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Israelis vs. Diaspora Jews Compared to Kurds

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in response to reader comment: The Kurdish Conflict: Enter at your own peril.

Submitted by Robert (United States), Dec 17, 2016 at 05:22

Dear Michael S.,

Regarding Peace through a Two-State Solution, I want to point out that Jews has always been divided on the solution to anti-Antisemitism since formulation of Zionism by Herzl in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. It didn't even become an option for Herzl that a Jewish state should take root in Palestine in the beginning. And in England and America notable Jews were concerned that a Jewish state would compromise their loyalty or citizenship status. Today the establishment in Israel no longer views a new Palestinian state as a viable option; where as in the United State it is the Liberal Jews and Secular Jews, as opposed to the Orthodox and Hasidim who support Israel's policies of refusing to give in to the Palestinians, Muslims, and Christians of the World particularly through the United Nations view of a Quixotic fantasy of a viable alleged Palestinian State at Peace with Israel or Jews. And one should not forget Ze'ev Jabotinsky and Menachem Begin and the Stern Gang, as the minority during the formative years of Israel when David Ben-Gurion represented the majority Jewish polity.

From this perspective the Kurds are not doing poorly. Some sort of Confederation may emerge. I am not concerned with how they will come to terms with living with one another. The fact is that they are the only people in that region of the world who are Muslim and who can form a viable State that will not disintegrate in to a Failed State.

The issue, rather, is Recognition. Only the United States, and perhaps Israel, are capable, or even willing, to see the Good in the assistance of Kurdistan. Their dynamic is in that direction. The rest of the Muslim or Arab countries in that Neighborhood have literally nothing to offer but Religious War(s), Tribalism, Ethnic Cleansing, and Genocide.

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