prepared to receive a final decision and were able to apply the law, Allah Almighty told them to avoid drinking wine completely and never approach it.<<

Great excuse for Allah's creative powers gone wrong. He creat people away from wine. But ed wine. Why did He. Or why did he make wine that would make people go crazy?

Allah thought up stage wise ways of weaning people away from wine. But His imagination seems to have failed when it came to the Muslims' addiction to slaves. Which is why slave-keeping continued until the twentieth century in the Prophet's homeland of Saudi Arabia.

>>I hope you got the idea of abrogation from the above explanation. There are many things more to be explained in this aspect but let me leave it for now and will present you as per your response, Insha Allah <<

I will welcome more explanations of Allah abrogating His own words. But so far you have only succeeded in making Allah look extremely silly.

>>Secondly, Islam is not the religion of Arabs. It is your misconception. See what Qur'an says in 3:84 - Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)."<<

This verse tells us that Allah's religion is meant only for the Semitic people as He has not named any prophet He sent to China or India.

>>Then why Qur'an and Prophet (peace be upon him) was required….??. Read Qur'aan 2:213 – "Mankind were one community, and ALLAH sent prophets as bearers of good tidings and as warners, and revealed therewith the Scripture with the truth, that it might judge between mankind concerning that wherein they differed. And only those unto whom (the Scripture) was given differed concerning it, after clear proofs had come unto them, through hatred one of another. And ALLAH by His Will guided those who believe unto the truth of that concerning which they differed. ALLAH guideth whom He will unto a straight path".<<

Do you see any wisdom in these verses? What I see is an Allah who does not know whether He is coming or going. Read the underlined sentences. Allah at first says He revealed the scripture to judge us about that which we differed. He later says that by His will He guided those who believe (Muslims) to the truth. This means Allah chooses to guide some to the truth and some He leaves straying. Allah is a capricious deity who makes no sense.

>>It is for us mankind require guidance to lead life which suits with nature. Allah's duty is to reveal the guidance (Qur'an) and to send Prophets for humankind to follow.<<

You are challenging many verses of the Koran which say Allah chooses to guide who He will. Allah claims his duty is to guide only those who take His fancy (Jews and later Muslims). Allah has not sent any prophet after Muhammad. The world has passed through more dire states than during the prophet's time. Why does He not abrogate the verse making Muhammad the seal of prophets and let us have the pleasure of more messengers to guide us?

>>I am not working against Allah's plan. Qur'an has the answer for this query. It says in 16:125 – "Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance." Hope you got why I sit with you and it depends on my convenience.<<

The Koran also says be hard on the unbelievers and fight them until they submit:

009.073 YUSUFALI: O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed.

009.029 YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

You should know that 16:125 was revealed in Mecca when he had not acquired armed might. As soon as he gathered a group of armed believers Allah's tone changes and He calls for violence against unbelievers. 9:29 and 9:73 were revealed in Madina.

>>So what I am doing is, as per instruction of Allah through HIS divine guidance, which is Qur'an.<<

The Koran instructs you thus:

009.111 YUSUFALI: Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.

Does this iron-clad contract that Allah signed with believers attract you, Shaji?

>>How adoring city of Makkah (or) kissing black stone (or) doing prostration on the earth's surface (or) ink and paper used to present Qur'an turned to worshipping that…..??. One can only say, it is a sense of respect shown to it. If I respect somebody, does that mean I am praying to him….??<<

That is exactly what idol-worshippers are doing, showing respect to their creator by worshipping his symbols and making offerings. Muslims are no different. They pray facing Mecca, run between Safa and Marwa which Allah claims to be His symbols and offer slaughtered animals as offerings.

>>At the time of the Prophet (peace be upon him) people even stood on the Kaaba and gave the 'adhaan' or the call to prayer. One may ask those who allege that Muslims worship the Kaaba; which idol worshipper stands on the idol he worships?<<

What has stopped people from doing the same now? You want to try the same trick of Bilal now and tell the people who are about to cut you into a million pieces that Muhammad himself allowed it.

Muslims venerate the black stone just as any idol-worshipper does. Come off your high horse, Muslims are also idol worshippers. Allah allows it in verse 2:158.

>>I can give you references from Hindu scriptures, instructing to worship unseen God.

1) "There is no image of Him" YajurVed 32:3

2) "He is bodyless and pure" Yajurved 40:8

5) "O friends, do not worship anybody but Him, the Divine One." Rigveda Book 8:1:1

I hope you will learn about Islam. If Allah wishes you will find the truth.<<

By quoting all that stuff from the Vedas you are telling us the truth that Hinduism is no different from Islam. Why then as an Indian don't you go back to your roots?

>>May Allah helps us to learn and follow the truth (Amen).<<

The TRUTH, my dear Shaji, is that whether there is one god, many gods or no god our lives are ours to live and fashion the way we want. Those who thus rise above the cruel injunctions and irrationality inherent in almost all religions are at peace with themselves and with their fellow beings.

Regards

Plato

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1White-washing of history can be a costly blunder! [747 words]B.N.GururajMar 14, 2009 00:02152244
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"Prophet of Doom" [88 words]Lactantius JrMar 17, 2009 03:48152244
why there is so much violence [61 words]SamMar 17, 2009 19:08152244
shaking the sheik - a classic [53 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 18, 2009 07:09152244
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"Whitewashed tombs" [617 words]Lactantius JrMar 18, 2009 19:55152244
Replies to prophetofdoom article [23712 words]ShajiMar 19, 2009 02:27152244
To Sam [100 words]M.A.Mar 19, 2009 18:01152244
famous Islamic preachers [588 words]the Grand Infide of KaffiristanMar 19, 2009 22:44152244
"Shaking the Sheikh, but for how much longer" [69 words]Lactantius Jr."Mar 21, 2009 10:21152244
To Grand Infidel: Islam is very popular in the west [111 words]MohammedMar 23, 2009 16:34152244
"Prophet of Doom continued" [7651 words]Lactantius JrMar 23, 2009 19:57152244
welcoming terrorists with open arms is a good move? [1214 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 25, 2009 21:21152244
furthermore [154 words]the Grand Infide of KaffiristanMar 25, 2009 21:54152244
To Lactantius [14029 words]ShajiMar 28, 2009 13:11152244
fiction - no matter how plausible, is still fiction. [694 words]the Grand Infide of KaffiristanMar 30, 2009 19:55152244
Dates picking time and Islam was indeed spread by the sword [803 words]dhimmi no moreMar 31, 2009 18:47152244
To Shaji, more about the prophet of doom and the alternative provided by Jesus Christ "The Prince of Peace" [5038 words]Lactantius JrApr 1, 2009 17:03152244
It's is absolutely reality, not fiction [1135 words]ShajiApr 2, 2009 03:58152244
Islam, a peaceful religion [1854 words]ShajiApr 2, 2009 06:43152244
Who are you kidding Shaji? [149 words]JaladhiApr 2, 2009 15:40152244
Dates picking time and our dear sahji part deux and Islam was really spread by the sword [583 words]dhimmi no moreApr 2, 2009 17:41152244
sorry, it's still fiction [2711 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanApr 2, 2009 21:15152244
And the saga continues: islam was really spread by the sword and this what the Qur'an really says [1108 words]dhimmi no moreApr 3, 2009 07:39152244
poor Muslim logic and this time our dear Shaji believes that the Bible is not corrupted! [1053 words]dhimmi no moreApr 4, 2009 07:56152244
Dates picking time and our dear sahji part trois [421 words]dhimmi no moreApr 4, 2009 08:11152244
Islamic pagansim [241 words]dhimmi no moreApr 4, 2009 08:21152244
Revisiting babbling 3A'isha [274 words]dhimmi no moreApr 5, 2009 17:29152244
Our dear Shaji and the word Jihad and teaching one tablighee at a time [330 words]dhimmi no moreApr 5, 2009 17:43152244
DNM's question not answered!!! So what's new, this is the normal pattern with followers of islam!!! [68 words]JaladhiApr 10, 2009 16:17152244
Shaji and other sordid matters [66 words]dhimmi no moreApr 11, 2009 08:16152244
dhimmi: Shaji is probably a Malabari not an Urdu speaker [60 words]PlatoApr 12, 2009 12:06152244
dhimmi: hlep in translation [149 words]PlatoApr 12, 2009 12:16152244
Yes there are plenty ! [35 words]S BApr 13, 2009 13:47152244
Shaji: However much you may twist and turn you cannot escape the truth that Islam is false [3546 words]PlatoApr 14, 2009 03:54152244
an impossible task [127 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanApr 14, 2009 07:15152244
1Father Zakaria Botros and reading the Qur'an and Allah and Muslims and the angels pray to Muhammad [594 words]dhimmi no moreApr 14, 2009 08:06152244
Q33:56 [191 words]dhimmi no moreApr 15, 2009 07:55152244
dhimmi no more: thanks [23 words]PlatoApr 15, 2009 18:48152244
dhimmi no more: thanks again [15 words]PlatoApr 15, 2009 18:59152244
1Syriac in the Qur'an and even the word sura is not an Arabic word [711 words]dhimmi no moreApr 18, 2009 11:05152244
Reading the Qur'an and Muhammad [846 words]dhimmi no moreApr 19, 2009 09:24152244
dhimmi no more: What an idea! Detaching Muhammad from the Koran! [28 words]PlatoApr 19, 2009 21:21152244
2Read Qur'an first and don't rely on Christian aplogists, they are deceiving you. [7681 words]ShajiApr 26, 2009 03:23152244
To Shaji (peace be upon him) [2357 words]Lactantius JrApr 27, 2009 13:22152244
Our dear Shaji is back this time he agrees that islam was indeed spread by the sword and as If we did not know that [552 words]dhimmi no moreApr 28, 2009 08:01152244
Our dear Shaji seems to disagree with his Allah! Astaghfirullah al-3azeem [274 words]dhimmi no moreApr 28, 2009 20:28152244
Our dear Shaji and teaching one tablighee at a time that the Qur'an says that Jesus is really God and Islam is the religion of the Arabs only [525 words]dhimmi no moreApr 29, 2009 06:54152244
Islamic polytheism and our dear sahji [291 words]dhimmi no moreApr 29, 2009 07:14152244
Combined reply for all your refutations [18384 words]ShajiMay 28, 2009 06:12152244
Sorry, it's not a fiction [8540 words]ShajiMay 28, 2009 06:15152244
Not Kidding [556 words]ShajiMay 28, 2009 06:17152244
Follow both Prophet Muhammad along with Jesus (peace be upon them both) and believe in complete submission to One and Only God [2699 words]ShajiMay 28, 2009 06:20152244
It's not twist and turn; but clear-cut truth [17527 words]ShajiMay 28, 2009 06:24152244
Who is Jesus? why did He come? what was His mission? [5232 words]Lactantius JrMay 30, 2009 09:11152244
Our dear Shaji and Abul Qasim's name is mentioned in the corrupted Bible go figure [3170 words]dhimmi no moreMay 31, 2009 08:43152244
dates picking or is it cherry picking time and Abul Qasim in the corrupted Bible [420 words]dhimmi no moreMay 31, 2009 10:01152244
Our dear Shaji and his foray in Arabic a language that he cannot read or write! Go figure and the word Jihad means holy war and as if we ddi not know already [1890 words]dhimmi no moreMay 31, 2009 11:15152244
The age of babbling 3A'isha [215 words]dhimmi no moreMay 31, 2009 11:27152244
6Our dear shaji and Q33:56 allah and his angels pray to Muhammad and it is all in black and white and more dates picking [1304 words]dhimmi no moreMay 31, 2009 17:44152244
As is excepted our dear Shaji does not really know what the Qur'an syas in Arabic [597 words]dhimmi no moreMay 31, 2009 19:49152244
Our dear shaji and dates picking and Abul Qasim in the Bible and Islamic paganism [910 words]dhimmi no moreJun 1, 2009 06:57152244
Our dear Shaji al-tablighee and islam is really the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only! And this is what the Qur'an really says [1243 words]dhimmi no moreJun 4, 2009 08:06152244
13A'isha and the saga continues [215 words]dhimmi no moreJun 5, 2009 06:34152244
Islam was really spread by the sword as in the case of the pagans of Mecca [951 words]dhimmi no moreJun 5, 2009 07:27152244
1Q8:41 and Allah demands to get 1/5 of the loot collected from infidles and more about free will in Islam [1729 words]dhimmi no moreJun 6, 2009 08:26152244
Ah BUT Shaji, my folk already do these things like you say [65 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 5, 2009 22:39152244
Mohammed do not be so sure of your self and your Islam [102 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 5, 2009 22:57152244
What I do not understand [453 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 6, 2009 12:11152244
Speaking of swords [145 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 6, 2009 20:19152244
I'll tell you what Shaji [111 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 6, 2009 22:05152244
Dhimmi No More has the answer [46 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 7, 2009 00:56152244
On knowledge of Hebrew [54 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 7, 2009 01:23152244
dnm and Plato you guys are great. You certainly give my mind a work out but I love it. [166 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 7, 2009 01:53152244
On the trinity [69 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 7, 2009 02:01152244
Dhimmi you bust me up HA HA HA [13 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 7, 2009 07:00152244
The difference between my folk and the Christians [61 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 7, 2009 07:25152244
Men act upon what they believe to be true about the world and themselves [84 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 7, 2009 07:35152244
What Yeshua said and what he meant [89 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 7, 2009 07:48152244
"How Jesus Christ Fulfills the Old Testament" an analysis of Matthew 5:17-20 [230 words]Lactantius JrOct 12, 2009 16:01152244
"Islam and the sword" [100 words]Lactantius JrOct 12, 2009 17:36152244
My Dear Lactantius [141 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 14, 2009 10:29152244
"What did the Lord Jesus Christ do for us?" [539 words]Lactantius JrOct 15, 2009 15:52152244
Lactantius, If you want to quote something to me don't use your book [86 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 19, 2009 11:01152244
Paul the Apostate and his perversion of the word [219 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 19, 2009 11:27152244
quoting from "my" book [39 words]Lactantius JrOct 20, 2009 05:07152244
The Apostle Paul, the truth of his words, and the truth of the Word [169 words]Lactantius JrOct 20, 2009 05:25152244
I reject your documentation as a source. [169 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 21, 2009 22:49152244
The book of John is itself a distortion [44 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 21, 2009 22:54152244
good points! [10 words]samirDec 24, 2009 00:55152244
What good points? [35 words]dhimmi no moreDec 25, 2009 06:49152244
holy Qur'an Vs Injil [281 words]khumairohMay 18, 2010 19:57152244
A real victim of Arabian imperialism [30 words]dhimmi no moreMay 19, 2010 17:38152244
ALLAH PRAYING TO MOHAMMAD [57 words]ABDULJul 22, 2010 20:04152244
Islamic Polytheism in the Qur'an [190 words]dhimmi no moreJul 25, 2010 07:25152244
bleh [19 words]limanNov 2, 2012 06:47152244
an reply from mouslem [63 words]mouslemMar 4, 2016 19:14152244
Deaf ears [113 words]Rebecca MouldsMar 13, 2009 10:09152224
Re Fox News, Islam and Text books [1445 words]Tess McNamara Australian and Pro Israeli supporterMar 13, 2009 04:16152219
Muslim Faith Should Not Be Whitewashed in American Textbooks [308 words]RonnieMar 13, 2009 00:09152210
More Islamic Spin [132 words]S. GrabowskiMar 12, 2009 21:13152197
Daniel Pipes is correct! [78 words]Prof. JoeMar 12, 2009 21:05152196
DONATION. [30 words]SvetlanatchkahMar 12, 2009 19:19152185
fox news [27 words]dennis wojciakMar 12, 2009 19:09152183
Letter To FOX [215 words]SvetlanatchkahMar 12, 2009 14:26152170
Lies, Deceit, and Cover up- This is what people need to know about Islam [196 words]Anne- USAMar 12, 2009 13:58152167
The moron and the oxy [212 words]Tim Buck IIMar 12, 2009 10:24152161
An Appeal to Cultural Muslims [1751 words]Amil ImaniMar 12, 2009 09:00152157
top marks [15 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 12, 2009 23:00152157
Great Articulation [5 words]raja believerMar 14, 2009 14:56152157
Thank you "the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan " [3 words]Amil ImaniMar 15, 2009 09:52152157
Religion [421 words]ArlindaMar 12, 2009 06:49152150
Enablers and apologists [22 words]aspaciaMar 12, 2009 06:43152149
Is appeasement better than confrontation? [149 words]pdmMar 11, 2009 09:35152093
Inputs for Hussein Ibish - On Conquest of Americas by Spaniards [67 words]SinghaMar 10, 2009 23:35152067
fair and balanced debate? [10 words]ravin blackMar 10, 2009 22:25152062
Catch them Young - You give an Inch. Islamists take a mile [82 words]SinghaMar 10, 2009 12:50152033
Islam in American Textbooks [292 words]IfrahimMar 10, 2009 19:05152033
jihad [62 words]Joe Six-PackMar 10, 2009 21:36152033
Argument of Hussein Ibish is a Joke - In Islam Religion and Politics Remain Integrated. [88 words]SinghaMar 11, 2009 22:07152033
Exposing Islam [101 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 01:32152033
Jewish people claims in Mecca & Medina & Arabian peninsula [71 words]samMar 10, 2009 10:29152023
"Islamic hated of Jews" [868 words]Lactantius JrMar 10, 2009 20:01152023
Very good question [822 words]dhimmi no moreMar 10, 2009 20:10152023
Jewish people in current arabia ? [97 words]SamMar 11, 2009 18:21152023
Jews in Baghdad [65 words]AngelMar 12, 2009 11:57152023
Jews in the Hijaz and the biggest literary fraud in the history of mankind [352 words]dhimmi no moreMar 12, 2009 19:34152023
To Dhimmi No More and Sam [217 words]RonnieMar 13, 2009 00:33152023
To Sam, Lactantius and dhimmi, from a MUSLIM [1036 words]Ibn MasudMar 13, 2009 01:35152023
dhimmi: its important that you speak with solid evidence, and not your mind [41 words]Ibn MasudMar 13, 2009 01:52152023
A whole book concerning islamic Antisemitism [23 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDMar 13, 2009 16:41152023
dhimmi: your analysis is totally inaccurate. [62 words]David EhlemMar 13, 2009 18:01152023
Ibn Masud, and where is your solid evidence [102 words]InfidelMar 13, 2009 21:18152023
Jesus [6 words]leighMar 14, 2009 00:52152023
Ibn Masud- [29 words]leighMar 14, 2009 01:00152023
The biggest literary fraud in the history of mankind [466 words]dhimmi no moreMar 14, 2009 07:46152023
Our dear Ibn Masud and the muslim sources that he cannot read in Arabic [103 words]dhimmi no moreMar 14, 2009 07:53152023
Our dear Ibn Masud: On being clueless [251 words]dhimmi no moreMar 14, 2009 08:08152023
Our dera Ibn Masud and the bogus hadith [65 words]dhimmi no moreMar 14, 2009 08:52152023
our dear ibn masud and speaking of solid evidence [380 words]dhimmi no moreMar 14, 2009 12:25152023
Infidel: then you should be reading dhimmi's blog ... [80 words]Ibn MasudMar 14, 2009 17:18152023
leigh: It would be unfair for you to learn Islam from Kuffar's books [49 words]Ibn MasudMar 14, 2009 17:23152023
2Res Ipsa Loquitor [268 words]dhimmi no moreMar 14, 2009 17:24152023
dhimmi: Mocking and Insulting the greatest religion Islam, proves your inferiority complex about it. [242 words]Ibn MasudMar 14, 2009 18:20152023
their actions belie their words [209 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 14, 2009 23:59152023
Our dear ibn masud is a lost tablighee revisited [272 words]dhimmi no moreMar 15, 2009 07:40152023
1What is really al-jihad and what is really al-ijtihad?and should we call islam: istislam instead of Islam? [926 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
dhimmi no moreMar 15, 2009 09:32152023
K"NO"WING ISLAM [193 words]raja believerMar 15, 2009 13:54152023
Ibn Masud, Allah or GOD [122 words]InfidelMar 15, 2009 18:51152023
Ibn Masud is mocking and insulting the great religion of his ancestors the Hindus in favor of the arabs and Islam proves his inferiority compelx [586 words]dhimmi no moreMar 15, 2009 19:26152023
learn about Islam from a non Arab? really? this is like us studying urdu and urdu culture from your masters the Arabs [63 words]dhimmi no moreMar 15, 2009 19:32152023
studying the disturbed and deluded [167 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 15, 2009 20:58152023
why are you mocking then [96 words]SamMar 16, 2009 00:27152023
muslim history unpallatable to Ibnmasud? [25 words]leighMar 16, 2009 01:09152023
The imperialism of the Arabs must be the ultimate imperialsim of all times [228 words]dhimmi no moreMar 16, 2009 07:36152023
Can Jewish people go to Mecca and Medina ? [75 words]samMar 16, 2009 13:08152023
Ibn Masud, Needs a course in Deductive Logic [102 words]raja believerMar 16, 2009 23:29152023
Prophet of Islam (PBUH) [98 words]MohammedMar 17, 2009 16:51152023
Our dear Mohammed and the other Muhammad [673 words]dhimmi no moreMar 17, 2009 18:59152023
Prophet of Islam [107 words]S.AliMar 17, 2009 22:49152023
Infidel: Before you argue about Islam, Go and Learn Quran carefully. [51 words]Ibn MasudMar 18, 2009 01:48152023
dhimmi: Your understanding of Quran is like Abu Jahaal, who ended up in Hell [59 words]Ibn MasudMar 18, 2009 01:54152023
dhimmi: Like you, we did not come here to make money. We were sent here for your benefit. [52 words]Ibn MasudMar 18, 2009 02:02152023
Lahol -bila- khuwat [157 words]raja believerMar 18, 2009 06:31152023
Correction [47 words]MohammedMar 18, 2009 12:26152023
my mistake [196 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 18, 2009 17:53152023
Response to Dhimmi [142 words]MohammedMar 18, 2009 17:57152023
the case of the priapistic, promiscuous prophet [68 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 18, 2009 18:04152023
To Dhimmi: Power of Islam [49 words]MohammedMar 18, 2009 18:16152023
Our dear Ibn Masud a victim of Arabian imperialism [255 words]dhimmi no moreMar 18, 2009 18:30152023
the odour of hypocrisy [212 words]the Grand Infide of KaffiristanMar 18, 2009 18:49152023
It seems that by his poor Muslim logic our dear Ibn masud worships idols and dollars. Read and enjoy [358 words]dhimmi no moreMar 18, 2009 18:52152023
Ibn Masud, Muslims and Jews [50 words]InfidelMar 18, 2009 19:45152023
Was Prophet of Islam superior to all prophets? [184 words]johnMar 18, 2009 23:41152023
It's all porky [133 words]raja believerMar 19, 2009 06:43152023
Our dear Ibn Masud is acting against his Allah's grand plans [394 words]dhimmi no moreMar 19, 2009 07:48152023
The Last or Lust Prophet [169 words]raja believerMar 19, 2009 07:51152023
What !!! [72 words]JaladhiMar 19, 2009 18:16152023
dhimmi: quit making a fool of yourself with your inferiority complex [102 words]Ibn MasudMar 20, 2009 00:24152023
As if [207 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 20, 2009 02:00152023
Here we go again and how many muslims in the US! and the bogus claim that islam is the fastest growing religion in the US [118 words]dhimmi no moreMar 20, 2009 07:28152023
babbling 3Ai'sha revisited [198 words]dhimmi no moreMar 20, 2009 07:37152023
Don't compare Saints with Prophets [250 words]MansoorMar 20, 2009 09:42152023
To Raja:Prophet's revelations [34 words]SunnyMar 20, 2009 12:01152023
Know them by their fruits warned Yeshua [27 words]leighMar 21, 2009 02:14152023
Islamic delusions and we only tell you what your islamic sources tell us [684 words]dhimmi no moreMar 21, 2009 08:15152023
To Dhimmi: Ayesha's age [66 words]MohammedMar 21, 2009 14:07152023
Religion has to be spiritual without ceasing to be rational & ethical [253 words]raja believerMar 21, 2009 15:07152023
ToGrand Infidel: Power of Islam [88 words]MohammedMar 21, 2009 15:09152023
more wishful thinking [739 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 21, 2009 22:41152023
the little green book said it was Ok ,officer. [147 words]the Grand Infide of KaffiristanMar 21, 2009 22:54152023
Add this to Quran [193 words]raja believerMar 22, 2009 00:52152023
our dear Ibn masud and Muslim logic. For the readers: read and enjoy [306 words]dhimmi no moreMar 22, 2009 08:11152023
The 3A'isha saga goes on and on [235 words]dhimmi no moreMar 22, 2009 08:25152023
Differing Times [17 words]wotthefiqhMar 22, 2009 10:54152023
Real Fastest Growing Religion Is Christainity, Not Islam [34 words]AnneMMar 22, 2009 17:46152023
great advice [143 words]the Grand Infide of KaffiristanMar 22, 2009 21:29152023
response to "Infidel" [105 words]Job HaddawayMar 22, 2009 22:44152023
Job Haddaway, read the Qur'an [86 words]InfidelMar 23, 2009 20:48152023
To Job, Mohammed ,Masud: Ref. to Quran [33 words]JohnMar 24, 2009 12:20152023
Your language is offemsive [165 words]DonMar 24, 2009 21:58152023
Interesting [54 words]DonMar 25, 2009 20:25152023
John: Why then people in the world are becoming Muslims in an alarming rate? [36 words]Earl DMar 26, 2009 17:53152023
EarlD's illusion about world becoming Muslim at an alarming rate!!! [77 words]JaladhiMar 29, 2009 18:12152023
How to look for guidance when a book abounds with 'faults' [86 words]B.N.GururajApr 12, 2009 09:20152023
No David I think dhimmi has a case [105 words]SimonApr 14, 2009 22:42152023
Search for Wisdom [105 words]AhamedApr 21, 2009 16:52152023
Jews in the Hijaz and the biggest literary fraud in the history of mankind revisited [224 words]dhimmi no moreApr 25, 2009 15:34152023
Abuna Zack..he is the man! [166 words]SimonApr 29, 2009 01:18152023
Jesus was a Jew and never denied it- response to Leigh- Islam in American Textbooks [72 words]Anne- USAJun 8, 2009 21:46152023
Toward an Anti Islam Jihad [216 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 6, 2009 00:02152023
We can be optimistic [2 words]DonOct 6, 2009 23:12152023
Thank you Dhimmi No More- News I've been waiting for [290 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 14:50152023
To Ibn Masud- these are the kinds of lies that my folk have been fighting [131 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemisOct 8, 2009 15:19152023
Ibn Masud [111 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 15:33152023
To David Ehlem [11 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 15:37152023
Books again??? Ibn Masud you amaze me with your blindness [113 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 15:56152023
Ibn Masud! [12 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 15:59152023
Perhaps we should be looking in the Shaat alArab [15 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 16:08152023
It is truely said amongst my own folk [77 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 17:12152023
On Islam and other obsessions [160 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 17:36152023
Another [87 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 17:50152023
Is sex all that Islam about? [60 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 18:08152023
Ibn Masud [51 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 18:12152023
Ironic isn't it? [25 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 18:47152023
Rumi was also NOT an Arab [15 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 19:17152023
Mansoor [27 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 19:27152023
Islam is the fastest growing religion??? [43 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 19:51152023
Yes, send him to the Georgia mountains HA HA HA [10 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 19:59152023
Amen Raja [5 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 20:10152023
Ahamed, the choice is yours [26 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 20:26152023
To Don [31 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 20:53152023
Ancient Books of History [45 words]beauty4ashesJan 16, 2010 10:32152023
Many authors [28 words]b soetoroJan 17, 2010 07:04152023
And so is the Qur'an [177 words]dhimmi no moreJan 23, 2010 12:56152023
Many authors [26 words]b soetoroJan 24, 2010 11:12152023
The Qur'an did not drop from the sky [90 words]dhimmi no moreJan 24, 2010 13:39152023
1Yeah, yeah ... before Abraham there was Ishmael, right? [71 words]Franco L'italianoSep 28, 2010 00:55152023
The islamic historical tradition and the Jews of Mecca and Medina [135 words]dhimmi no moreSep 29, 2010 08:01152023
saracens [134 words]abrahamApr 27, 2013 09:46152023
SARACENS AND MAVIA [137 words]tishMar 25, 2014 01:57152023

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