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the logic of A. J. Cristol
Reader comment on item: The Liberty Incident: The 1967 Israeli Attack on the U.S. Spy Ship
in response to reader comment: AMERICAN LOSSES

Submitted by Bryan (Canada), Apr 9, 2006 at 21:05

Having closely read Cristol's book it is very hard not to agree with his conclusions. Some of you call for a new investigation into the entire matter. Why? If both sides do an "open and transparent" investigation and come up with the same conclusion that the incident was a mistake, most of you (Ennes and Co.) will simply dismiss the investigation as a white wash or just further evidence of a coverup as you have will all other investigations, including Cristol's.

As a Canadian, and a professional historian, I feel I am pretty unbiased in the matter. I have read the reports and the investigations. And looked at the various works on the subject and have reached very much the same conclusions as Cristol.

Ennes: I am proud of your enthusiasm, but have you ever thought that you are chasing ghosts? What is the motive that you are looking for? Why did you turn down an interview with Cristol? This was your opportunity to offer your side of the story to him. What were you hiding? Just because he has a different interpretation of the events does not mean that your account would not be taken into consideration. That is how a balanced historical work is written. You have to take both sides of the argument, weigh them against the facts and draw the most logical conclusion. Ennes, your book "Assault on the Liberty" recieved exactly this criticism in 1980, why have you not taken these criticisms, by actual professional historians, into consideration? The answer is simple: because historical analysis of the facts proves otherwise.

Cristol's book lays this matter to rest.


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Interviews of Survivors [79 words]mikeDec 29, 2007 11:06
Why does Israel and the US government fear an open honest investigation under oath if it was an accident? [81 words]Jeff DavisJul 24, 2007 00:48
Intent presupposes reason [182 words]DemetrisJun 28, 2007 08:51
AMERICAN LOSSES [63 words]marc melchioriFeb 15, 2006 12:45
⇒ the logic of A. J. Cristol [271 words]BryanApr 9, 2006 21:05
"Mistaken Identity" [217 words]Joseph GrazianoNov 18, 2005 16:37
Easy Pickins! Prove Cristol's claim, win $10,000 [52 words]T. TaylorJun 8, 2005 06:44
With all due respect... [299 words]Adam J. BernayMay 1, 2005 02:57
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And the beat goes on [245 words]Ronald G. KukalJun 25, 2003 08:16
Only opinions? Balderdash [170 words]James EnnesJun 24, 2003 20:16
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Opinions, not facts [119 words]American-IsraeliMay 9, 2006 17:00
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