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Palestine after the So-Called "Arab Spring"

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Submitted by Robert (United States), Sep 27, 2017 at 08:11

In the United States, after Obama's Election,
the struggle against Racism continues on the Left
as if nothing happened since the 1960's.
Part of that is a widespread belief that discrimination against Islam, or Islamism,
is a form of Racism - as if being Muslim is a Race.

But if you recall your American history,
our constitutional Religious Liberty
is not for the benefit of Religion,
but protect Americans against being imposed upon
by the Religion of your neighbor;
Religion is relegated to the Ream of the Private.

Now the Arab Spring relates to all Arabs and other Muslims
regarding the Religion of Islam as it evolves into Islamism
and breeds ISIS, Muslim Brotherhood, Gullenism, etc.

The Palestinians, as mostly Arab Muslims are a part of that Religious Culture.
Therefore, denying them Statehood in the foreseeable future
by other Sovereign States (of the UN), in the context of the evolving Arab Spring
is the right thing to do, particularly in view of neo-Islamic history
in Iran, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, etc.

Denying currently a state to the Palestinians
certainly isn't Racist.
And cultural and religious discrimination is appropriate;
The League of Nations did not instantly grant or approve Independence.
Rather, it created the status of a Mandate, as in the case of the British Mandate over Palestine.
When, or if, the Palestinians will be "ready" for statehood is an open empirical question.
What they produced in Gaza is a warring enemy of Israel.
And in the West Bank their is the aging, out-of-off & no-elections aging dictator Abbas.

I rather suspect that the Sunni Arab states will make Peace with Israel,
and only after that will there be hope that Palestinians will embrace Modernity
and become prepared to accept Israel as a sovereign Jewish state for the foreseeable "Forever."

Looking further down the Road of History,
maybe Arab Iraq and Syria
is the Natural because Historical
Homeland of the Palestinians,
and they should have the Right to Settle in Iraq and Syria,
and help rebuild it, as its Arab Sons and Daughters.
Why not?
Its what the Jews of Europe, West Asia, and North Africa did,
after the Holocaust and the Founding of Israel
when the World was mostly Anti-Semitic.
ISIS is real - and Iraq and Syria are the homelands of Arabs.
The idea that Stability should be maintained
when these unstable countries were assigned borders
by incompetent British bureaucrats
is what needs to be challenged.
Allowing Palestinians to settle in a prosperous Iraq and Syria
is the way to Peace and stability,
and not today by creating another Failing, or doomed to fail, Arab State.
Again, this isn't Racism,
because Culture and Religion
are essentially independent of "Race,"
whatever "Race" is today.
Palestinians are failing,
not because of their Race,
but because of their Culture and Religion.

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