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Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan (Australia), Jan 21, 2010 at 19:55

Mr Iffat from the US writes:

"The KALAM is TRUE. Holding this KALAM is trustworthy.IT shows every aspect & every face of human inside,& outside. Whoever want satisfactory &safe path of life, should hold IT as IT guaranties for ETERNAL SUCCESS. "

That's wonderful, Mr Iffat - but you don't then give an explanation of whatever Islamic gibberish it is you are talking about. I've had to rely on my own resources to find:

  1. God is an absolute unity, and no attribute can be ascribed to Him.
  2. Man is a free agent. It is on account of these two principles that the Mu'tazilities designate themselves the "Partisans of Justice and Unity".
  3. All knowledge necessary for the salvation of man emanates from his reason; humans could acquire knowledge before, as well as after, Revelation, by the sole light of reason. This fact makes knowledge obligatory upon all men, at all times, and in all places.

"The place of kalam in Islamic thought has been controversial throughout history. Many traditional Sunni Muslim scholars have criticized or outright prohibited it, including the well known "Four Imams". Abu Hanifa prohibited his students from engaging in kalam, stating in his view that those who practice it are from the "retarded ones."[1] Malik ibn Anas referred to kalam in the Islamic religion as being "detested"[2], and that whoever "seeks the religion through kalam will deviate".[3] In addition, Muhammad Shafi'i said that no advice on knowledge of Islam can be gained from books of kalam, as kalam "is not from knowledge"[4][5] and that "It is better for a man to spend his whole life doing whatever Allah has prohibited - besides shirk with Allah - rather than spending his whole life involved in kalam."[6] Ahmad ibn Hanbal also spoke strongly against kalam, stating his view that no one looks into kalam unless there is "corruption in his heart,"[7] and even went so far as to prohibit sitting with people practicing kalam even if they were defending the Sunnah,[8] and instructing his students to warn against any person they saw practicing kalam.[9]

In fact - even after reading all this - I still don't know what you are talking about - but get the sense most Muslims think that what you believe is an abomination. In which case there is probably an element of truth in it - so I'm prepared to hear more . However the topic here we are trying to focus on is Geert Wilders and his position that Muslim culture and Western culture cannot successfully coexist. i.e. proving the adage that Muslim immigration is nature's way of saying that multiculturalism is a bad thing.

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