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Hind Samy

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in response to reader comment: Abdul Rahman - Christian ? Muslim ? Execution ?

Submitted by JustMe (United States), Mar 30, 2006 at 16:46

Is there the same consequence in the Qur'an 4:15 for men as it has set out for women?

Qur'an 4:15 "If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death claims them." Can a woman do the same to her husband when he's lewd? Can she confind him to the house until he dies?

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Qur'an 4:34 "[4:34] The men are made responsible for the women, and GOD has endowed them with certain qualities, and made them the bread earners. The righteous women will cheerfully accept this arrangement, since it is GOD's commandment, and honor their husbands during their absence. If you experience rebellion from the women, you shall first talk to them, then (you may use negative incentives like) deserting them in bed, then you may (as a last alternative) beat them. If they obey you, you are not permitted to transgress against them. GOD is Most High, Supreme." Can a woman also do these things to her husband if he rebels? Can she beat her husband if talking and cutting him off doesn't work?

I didn't put all those parenthesis in there. I copied and pasted. Also, I didn't use the Tabari verse in my next response as you said you didn't believe in it. I used the two from the Qur'an as you requested. But I did reference this to Anonymous as out of the Qur'an as I can see that was my mistake. (Mar 29 2006 at 15:57) This was where I had read the reference to women being like domestic animals: -- Tabari IX:113 "Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur'an." This person is saying that's what the Qur'an says. The BS of which I am talking about is wherever this misunderstanding is coming from, and how it is affecting so many people, men and women, right now. It is a part of Islamic teachings, isn't it? It seems to be practiced in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iran, and elsewhere.
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