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Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Apr 2, 2009 at 21:15


Mr. Shaji (peace be upon him) writes:

"I am sure you haven't made any attempt to approach Islam with a clear and unprejudiced mind."

Well then another one of your certainties is truly is misplaced. I have studied Islam - along with many other religions.
It must be difficult for you to accept that a person can study Islam and not find it a panacea for all mankind's ills. But there you have it - people do just that and reach the same conclusion - not because of any perversity of mind but they use their God-given intelligence to discern the truth. They separate the wheat from the chaff so to speak.

I understand why you might doggedly adhere to your worldview as you most probably have been brought up in an Islamic monoculture where the Muslim way of life and beliefs hold sway. You're part of the status quo.

. "Actually I don't have to rationalize my belief to remain Muslim and to convey the message of Islam. "
Of course you do. But you're so steeped in your cultural millieu that you no longer have to rationalize the absurd. Your superstitions have become real for you - it's now 'reality'. You have your won perfectly good reasons for stepping into the toilet with your left foot and exiting with your right , shaving your pubic hair etc etc

"................It is already clarified by Qur'an and Sunnah through Prophet (peace be upon him). I am only trying to remove the misconceptions about this religion. It is the most misunderstood religion today. ."

As Christ said - 'ye shall know them by their fruits'. i.e. what actually matters is not what people believe but what they do and how they are in their own being. Islam is not misunderstood by non-Muslims - although the idealised version of it you believe in may not be appreciated. Having said that It is good that you live your life by ideals - as long as those ideals don't infringe on other people. However - those ideals are universal and certainly not unique to Islam.


"...It has been maliciously presented in order to keep public away from true principles and in fact, it is the religion taught by all the Prophets (peace be upon them all), that is towards ONE GOD and worship HIM ALONE"

There you go, stating opinions for facts. Bad move. I know it is certainly not the religion taught by all the prophets. All the prophets and spiritual masters mission was to awaken human beings to their true inner potential - the Kingdom of Heaven within, higher spiritual consciousness or whatever you want to call it. Masters and prophets through the ages were connected with this universal consciousness. call it Original Nature, Buddha nature, the real Self or any of the many and varied terms from so many traditions - it all points to the same thing. If you don't recognise or experience the divine within - your belief and worship of an external deity, following rites and rituals is a waste of time. The truth is within each person. It is not 'Islam' - it is beyond words and myth and rites and rituals and beliefs and limitations - and verbal descriptions don't really do it justice. It is the true nature of consciousness itself.

"The problem you face, and all other critics of Islam do, is to interpret Qur'an and authentic Sunnah according to their own wish."
I do not face a problem at all for having looked at the past and continuing effect of Islam on societies - why are you suggesting it is a problem? I do not have a 'wish' to interpret it one way or another. I interpret it as I do. But then again, I am not myopically focussing on it , hoping for it bring some great revelation to me. I have better things to do.

"...As usual like those critics, this is evident from you also."

If I had agreed with Islam and its followers - you would say I was wise but I would say I was a sheep.
What you're basically saying is I have arrived at my own conclusions about Islam through my own reasoning and observations - rather than blindly accepting positive (or negative) opinions of other people. I agree.

"One must understand Islam from Qur'an and Sunnah. "

One mustn't do anything. The Quran and Sunnah have made Islam what it is today - a confused religion practised in a large part by large numbers backward peasants intent on recreating their 7th centruy Arabian myth by whatever means it takes. including blowing up buildings, trains, planes and automobiles to force the hand of 'infidels'. These people have no real insight or appreciation of the worth of their own lives and indeed some will even die in order to kill other human beings in , so hypnotised have they become in their belief in their myth.

"The best teacher and interpreter of both was Prophet (peace be upon him) himself. "
You are adept at making value judgements not based on fact and which can never be proved empirically.

"His followers learnt Islam from him and spread to the whole world."

Islam was not spread to the whole world. For a long time it remained in a very localised region - the Middle east. It was spread through North Africa by what we would call today terrorism and the reason it took off in the East Indies was because the natives there at that time were a collection of primitive tribes (some headhunters) met arab traders and saw that they were fair in their dealings - they used weights and measures and the abacus. So it was a form of assimilation by interaction with a superior culture.

" We living in many centuries later, must understand Islam how those righteous predecessors (called Salaf, pious followers till 3rd generation, as certified by Prophet) understood and followed it."
Again - we 'must' do nothing. You 'must' do nothing as well - though you will follow the dictates of your beliefs.

" Without knowing the background of instructions of Prophet (peace be upon him) and how it is practiced by these predecessors, present-day critics do grave mistake with their own "misinterpretations" to attain their wicked benefits. "

What 'wicked benefits' do people who make objective calls on 'the background of instructions of Prophet' ? There is no mistake at all. The real mistake is to blindly accept it.

"Their intention and purpose is to malign and nothing else."
I probably believed in Santa Claus until I was 4 or so. Most adults don't believe in Santa Claus now and most don't malign Santa Claus and are quite happy for kids down the street to believe - and maybe even their own children. But if the kids down the street started taking over my house and threatened its occupants with harm because they don't believe in Santa Claus - then of course there's going to be a reaction.
From the childrens point of view - it would be seen as malicious wouldn't it?

" Regarding "camel's urine", I already clarified, it was proposed by prophet to certain people that time for some illness and those people got cured through that......."

Well, you can continue drinking it . There may be commercial possibilities there for you - perhaps carbonate it and sell it in soda cans.

"....Also remember, science and understandings of today may change tomorrow and who knows new discoveries will not be made on what you find "unacceptable" today."
Science is just a record of observations and making hypothesis on those opbservations. The underlying principles in the narural world remain constant. Water will continue to quench people's thirst in 5,000 years time.

"Regarding Prophet's (peace be upon him) marriage with Aishah (may Allah be pleased with her), "
Mohammed must have been pleased with her - so that's the same thing.

"I tried to clarify with culture in Semitic traditions, wisdom behind that marriage and with age factor in small detail. "
semitic traditions have reduced its adherents to the squalor most of them currently live in - there is nothing wise about it.

"....It seems you are not convinced and you don't want to ponder over the traditions. "

Yes, I certainly am not convinced and despite your best efforts will never be convinced that a nine year old girl should be having sexual relations with a 53 year old man.

"You are more inclined with Freudian thoughts."

Another assumption but if Freud said child sex wasn't a good thing then you are right. I am inclined to the view that sex with a child is based not on the needs of the child. I suppose pedophiles think their victims 'need' it - but it is purely their own lust , lack of self control and the thoughts of their evil minds that let this occur. There is no justification for it and certainly no tolerance for it in the minds of reasonable people - no matter how much you'd like it to be otherwise. It is sick behaviour.


"See an article entitled Puberty in Girls (http://www.public.health.wa.gov.au/hp2107.htm) by your own country (Australian government Public Health organization), says:
The first sign of puberty is usually a surge of growth: you become taller; your breasts develop; hair begins to grow in the pubic area and under the arms. This may start from 10 years to 14 years - even earlier for some and later for others.This completely refutes your argument that there is no maturity difference among different people."

Not at all. The point I was making was not that different individuals do not physically mature at different rates - it is ridiculous to think that that was the assertion I was making. The point I made was that racial groups do not mature at an earlier rate than others. Precocious puberty occurs in all racial groups for individuals but Arabs as a group do not mature earlier than Chinese for example - or South Americans. Yet child sex is considered completely wrong in those cultures by right thinking people and this is reflected in their laws. And my assertion that a 9 year old girl is not ready physically or emotionally or mentally for sexual relations with a middle aged man for still stands, let alone having a child at that age.

"And as you acknowledge the relevancy of the source of the quote (Australian government Public Health organization) you can bet your last dinar that the Australian Government proscribes child sex in all cases.
An article Physical Changes in Girls During Puberty (http://www.chmc.org/aboutchi/infoline/girls.htm) has this to say:
"During puberty, a girl's body changes, inside and out, into the body of a woman. The changes don't come all at once, and they don't happen at the same time for everybody. Most girls start showing physical changes around age 11, but everyone has her own internal schedule for development. It's normal for changes to start as early as 8 or 9 years of age, or not until 13 or 14. Even if nothing looks or feels different yet, the changes may have already begun inside your body."

You seem to be a little obsessed with this. We learn this in sex education in late primary school. It really doesn't need to be repeated.

"Many will readily agree with the information above, but still might harbour reservations about whether a marriage to an older man could be happy for such a young girl. "

Yes, I think they just might. Strange , isn't t?

"The marriage of Aishah (may Allah be pleased with her) and the Prophet (peace be upon him) was a mutually happy and loving one as in expressed in numerous Hadith and biography books. That happy marriages occur between people with a fairly large difference in ages is known among psychologists (from Theodor H. Vandevelde, Ideal Marriage: Its Physiology and Technique, Greenwood Publishing Group, 1980, p. 243.):
When the differences (in ages) is great, e.g. exceeds fifteen to twenty years, the results may be happier. "

People with deviant sexualty have a plethora of excuses to justify their behaviour.

"The marriage of an elderly (senescent) not, of course, an old (senile) man to a quite young girl, is often very successful and harmonious. The bride is immediately introduced and accustomed to moderate sexual intercourse."
I'm sure Mr. Theodor H. Vandevelde's opinions are taken on board by rock spiders everywhere and even used by defence lawyers at their trials.

"This topic can be explained in further detail. I will do it as per your response."
I won't ask.

"Regarding Comforter, followers of many religions have their own way of proving their belief. But let us analyze the scriptures to get the truth. If others are able to explain with the base of scriptures, we must evaluate how true is their arguments. I explained in detail about Muslim argument about the "comforter" in my reply to Mr. Lactantius Jr., http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/152892. Hope you will read it.

Actually, rather than concentrating on trying to propogate yet another myth - that Mohammed was the 'Comforter' - I think it would be better if you read the interpretation of the many Biblical references to the 'False Prophet'.

"Mr. GIK, keep in mind, social practices and its acceptability is different among people even in the same country itself. Then how you compare such differences between nations…??. Right and wrong among such practices depends on religion, traditions and many other factors. That's why Islam speaks about God in providing guidance to mankind, wherever you are, irrespective of your cast, color, race, tribe or nation, you must follow God's divine guidance. This is what Qur'an says in 49:13 – "O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things)".

So, seeing that all cultures are different and that ' Right and wrong among such practices depends on religion, traditions and many other factors' - to make it clear to humanity the 'divine guidance' from the external 'Allah' is that child sex is OK?

"Whether Islam is supreme or not, Qur'an has the answer. It says in 9:33 – "It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it)."

That's like saying to see if 'National Socialism' is supreme - read Mein Kampf. It's hardly objective or an unbiased opinion is it? In fact it is completely subjective for those who believe it. And those who don't because of what they objectively see with their own eyes and appreciate with their minds - are categorised as 'foolish unbelievers' by the deluded.

"...My friend, I would request you to go through Qur'an. You will find hereafter life is a reality. "
All religions say the soul goes on after physical death - so what's new? Not all religions mention 72 virgins, everlasting wine, green cushions etc etc

"It is duty of every Muslim to convey the truth. "
Qur'aan says in 16:125 – "Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance."

You automatically make the mistake of assuming that anyone who does not follow Islam is not on the 'true path'. That is an extremely conceited attitude to have. Are you more enlightened than all Buddhist monks or all yogis or all Christian or Jewish mystics for example? If you are not - then they know something that you do not - and you have something to learn or more to the point - unlearn.

"If Allah wishes, you will reach the truth."
The 'truth' is an inner experience - and one you are unaware of.

"...May Allah helps to understand and follow the truth (Amen)."

'Allah' has - and that's why I am not and never will be a Muslim.

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Daniel Pipes [25 words]aniaNov 30, 2011 04:29191323
1Islam in Texbooks is deception of true Jihad. [309 words]DeborahMay 1, 2009 10:46154784
Our dear Deborah another tablighee and the Arabic word jihad [235 words]dhimmi no moreJun 3, 2009 20:01154784
Excuse me sir, anyone can study the Koran, or go to classes, and not be Islamic. resonse to Dhimmi. [307 words]DeborahJun 4, 2009 16:45154784
The word jihad means holy war [1167 words]dhimmi no moreJun 7, 2009 08:29154784
1Gem time from our dear Deborah and if we infidels and evil as he wrote then only Allah can be blamed [153 words]dhimmi no moreJun 7, 2009 08:38154784
The Koran is translated in English! [236 words]DeborahJun 7, 2009 20:12154784
Our dear Deborah and the word jihad and the saga contiunes [780 words]dhimmi no moreJun 9, 2009 07:23154784
Abandoning Islam-response to Dhimmi [71 words]DeborahJun 9, 2009 20:04154784
1The Second Coming Of Who? [178 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 5, 2009 20:43154784
The Second Coming of Who? The Alpha and the Omega, Response to Seamus [514 words]DeborahOct 7, 2009 09:46154784
To Deborah [141 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 18:39154784
The Second Coming of Who? I understand and accept your views. response to Seamus [167 words]DeborahOct 11, 2009 17:42154784
If you truly love G-D [263 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 14, 2009 02:19154784
1If you Truly Love God. I love him enough to believe his teachings and follow his commands. [445 words]DeborahOct 14, 2009 19:50154784
Deborah, It is YOU who is in for the rude awakening [130 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 19, 2009 10:39154784
I am calm in my knowledge and certainty. response to Seamus MacNemi [314 words]DeborahOct 20, 2009 10:53154784
To Deborah [484 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 21, 2009 22:27154784
THREAT TO NORTH AMERICA [262 words]mariaha-13Apr 9, 2009 14:31153648
Text book doctoring. More Indian experience. [180 words]B.N.GururajMar 28, 2009 23:03152918
Hindus' compliance in their own destruction [130 words]JaladhiApr 4, 2009 17:29152918
Yes! Hindus are a party to whitewashing of History [407 words]B.N.GururajApr 4, 2009 23:57152918
11"Rewriting Indian History - by Francois Gautier" - A Review [1748 words]TruthAloneTriumphsApr 10, 2009 11:13152918
West following same fateful steps of India of yore [198 words]B.N.GururajApr 11, 2009 07:12152918
Be Fair [278 words]AhamedApr 21, 2009 16:21152918
Satan??? oh my!! [291 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiSep 24, 2009 00:33152918
To Ahamed [103 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 5, 2009 22:02152918
Wonderful observations [23 words]Dr.N. V. KamathAug 22, 2017 14:26152918
The best commentary on Islam and Quran [38 words]MirzaMar 24, 2009 13:32152697
To Job Haddaway : Aya 4.89 [122 words]MohammedMar 24, 2009 12:08152691
not surprising [328 words]the Grand Infide of KaffiristanMar 26, 2009 06:56152691
Information [59 words]RoulalaMar 18, 2009 17:26152459
Statistical Errors & Historical Blunders [259 words]raja believerMar 15, 2009 15:43152329
The need to be informed about Islam. [60 words]batya daganMar 14, 2009 19:48152303
Future Jehad Factories of the US [169 words]raja believerMar 14, 2009 16:05152283
A proposal for a solution [83 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiSep 24, 2009 00:46152283
1White-washing of history can be a costly blunder! [747 words]B.N.GururajMar 14, 2009 00:02152244
Is there a book about violent history of islam ?? [32 words]SamMar 16, 2009 12:45152244
"Prophet of Doom" [88 words]Lactantius JrMar 17, 2009 03:48152244
why there is so much violence [61 words]SamMar 17, 2009 19:08152244
shaking the sheik - a classic [53 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 18, 2009 07:09152244
Books on India's tragic past [129 words]B.N.GururajMar 18, 2009 10:49152244
"Whitewashed tombs" [617 words]Lactantius JrMar 18, 2009 19:55152244
Replies to prophetofdoom article [23712 words]ShajiMar 19, 2009 02:27152244
To Sam [100 words]M.A.Mar 19, 2009 18:01152244
famous Islamic preachers [588 words]the Grand Infide of KaffiristanMar 19, 2009 22:44152244
"Shaking the Sheikh, but for how much longer" [69 words]Lactantius Jr."Mar 21, 2009 10:21152244
To Grand Infidel: Islam is very popular in the west [111 words]MohammedMar 23, 2009 16:34152244
"Prophet of Doom continued" [7651 words]Lactantius JrMar 23, 2009 19:57152244
welcoming terrorists with open arms is a good move? [1214 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 25, 2009 21:21152244
furthermore [154 words]the Grand Infide of KaffiristanMar 25, 2009 21:54152244
To Lactantius [14029 words]ShajiMar 28, 2009 13:11152244
fiction - no matter how plausible, is still fiction. [694 words]the Grand Infide of KaffiristanMar 30, 2009 19:55152244
Dates picking time and Islam was indeed spread by the sword [803 words]dhimmi no moreMar 31, 2009 18:47152244
To Shaji, more about the prophet of doom and the alternative provided by Jesus Christ "The Prince of Peace" [5038 words]Lactantius JrApr 1, 2009 17:03152244
It's is absolutely reality, not fiction [1135 words]ShajiApr 2, 2009 03:58152244
Islam, a peaceful religion [1854 words]ShajiApr 2, 2009 06:43152244
Who are you kidding Shaji? [149 words]JaladhiApr 2, 2009 15:40152244
Dates picking time and our dear sahji part deux and Islam was really spread by the sword [583 words]dhimmi no moreApr 2, 2009 17:41152244
sorry, it's still fiction [2711 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanApr 2, 2009 21:15152244
And the saga continues: islam was really spread by the sword and this what the Qur'an really says [1108 words]dhimmi no moreApr 3, 2009 07:39152244
poor Muslim logic and this time our dear Shaji believes that the Bible is not corrupted! [1053 words]dhimmi no moreApr 4, 2009 07:56152244
Dates picking time and our dear sahji part trois [421 words]dhimmi no moreApr 4, 2009 08:11152244
Islamic pagansim [241 words]dhimmi no moreApr 4, 2009 08:21152244
Revisiting babbling 3A'isha [274 words]dhimmi no moreApr 5, 2009 17:29152244
Our dear Shaji and the word Jihad and teaching one tablighee at a time [330 words]dhimmi no moreApr 5, 2009 17:43152244
DNM's question not answered!!! So what's new, this is the normal pattern with followers of islam!!! [68 words]JaladhiApr 10, 2009 16:17152244
Shaji and other sordid matters [66 words]dhimmi no moreApr 11, 2009 08:16152244
dhimmi: Shaji is probably a Malabari not an Urdu speaker [60 words]PlatoApr 12, 2009 12:06152244
dhimmi: hlep in translation [149 words]PlatoApr 12, 2009 12:16152244
Yes there are plenty ! [35 words]S BApr 13, 2009 13:47152244
Shaji: However much you may twist and turn you cannot escape the truth that Islam is false [3546 words]PlatoApr 14, 2009 03:54152244
an impossible task [127 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanApr 14, 2009 07:15152244
1Father Zakaria Botros and reading the Qur'an and Allah and Muslims and the angels pray to Muhammad [594 words]dhimmi no moreApr 14, 2009 08:06152244
Q33:56 [191 words]dhimmi no moreApr 15, 2009 07:55152244
dhimmi no more: thanks [23 words]PlatoApr 15, 2009 18:48152244
dhimmi no more: thanks again [15 words]PlatoApr 15, 2009 18:59152244
1Syriac in the Qur'an and even the word sura is not an Arabic word [711 words]dhimmi no moreApr 18, 2009 11:05152244
Reading the Qur'an and Muhammad [846 words]dhimmi no moreApr 19, 2009 09:24152244
dhimmi no more: What an idea! Detaching Muhammad from the Koran! [28 words]PlatoApr 19, 2009 21:21152244
2Read Qur'an first and don't rely on Christian aplogists, they are deceiving you. [7681 words]ShajiApr 26, 2009 03:23152244
To Shaji (peace be upon him) [2357 words]Lactantius JrApr 27, 2009 13:22152244
Our dear Shaji is back this time he agrees that islam was indeed spread by the sword and as If we did not know that [552 words]dhimmi no moreApr 28, 2009 08:01152244
Our dear Shaji seems to disagree with his Allah! Astaghfirullah al-3azeem [274 words]dhimmi no moreApr 28, 2009 20:28152244
Our dear Shaji and teaching one tablighee at a time that the Qur'an says that Jesus is really God and Islam is the religion of the Arabs only [525 words]dhimmi no moreApr 29, 2009 06:54152244
Islamic polytheism and our dear sahji [291 words]dhimmi no moreApr 29, 2009 07:14152244
Combined reply for all your refutations [18384 words]ShajiMay 28, 2009 06:12152244
Sorry, it's not a fiction [8540 words]ShajiMay 28, 2009 06:15152244
Not Kidding [556 words]ShajiMay 28, 2009 06:17152244
Follow both Prophet Muhammad along with Jesus (peace be upon them both) and believe in complete submission to One and Only God [2699 words]ShajiMay 28, 2009 06:20152244
It's not twist and turn; but clear-cut truth [17527 words]ShajiMay 28, 2009 06:24152244
Who is Jesus? why did He come? what was His mission? [5232 words]Lactantius JrMay 30, 2009 09:11152244
Our dear Shaji and Abul Qasim's name is mentioned in the corrupted Bible go figure [3170 words]dhimmi no moreMay 31, 2009 08:43152244
dates picking or is it cherry picking time and Abul Qasim in the corrupted Bible [420 words]dhimmi no moreMay 31, 2009 10:01152244
Our dear Shaji and his foray in Arabic a language that he cannot read or write! Go figure and the word Jihad means holy war and as if we ddi not know already [1890 words]dhimmi no moreMay 31, 2009 11:15152244
The age of babbling 3A'isha [215 words]dhimmi no moreMay 31, 2009 11:27152244
6Our dear shaji and Q33:56 allah and his angels pray to Muhammad and it is all in black and white and more dates picking [1304 words]dhimmi no moreMay 31, 2009 17:44152244
As is excepted our dear Shaji does not really know what the Qur'an syas in Arabic [597 words]dhimmi no moreMay 31, 2009 19:49152244
Our dear shaji and dates picking and Abul Qasim in the Bible and Islamic paganism [910 words]dhimmi no moreJun 1, 2009 06:57152244
Our dear Shaji al-tablighee and islam is really the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only! And this is what the Qur'an really says [1243 words]dhimmi no moreJun 4, 2009 08:06152244
13A'isha and the saga continues [215 words]dhimmi no moreJun 5, 2009 06:34152244
Islam was really spread by the sword as in the case of the pagans of Mecca [951 words]dhimmi no moreJun 5, 2009 07:27152244
1Q8:41 and Allah demands to get 1/5 of the loot collected from infidles and more about free will in Islam [1729 words]dhimmi no moreJun 6, 2009 08:26152244
Ah BUT Shaji, my folk already do these things like you say [65 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 5, 2009 22:39152244
Mohammed do not be so sure of your self and your Islam [102 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 5, 2009 22:57152244
What I do not understand [453 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 6, 2009 12:11152244
Speaking of swords [145 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 6, 2009 20:19152244
I'll tell you what Shaji [111 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 6, 2009 22:05152244
Dhimmi No More has the answer [46 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 7, 2009 00:56152244
On knowledge of Hebrew [54 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 7, 2009 01:23152244
dnm and Plato you guys are great. You certainly give my mind a work out but I love it. [166 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 7, 2009 01:53152244
On the trinity [69 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 7, 2009 02:01152244
Dhimmi you bust me up HA HA HA [13 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 7, 2009 07:00152244
The difference between my folk and the Christians [61 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 7, 2009 07:25152244
Men act upon what they believe to be true about the world and themselves [84 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 7, 2009 07:35152244
What Yeshua said and what he meant [89 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 7, 2009 07:48152244
"How Jesus Christ Fulfills the Old Testament" an analysis of Matthew 5:17-20 [230 words]Lactantius JrOct 12, 2009 16:01152244
"Islam and the sword" [100 words]Lactantius JrOct 12, 2009 17:36152244
My Dear Lactantius [141 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 14, 2009 10:29152244
"What did the Lord Jesus Christ do for us?" [539 words]Lactantius JrOct 15, 2009 15:52152244
Lactantius, If you want to quote something to me don't use your book [86 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 19, 2009 11:01152244
Paul the Apostate and his perversion of the word [219 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 19, 2009 11:27152244
quoting from "my" book [39 words]Lactantius JrOct 20, 2009 05:07152244
The Apostle Paul, the truth of his words, and the truth of the Word [169 words]Lactantius JrOct 20, 2009 05:25152244
I reject your documentation as a source. [169 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 21, 2009 22:49152244
The book of John is itself a distortion [44 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 21, 2009 22:54152244
good points! [10 words]samirDec 24, 2009 00:55152244
What good points? [35 words]dhimmi no moreDec 25, 2009 06:49152244
holy Qur'an Vs Injil [281 words]khumairohMay 18, 2010 19:57152244
A real victim of Arabian imperialism [30 words]dhimmi no moreMay 19, 2010 17:38152244
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Islamic Polytheism in the Qur'an [190 words]dhimmi no moreJul 25, 2010 07:25152244
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Deaf ears [113 words]Rebecca MouldsMar 13, 2009 10:09152224
Re Fox News, Islam and Text books [1445 words]Tess McNamara Australian and Pro Israeli supporterMar 13, 2009 04:16152219
Muslim Faith Should Not Be Whitewashed in American Textbooks [308 words]RonnieMar 13, 2009 00:09152210
More Islamic Spin [132 words]S. GrabowskiMar 12, 2009 21:13152197
Daniel Pipes is correct! [78 words]Prof. JoeMar 12, 2009 21:05152196
DONATION. [30 words]SvetlanatchkahMar 12, 2009 19:19152185
fox news [27 words]dennis wojciakMar 12, 2009 19:09152183
Letter To FOX [215 words]SvetlanatchkahMar 12, 2009 14:26152170
Lies, Deceit, and Cover up- This is what people need to know about Islam [196 words]Anne- USAMar 12, 2009 13:58152167
The moron and the oxy [212 words]Tim Buck IIMar 12, 2009 10:24152161
An Appeal to Cultural Muslims [1751 words]Amil ImaniMar 12, 2009 09:00152157
top marks [15 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 12, 2009 23:00152157
Great Articulation [5 words]raja believerMar 14, 2009 14:56152157
Thank you "the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan " [3 words]Amil ImaniMar 15, 2009 09:52152157
Religion [421 words]ArlindaMar 12, 2009 06:49152150
Enablers and apologists [22 words]aspaciaMar 12, 2009 06:43152149
Is appeasement better than confrontation? [149 words]pdmMar 11, 2009 09:35152093
Inputs for Hussein Ibish - On Conquest of Americas by Spaniards [67 words]SinghaMar 10, 2009 23:35152067
fair and balanced debate? [10 words]ravin blackMar 10, 2009 22:25152062
Catch them Young - You give an Inch. Islamists take a mile [82 words]SinghaMar 10, 2009 12:50152033
Islam in American Textbooks [292 words]IfrahimMar 10, 2009 19:05152033
jihad [62 words]Joe Six-PackMar 10, 2009 21:36152033
Argument of Hussein Ibish is a Joke - In Islam Religion and Politics Remain Integrated. [88 words]SinghaMar 11, 2009 22:07152033
Exposing Islam [101 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 01:32152033
Jewish people claims in Mecca & Medina & Arabian peninsula [71 words]samMar 10, 2009 10:29152023
"Islamic hated of Jews" [868 words]Lactantius JrMar 10, 2009 20:01152023
Very good question [822 words]dhimmi no moreMar 10, 2009 20:10152023
Jewish people in current arabia ? [97 words]SamMar 11, 2009 18:21152023
Jews in Baghdad [65 words]AngelMar 12, 2009 11:57152023
Jews in the Hijaz and the biggest literary fraud in the history of mankind [352 words]dhimmi no moreMar 12, 2009 19:34152023
To Dhimmi No More and Sam [217 words]RonnieMar 13, 2009 00:33152023
To Sam, Lactantius and dhimmi, from a MUSLIM [1036 words]Ibn MasudMar 13, 2009 01:35152023
dhimmi: its important that you speak with solid evidence, and not your mind [41 words]Ibn MasudMar 13, 2009 01:52152023
A whole book concerning islamic Antisemitism [23 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDMar 13, 2009 16:41152023
dhimmi: your analysis is totally inaccurate. [62 words]David EhlemMar 13, 2009 18:01152023
Ibn Masud, and where is your solid evidence [102 words]InfidelMar 13, 2009 21:18152023
Jesus [6 words]leighMar 14, 2009 00:52152023
Ibn Masud- [29 words]leighMar 14, 2009 01:00152023
The biggest literary fraud in the history of mankind [466 words]dhimmi no moreMar 14, 2009 07:46152023
Our dear Ibn Masud and the muslim sources that he cannot read in Arabic [103 words]dhimmi no moreMar 14, 2009 07:53152023
Our dear Ibn Masud: On being clueless [251 words]dhimmi no moreMar 14, 2009 08:08152023
Our dera Ibn Masud and the bogus hadith [65 words]dhimmi no moreMar 14, 2009 08:52152023
our dear ibn masud and speaking of solid evidence [380 words]dhimmi no moreMar 14, 2009 12:25152023
Infidel: then you should be reading dhimmi's blog ... [80 words]Ibn MasudMar 14, 2009 17:18152023
leigh: It would be unfair for you to learn Islam from Kuffar's books [49 words]Ibn MasudMar 14, 2009 17:23152023
2Res Ipsa Loquitor [268 words]dhimmi no moreMar 14, 2009 17:24152023
dhimmi: Mocking and Insulting the greatest religion Islam, proves your inferiority complex about it. [242 words]Ibn MasudMar 14, 2009 18:20152023
their actions belie their words [209 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 14, 2009 23:59152023
Our dear ibn masud is a lost tablighee revisited [272 words]dhimmi no moreMar 15, 2009 07:40152023
1What is really al-jihad and what is really al-ijtihad?and should we call islam: istislam instead of Islam? [926 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
dhimmi no moreMar 15, 2009 09:32152023
K"NO"WING ISLAM [193 words]raja believerMar 15, 2009 13:54152023
Ibn Masud, Allah or GOD [122 words]InfidelMar 15, 2009 18:51152023
Ibn Masud is mocking and insulting the great religion of his ancestors the Hindus in favor of the arabs and Islam proves his inferiority compelx [586 words]dhimmi no moreMar 15, 2009 19:26152023
learn about Islam from a non Arab? really? this is like us studying urdu and urdu culture from your masters the Arabs [63 words]dhimmi no moreMar 15, 2009 19:32152023
studying the disturbed and deluded [167 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 15, 2009 20:58152023
why are you mocking then [96 words]SamMar 16, 2009 00:27152023
muslim history unpallatable to Ibnmasud? [25 words]leighMar 16, 2009 01:09152023
The imperialism of the Arabs must be the ultimate imperialsim of all times [228 words]dhimmi no moreMar 16, 2009 07:36152023
Can Jewish people go to Mecca and Medina ? [75 words]samMar 16, 2009 13:08152023
Ibn Masud, Needs a course in Deductive Logic [102 words]raja believerMar 16, 2009 23:29152023
Prophet of Islam (PBUH) [98 words]MohammedMar 17, 2009 16:51152023
Our dear Mohammed and the other Muhammad [673 words]dhimmi no moreMar 17, 2009 18:59152023
Prophet of Islam [107 words]S.AliMar 17, 2009 22:49152023
Infidel: Before you argue about Islam, Go and Learn Quran carefully. [51 words]Ibn MasudMar 18, 2009 01:48152023
dhimmi: Your understanding of Quran is like Abu Jahaal, who ended up in Hell [59 words]Ibn MasudMar 18, 2009 01:54152023
dhimmi: Like you, we did not come here to make money. We were sent here for your benefit. [52 words]Ibn MasudMar 18, 2009 02:02152023
Lahol -bila- khuwat [157 words]raja believerMar 18, 2009 06:31152023
Correction [47 words]MohammedMar 18, 2009 12:26152023
my mistake [196 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 18, 2009 17:53152023
Response to Dhimmi [142 words]MohammedMar 18, 2009 17:57152023
the case of the priapistic, promiscuous prophet [68 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 18, 2009 18:04152023
To Dhimmi: Power of Islam [49 words]MohammedMar 18, 2009 18:16152023
Our dear Ibn Masud a victim of Arabian imperialism [255 words]dhimmi no moreMar 18, 2009 18:30152023
the odour of hypocrisy [212 words]the Grand Infide of KaffiristanMar 18, 2009 18:49152023
It seems that by his poor Muslim logic our dear Ibn masud worships idols and dollars. Read and enjoy [358 words]dhimmi no moreMar 18, 2009 18:52152023
Ibn Masud, Muslims and Jews [50 words]InfidelMar 18, 2009 19:45152023
Was Prophet of Islam superior to all prophets? [184 words]johnMar 18, 2009 23:41152023
It's all porky [133 words]raja believerMar 19, 2009 06:43152023
Our dear Ibn Masud is acting against his Allah's grand plans [394 words]dhimmi no moreMar 19, 2009 07:48152023
The Last or Lust Prophet [169 words]raja believerMar 19, 2009 07:51152023
What !!! [72 words]JaladhiMar 19, 2009 18:16152023
dhimmi: quit making a fool of yourself with your inferiority complex [102 words]Ibn MasudMar 20, 2009 00:24152023
As if [207 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 20, 2009 02:00152023
Here we go again and how many muslims in the US! and the bogus claim that islam is the fastest growing religion in the US [118 words]dhimmi no moreMar 20, 2009 07:28152023
babbling 3Ai'sha revisited [198 words]dhimmi no moreMar 20, 2009 07:37152023
Don't compare Saints with Prophets [250 words]MansoorMar 20, 2009 09:42152023
To Raja:Prophet's revelations [34 words]SunnyMar 20, 2009 12:01152023
Know them by their fruits warned Yeshua [27 words]leighMar 21, 2009 02:14152023
Islamic delusions and we only tell you what your islamic sources tell us [684 words]dhimmi no moreMar 21, 2009 08:15152023
To Dhimmi: Ayesha's age [66 words]MohammedMar 21, 2009 14:07152023
Religion has to be spiritual without ceasing to be rational & ethical [253 words]raja believerMar 21, 2009 15:07152023
ToGrand Infidel: Power of Islam [88 words]MohammedMar 21, 2009 15:09152023
more wishful thinking [739 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanMar 21, 2009 22:41152023
the little green book said it was Ok ,officer. [147 words]the Grand Infide of KaffiristanMar 21, 2009 22:54152023
Add this to Quran [193 words]raja believerMar 22, 2009 00:52152023
our dear Ibn masud and Muslim logic. For the readers: read and enjoy [306 words]dhimmi no moreMar 22, 2009 08:11152023
The 3A'isha saga goes on and on [235 words]dhimmi no moreMar 22, 2009 08:25152023
Differing Times [17 words]wotthefiqhMar 22, 2009 10:54152023
Real Fastest Growing Religion Is Christainity, Not Islam [34 words]AnneMMar 22, 2009 17:46152023
great advice [143 words]the Grand Infide of KaffiristanMar 22, 2009 21:29152023
response to "Infidel" [105 words]Job HaddawayMar 22, 2009 22:44152023
Job Haddaway, read the Qur'an [86 words]InfidelMar 23, 2009 20:48152023
To Job, Mohammed ,Masud: Ref. to Quran [33 words]JohnMar 24, 2009 12:20152023
Your language is offemsive [165 words]DonMar 24, 2009 21:58152023
Interesting [54 words]DonMar 25, 2009 20:25152023
John: Why then people in the world are becoming Muslims in an alarming rate? [36 words]Earl DMar 26, 2009 17:53152023
EarlD's illusion about world becoming Muslim at an alarming rate!!! [77 words]JaladhiMar 29, 2009 18:12152023
How to look for guidance when a book abounds with 'faults' [86 words]B.N.GururajApr 12, 2009 09:20152023
No David I think dhimmi has a case [105 words]SimonApr 14, 2009 22:42152023
Search for Wisdom [105 words]AhamedApr 21, 2009 16:52152023
Jews in the Hijaz and the biggest literary fraud in the history of mankind revisited [224 words]dhimmi no moreApr 25, 2009 15:34152023
Abuna Zack..he is the man! [166 words]SimonApr 29, 2009 01:18152023
Jesus was a Jew and never denied it- response to Leigh- Islam in American Textbooks [72 words]Anne- USAJun 8, 2009 21:46152023
Toward an Anti Islam Jihad [216 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 6, 2009 00:02152023
We can be optimistic [2 words]DonOct 6, 2009 23:12152023
Thank you Dhimmi No More- News I've been waiting for [290 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 14:50152023
To Ibn Masud- these are the kinds of lies that my folk have been fighting [131 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemisOct 8, 2009 15:19152023
Ibn Masud [111 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 15:33152023
To David Ehlem [11 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 15:37152023
Books again??? Ibn Masud you amaze me with your blindness [113 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 15:56152023
Ibn Masud! [12 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 15:59152023
Perhaps we should be looking in the Shaat alArab [15 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 16:08152023
It is truely said amongst my own folk [77 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 17:12152023
On Islam and other obsessions [160 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 17:36152023
Another [87 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 17:50152023
Is sex all that Islam about? [60 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 18:08152023
Ibn Masud [51 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 18:12152023
Ironic isn't it? [25 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 18:47152023
Rumi was also NOT an Arab [15 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 19:17152023
Mansoor [27 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 19:27152023
Islam is the fastest growing religion??? [43 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 19:51152023
Yes, send him to the Georgia mountains HA HA HA [10 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 19:59152023
Amen Raja [5 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 20:10152023
Ahamed, the choice is yours [26 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 20:26152023
To Don [31 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 8, 2009 20:53152023
Ancient Books of History [45 words]beauty4ashesJan 16, 2010 10:32152023
Many authors [28 words]b soetoroJan 17, 2010 07:04152023
And so is the Qur'an [177 words]dhimmi no moreJan 23, 2010 12:56152023
Many authors [26 words]b soetoroJan 24, 2010 11:12152023
The Qur'an did not drop from the sky [90 words]dhimmi no moreJan 24, 2010 13:39152023
1Yeah, yeah ... before Abraham there was Ishmael, right? [71 words]Franco L'italianoSep 28, 2010 00:55152023
The islamic historical tradition and the Jews of Mecca and Medina [135 words]dhimmi no moreSep 29, 2010 08:01152023
saracens [134 words]abrahamApr 27, 2013 09:46152023
SARACENS AND MAVIA [137 words]tishMar 25, 2014 01:57152023

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