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Submitted by Nura (United States), Jul 12, 2008 at 03:47

You're going to use the syncrestism argument? I've found that via wikipedia.

Okay, here's the deal: Jesus said to Peter: I give you the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven. Whatever you bind on Earth shall be bound in Heaven, whatever you loose on Earth shall be loosed Heaven.

The reason why certain traditions like the Christmas tree and Easter eggs were incorporated was to convert pagans, that is, get them to accept Jesus. However, none of the Christian teachings were compromised.

They were saved because of it.

So taking part in secular festivities that no longer have pagan significance hardly means that Christianity is paganism.

Throughout the history of religion there have always been deviations. Syncrestism is an aspect of that deviation. This is why in Islam we are very strict on practicing the religion as we were instructed from the Prophet(PBUH). Unfortunately, the religion that was sent with Jesus(PBUH) shows very little remnants in Christanity these days.

None of the Christian teachings were comprised? You made an oxymornic statement. How can the incorporation of pagan beliefs preserve the religion? Let's say the intention was to save the pagans, why was not the traditions stopped later rather than making them a foremost part of the religion? Doesn't the Bible speak against Christmas trees?

Jeremiah

10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

10:5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

You can interpret this however you like, but it is clear that the adornment of trees was a pagan ritual that was shunned. How then can Christians reclaim it?

Ah, secular festivities is what they are now? I hardly call Easter and Christmas secular. Despite your perceptions, you agree that Christians allowed paganism in their Church in order to win the popularity of the masses. Do you realize what you are saying? Let's take it a step further and say that the Trinity was also incorporated to win the popularity of the pagans! Why is this so hard to believe when you know that this has happened in Christmas and Easter? It was actually a pagan King, Constantine, who "converted" to Christianity that actually created the doctrine of the Trinity. In addition, any Christian who did not accept this doctrine was killed.

There is more to the egg in Easter than you stated. Actually Easter was named after the goddess of spring or rebirth. There are actually many names for this goddess depending on language, most commonly called Eastre, however Ishtar is also a known name. This goddess was known for her love of rabbits and she is believed to have come to earth in an giant egg. When these ancient Babylonians were celebrating this holiday they would decorate eggs and have a feast. Ever wondered why rabbits lay eggs on Easter?

I have really did allot of research on pagan rituals that exist in Christianity from communion, to speaking in tongue. It's really amazing.

Valentine was a saint and a Pope, and Valentine's Day was conceived by the writings of English writer Geoffery Chaucer in the Middle Ages. So, I guess the ties to Hera and Zeus's wedding really aren't apparent, especially since there is a month margin of error.

Who is Cupid then? If this started out as a religious holiday, why is it now celebrated with alcohol and fornication? Why don't people go to the church for this day? Valintines Day is nothing more that an ancient pagan fertility festival.

Thanks, but those weren't named by the Church.

Did the church condemn these names? They were named by those who called themselves Christians.

It's my understanding that to name a planet Mohammed would incite concerns over idolatry?

Where did this understanding come from? If it an authentic Hadith ,I can understand the reasoning considering what the Greeks and Romans did! Islam protects it's believers from idolatry.

Today, it's countless Muslims who converting. I wonder what Mr. Durant would say about that?

He would probably say why nuke Iran then?

If Muslims are converting at an unprecedented rate, then the worlds problem is solved! By your testimony we should all be

Christians in the next decade especially with the Missionary "Bible For Food" programs.

Oh, it stems from it, yes. Mohammed knew of Catholics, I'm sure. But like every other religion that's come from us, things were changed for some convienent motive.

It would be safer to say that he knew of Christians, Catholics are a sect. In fact, a Christian King in Ethiopia gave Muslims asylum when they were being persecuted. Why? Because he said that they worshiped the same God. He later became Muslim.

Despite the fact that Our Prophet(PBUH) knew Christians hardly proves that Islam came from them. It's really not a great mystery how Islam came. It is simply a succession of religion since Adam, hence the similarities. They came from the same source, that is why there are similarities.

Nura, the USA is a secular country and doesn't govern by prophecy

Really? What is the New World Order then? Why must Israel exist? Why were Jews given that land? It's all based on Biblical prophesy! How else could they steal the land and justify it? Why was Bush called The prince of Magog when he visited Israel recently? The Bush scroll was given to him. You should read it it's very interesting.

http://www.templeinstitute.org/megillat-...

According to the Israel project, Israel supports and maintains key holy places, even Muslim ones. Radical, belligerent Muslims seek to dominate them. I'll even bet that's the reason they have a mosque in Jerusalem: just to show how much better than every other religion Islam is.

Wow! that's really wonderful. You should look into how such a great job their doing with Al Aqsa. We have a mosque in Jerusalem because it is the site where our Prophet(PBUH) went to heaven during the night journey. How is this showing that we are better? How many Churches and synagogues are in Jerusalem? Please, what kind argument is that?

Many mujahedeen would regard you as an infidel, Nura, despite your attempts to defend Islam on here.

Where? Where's your proof?

Actually, most Muslim-majority nations have systems of government that can heavily regulate any type of foreign influence. It's called sharia law. The key is enforcement, Nura, not policy.

That is simply a misrepresentation. Haven't you heard anything I said? Muslim governments support Western influence! They are all puppets working for perks. Are they going to allow a challenge to their power and existence by the Islamic awakening of their people? People who ask "Why are we not supporting are brothers" People who ask "Why do we have a King when it is against Islam?" Come on, politics is politics. These government could care less about the Sharia. Things are not always what they seem.

Sharia law is much more than capital punishment. In fact, there are only a few situations that require it so why do people like you continue to talk about Sharia as if you know what it is! Sharia Law govern every aspect of Islamic life. It gave women the right to own property and inherit. It gave children,animals,and the poor rights. It prohibits forcing women to marry a man she does not want. I could go on for pages on aspects of sharia law which is very dense. Corporal punishment has a very,very, minute part is this law. Convenient to ignore everything else.

What bin laden is really mad about is that fact that Western female soldiers were in Riyadh in 1991 defending his homeland while the mujaheedin were nowhere to be found as Saddam bombed their country.

He also thinks the price of oil is still too low.

He should be happy now! The crisis is over.

Well, I've seen his tapes translated on CNN and he didn't mention anything about female solders. Wow, that is a new response. You hear something new everyday. I think he made it clear why he is so angry. If it was only female soldiers why didn't he just wage a Jihad against them?

That is a lie. Islamism was designed to spread by war.

Jesus said:

Luke 12:51

Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Profound statement. Only a believer truly understand what this means. In case Dhimmie is reading, Muslims acknowledge that Jesus was a prophet and that he was given the Gospel. As Muslims we believe that the book was corrupted, however, the Quran has revealed the truth in it. As Muslims we can distinguish the truth from the corruption. This is why I quote the Bible.

Islam is designed to be a light that will never go out. It is a promise from Allah. If this is what you speak of, then Allah's religion must reign supreme,however, we know that conversions under the sword does not count. We do not kill to convert, unlike so-called Christians, it would be counterproductive.

So you think that one Islamic state is a threat to the world?

We understand they want us all dead. They should come out and fight like real mujaheedin if God is really on their side.

Ah, here we go. The real language of bigotry. Who is "we","they", and "us?"

I agree. Sharia law is immoral.

Prove it. If it is immoral then the Bible is immoral.

"But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence."

luke 19:27

exodos 21:12

21:4

If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself. 21:5 And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free:

21:6

Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever. 21:7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the

Exodus 21:7 says it's OK to sell your daughter into slavery.

21:8

If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her. 21:9 And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters. 21:10 If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.

21:15

And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. (21:15, 17)
Kill unruly children
A child who hits or curses his parents must be executed.

21:16

And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.

21:17 And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.

21:24

Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,

21:25

Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

21:28

If an ox gore a man or a woman, that they die: then the ox shall be surely stoned, and his flesh shall not be eaten; but the owner of the ox shall be quit.

21:29

But if the ox were wont to push with his horn in time past, and it hath been testified to his owner, and he hath not kept him in, but that he hath killed a man or a woman; the ox shall be stoned, and his owner also shall be put to death.

21:32

If the ox shall push a manservant or a maidservant; he shall give unto their master thirty shekels of silver, and the ox shall be stoned.

17:13

And Joshua discomfited Amalek and his people with the edge of the sword

19:12

And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death:

19:13

There shall not an hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live: when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up to the mount

22:18

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

22:19 Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death.

31:14

Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

32:27

And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.
32:28 And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men

30:20

When they go into the tabernacle of the congregation, they shall wash with water, that they die not; or when they come near to the altar to minister, to burn offering made by fire unto .

30:21

So they shall wash their hands and their feet, that they die not: and it shall be a statute for ever to them, even to him and to his seed throughout their generations.

You said that the law was tough because the Hebrews had no social order, what was the Kingdom of David and Solomon?

These laws are much more sever than ANY law in Sharia. Are you going to say that the Bible is immoral?

Looking at the literacy rates, I would say, no, not all Muslims know it.

Huh, that was a low blow. No additional comment needed.

God has blessed us would be more appropriate. We didn't get to where we are by letting God do all the work for us.

Tell me why would God bless this nation considering how it was founded? If this nation is blessed then the rich nations of Muslims is also blessed. Imagine the worlds most valuable asset being in the hands of Muslims. In the sacred land of Muslims. Muslims are among the richest individuals in the world. This economy not only relies on their oil, but their investments. In short, if those rich Arabs took their money out of this country, our stock market would crash. Simple as that.

It is obvious that wealth and power is not the keys to salvation, in-fact, it is the opposite. For you to say that this nation is blessed solely because it is powerful, I would only say again that Allah gives power,for a time, to whom he wills. All power and wealth belongs to Allah and he will make this very clear to whomever does not perceive it now. The history of great civilizations is that they always fall. My question for you is how do they usually fall? From an outside foe? Or, from within?

But you can't, Nura. Heck, you won't even leave the USA for one, so you're hardly in a position to be telling Saudi Arabia to shut its doors!

I never said that Saudi should shut it's door, but I guess that could work too. In fact, I believe there was a King who tried that. He was killed in a coo I believe. I wonder who was behind that? I promise, if Saudi shuts it's door I will be on the next plan out of here. It will get crazy very quick.

The reason why, Nura, Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Muslim world cannot do this are because they need our water and our food. It's as simple as that. Muslims love to brag about their numbers, but they are mum on the environmental implications. Your countries cannot support themselves, Nura. That is why they have the relations with the West.

We need the energy, they need the sustenance.

Really? I guess the Muslim world was importing water from Europe all this time. How were they eating before Western influence? In fact, they were doing quite well. That's the latest! Oil for food indeed.

Religion doesn't feed people, give them drink or shelter.

Matthew 14:30-31... But when he [Peter] saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me. And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?

Religion brings faith and faith can fill empty bellies. Our prophet told us that there will come a day when the only food of the believer will be with the words "There is no God but Allah." It is faith that will feed and give shelter during the trials to come.People who have little of it will be the ones who go hungry.

Really? So harboring terrorists in Afghanistan and giving them infrastructure and training camps means "HAD NO involvement?"

Your using a phrase that was invented specifically for The War On Terror. There is no Ethical concept that condones war because of "Harboring" a would be terrorist. Especially when there was no proof. When did "guilty by affiliation" become ethical? The Taliban had NO involvement in 911 and neither did Saddam.

Finally, you're starting to see it from the nation-state perspective. It's about individual sovereignity, Nura. France has just as much to gain from a weaker USA as Russia does. Why do you think they don't support the Iraq War? Some higher moral principle?

No, they want the USA to weaken. France has always felt threatened by the Anglo-Saxon imprints of North American and the UK, and don't let any bleeding-heart English-speaking liberal tell you otherwise.

So why is it more ethical when the West seeks sovereignty? Is this not a hypocrisy? The law of the fittest is why. The strongest makes the rules that the world must comply to. I know that there are allot of "interests" at stake, I'm not one-dimensional. Everyone wants a piece of the pie that is the oil rich Middle East, so jealousy is normal.

The reason why these countries were attacked wasn't because they were Islamic, Nura. Somalia was destabilizing and becoming a threat to its neighbors, the Taliban harbored terrorists who killed innocent people, and Saudi Arabia struck Israel first.

You keep believing that. I'm not fooled. Then why was the Caliphate destroyed?

The secularists won't fit into the picture for long if the zealots have their way. First order of business to ruling the world: clean your own house! Hilter knew it all to well!

Why do people keep comparing Islam to Nazism? In case you forgot Hitler was a Christian who justified what he did by the Bible. He said that Jews had the mark of Caan. He's your shame not ours.

Because that would be a lie, and it sounds like something al Jazeera would say to get more Muslims to be paranoid.

Aljazeera is an Arabic news channel. It has Muslim and Christian Arabs who anchor and report and I would hardly call them the mouthpiece for Sharia Law considering you barely see a woman with her hair covered on the show.

Turkey doesn't belong in the EU, and it's still a sorry excuse for a secular nation with all the persecution of Christians.

I guess religious Muslims got it better? Muslim women can't wear a scarf to work or school, how's that for persecution.

Don't put words in my mouth, Nura. Freedom is a small part to this, and I'm not so sure it's worth American lives to give ungrateful Muslims freedom. But my roommate was from Iraq, and he said the USA does good things over there. You sound just like some cocky kid trying to out-debate everyone on here, but it won't work with me.

Yea, they are ungrateful because they are tired of their wives,mother,fathers,sisters,brothers, and children would have to die for that freedom. They didn't read the fine print. I could care less what your roommate thinks. Is he there now? Ask him how is the water.

I see Iraqi's asking for Saddam back on Al Jazzeera. At-least they had clean water and regular electricity. I am 27 years old, beyond the "kid" category. I was on the debate team in High School, won a few trophies actually, that was a long time ago.

You may be more experienced and older than me, but, I have learned long, long ago that men mature much slower than women. I also learned that age does not bring wisdom. Wisdom, not knowledge, is the gift that we could all hope for. Unlike money and power, only the blessed gets it. David was only a boy when he slew Goliath.

"He who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death.

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For Nura/1 [2249 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJul 14, 2008 16:08132756
For Nura/2 [2537 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJul 14, 2008 16:10132756
Following in True Faith Not Hypocrisy [72 words]M. ToveyJul 14, 2008 18:09132756
True Witness of Jesus Christ Comes From His Love-Anger Comes From Unbelief in Him [996 words]M. ToveyJul 17, 2008 14:01132756
Never ever attack Israel. [684 words]ParvezSep 26, 2008 00:33132756
Israel's Destiny According to Her Almighty God in His Holy Word is Already Promised - Including Suffering the Final Indignities [82 words]M. ToveySep 26, 2008 18:34132756
do you still believe in Zohar HaKadosh ? [43 words]sTsDec 16, 2008 02:18132756
Irans regime of the mollahs should be taken to justice and military action against their nuces and the revolutionary guards is the only solution [30 words]TIRDAD GHARIBJun 19, 2008 09:02132622
He should. [23 words]Don MeakerJun 18, 2008 21:52132550
Why is Pakistan being Ignored ? [220 words]Proud IndianJun 18, 2008 09:58132487
You are right [27 words]NowheremanJun 18, 2008 20:12132487
Understandable injustice of sorts [129 words]JayJun 18, 2008 00:01132451
An Obama Win and his intended foreign policy vis-a-vis Iran [18 words]sara sterzerJun 16, 2008 21:50132321
I aggree to Sara . [144 words]HUNDEPOPELJun 18, 2008 22:11132321
WMD is an EXCUSE. Once again [29 words]inevitableJun 15, 2008 20:17132232
inevitable, and his illusions [25 words]InfidelJun 16, 2008 20:42132232
WMD is an excuse? [238 words]PDMJun 17, 2008 21:10132232
Facts about oil that the move-on left doesn't want you to know about [57 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 23, 2008 16:40132232
WMD is an EXCUSE once again ( remember IRAQ?) [27 words]inevitableJun 25, 2008 10:46132232
To PDM -- on Iraqi oil [98 words]inevitableJun 25, 2008 11:07132232
To Straight talk luigi [70 words]inevitableJun 25, 2008 11:22132232
Old and inaccurate information [66 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 25, 2008 18:19132232
Inevitable, here is your chance [38 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 25, 2008 18:27132232
inevitable, fabricated knowledge [141 words]InfidelJun 26, 2008 13:59132232
inevitable, more fabrications [235 words]InfidelJun 26, 2008 14:16132232
Oil facts - whether you like it or not [82 words]PrideJun 27, 2008 11:53132232
At least he gave a source [60 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 28, 2008 17:14132232
Who cares if a few muslims learn how to fly airliners [21 words]PDMJun 15, 2008 16:50132225
Enlisting anyone? [76 words]jjcometJun 15, 2008 12:56132212
Another Liberal War Recruiter? [68 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 28, 2008 23:15132212
Sometimes felt uncomfortable. [256 words]Elmo [ ... http://anechoicroom.blogspot.com/ ]Jun 15, 2008 08:56132198
Barack Hussein Obama speaks as if there is not a threat from Iran. [95 words]YnnatchkahJun 15, 2008 03:35132173
Who is a threat to whom ? [109 words]sTsJun 18, 2008 12:34132173
good question [22 words]spaJun 19, 2008 04:44132173
Middle Eastern women continue to cry out for help [195 words]ClaireJun 19, 2008 05:38132173
Who is Threatening Whom? [534 words]M. ToveyJun 19, 2008 13:42132173
Women in Islam [420 words]sTsJun 21, 2008 10:09132173
Claire - more on the treatment of women that should be in Islam [316 words]sTsJun 21, 2008 12:15132173
You people are so Tired!! [393 words]NuraJun 21, 2008 13:36132173
American interests [147 words]sTsJun 22, 2008 02:50132173
Great Nura, [22 words]sTsJun 22, 2008 05:40132173
But Nura, you still stay in USA dont you??? [112 words]Proud IndianJun 23, 2008 04:44132173
Israel Remains and Will Remain the Principal People in the Promised Land [315 words]M. ToveyJun 23, 2008 11:11132173
Reponse to Nura [1013 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 23, 2008 16:04132173
Disproving STS once more [508 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 23, 2008 16:18132173
Give me a break! [85 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 23, 2008 16:24132173
More knowledge for STS [176 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 23, 2008 16:29132173
That's pretty funny [19 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 23, 2008 16:42132173
Nura [37 words]btillyJun 23, 2008 19:13132173
Do Not Be Too Tired Yet -There is So Much More to Come-So Much More to be Prepared for According to the Hebrew Holy Scriptures [573 words]M. ToveyJun 23, 2008 19:39132173
Really? [223 words]NuraJun 23, 2008 23:46132173
Unfortunately, irony is lost on Muslim mindset [19 words]DevasahayamJun 24, 2008 13:53132173
Get over it [142 words]sTsJun 25, 2008 01:37132173
no peace [46 words]sTsJun 25, 2008 03:55132173
How Muslim women feel [62 words]sTsJun 25, 2008 07:02132173
response to Straight_Talk_Luigi [1575 words]NuraJun 25, 2008 11:59132173
No Peace for the Wicked [150 words]M. ToveyJun 25, 2008 19:16132173
Nothing to Get Over Except Unbelief [26 words]M. ToveyJun 25, 2008 19:20132173
For Nura, countering your points [3839 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 25, 2008 21:30132173
She's staying, proud Indian [77 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 25, 2008 21:50132173
Koran and Hadith on women [164 words]ClaireJun 26, 2008 00:29132173
1sTs--you are out of touch! [185 words]ClaireJun 26, 2008 00:40132173
That's nice, STS, but [69 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 26, 2008 12:58132173
Jesus in the future [275 words]sTsJun 27, 2008 05:52132173
Here you are - Proofs from the Bible [559 words]sTsJun 27, 2008 06:59132173
Values..... [317 words]NuraJun 27, 2008 11:12132173
Peace [14 words]NuraJun 27, 2008 11:18132173
Come one,you can do better than that [885 words]NuraJun 27, 2008 12:03132173
Women in the West [362 words]nuraJun 27, 2008 12:36132173
Exact same problem faced by Canada [46 words]DevasahayamJun 27, 2008 13:02132173
Also, Luigi A few facts that Western media DO NOT reveal [204 words]DevasahayamJun 27, 2008 13:16132173
Nura-societies aren't that different [264 words]ClaireJun 27, 2008 17:18132173
1sTs-let Islam return the lands it conquered prior to that! [104 words]ClaireJun 27, 2008 17:56132173
Tovey--Can't you just tell us? [91 words]ClaireJun 27, 2008 18:02132173
Women in the West live as human beings [318 words]ClaireJun 27, 2008 18:39132173
For Nura: On American values and judgement [1396 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 27, 2008 19:13132173
Doing "better", huh? [1570 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 27, 2008 21:08132173
Unfortunately they are staying here back in India too! [254 words]Proud IndianJun 28, 2008 01:31132173
Now Nura speaks of Divine Justice & response?? Funny we feel the same way about the plights of Muslims in the War torn Countries! [141 words]Proud IndianJun 28, 2008 03:42132173
sTs - the major difference [151 words]KiwiJun 28, 2008 05:09132173
Displacement of the people [301 words]sTsJun 28, 2008 11:30132173
Reasoning is the way to improve understanding [146 words]sTsJun 28, 2008 11:45132173
Our dear Samer and are we talking about the same Nura? [110 words]dhimmi no moreJun 28, 2008 17:27132173
Re: More facts on conversions [388 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 28, 2008 17:29132173
Our dear Nura and much more delusions [261 words]dhimmi no moreJun 28, 2008 17:46132173
sTs/Samer- How can you be so duplicitous and keep a straight face??? [441 words]saraJun 28, 2008 20:23132173
response to Straight_Talk_Luigi/3 [1473 words]NuraJun 28, 2008 21:37132173
Kashmir and the Left [41 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 28, 2008 23:18132173
Nura's posts and STS, Blogging, Facebook Comparison [172 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 28, 2008 23:24132173
IF your house is made of glass, don't throw stones on others [412 words]sTsJun 29, 2008 02:12132173
Food for thought [305 words]sTsJun 29, 2008 03:02132173
Nura: I ask again, why are you here? [60 words]ClaireJun 29, 2008 04:18132173
Leave them think what they want [71 words]sTsJun 29, 2008 10:02132173
Response to Claire [774 words]NuraJun 29, 2008 12:01132173
Dhimie is back to his childish taunting [608 words]NuraJun 29, 2008 13:10132173
The Bible, Jesus, Mohammed, America, Catholics and Islam Nura [3122 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 29, 2008 23:10132173
1Vatican, Church, Islam, Bible, Nura, Catholic Mass Source [1397 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 29, 2008 23:20132173
sTs - we already know the truth [750 words]KiwiJun 30, 2008 03:30132173
More drivel from our dear Nura [867 words]dhimmi no moreJun 30, 2008 06:41132173
Our dear Samer and a little "pillow talk" [143 words]dhimmi no moreJun 30, 2008 06:49132173
Living in America [178 words]sTsJun 30, 2008 07:16132173
Dissertations of Dissentions are not Proof-Discerning Truth Requires Faith in Jesus Christ [107 words]M. ToveyJun 30, 2008 12:05132173
No One Can Be Compared to Jesus Christ Except Almighty God the Father and the Holy Spirit [66 words]M. ToveyJun 30, 2008 12:11132173
High school all over again! [517 words]NuraJun 30, 2008 13:38132173
All That Can Be Said is Wnat is Written in the Holy Bible-Believing in Jesus Christ Helps to Discern the Truth [603 words]M. ToveyJun 30, 2008 14:13132173
Christian Behavior [115 words]NuraJun 30, 2008 15:10132173
Castigation Knows No Limits-Neither Muslim, nor Christian. [310 words]M. ToveyJun 30, 2008 18:53132173
Patroit Act, Western nations [1093 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 30, 2008 21:52132173
you are not far from the truth [64 words]sTsJul 1, 2008 01:13132173
Show us the real meaning [97 words]sTsJul 1, 2008 01:17132173
Response to Straight_Talk_Luigi /5 Prayer does not equal arrogance [1556 words]NuraJul 1, 2008 01:40132173
The poor are loved by God more than the rich [115 words]sTsJul 1, 2008 01:47132173
Almighty God Loves All-Saves all who Will Believe in Him in Faith Through Jesus Christ [224 words]M. ToveyJul 1, 2008 18:08132173
Response to M.Tovey/2 [525 words]NuraJul 2, 2008 11:11132173
A More Complete Response to the 'Proofs from the Bible' - Look for the Truth in the Bible, Not for Excuses of Unbelief. [949 words]M. ToveyJul 2, 2008 11:42132173
Almighty God the Father Gave Authority to Jesus Christ in the Holy Bible to Intercede in the Affairs of Government-and of Men, Women and Children [461 words]M. ToveyJul 2, 2008 16:39132173
Ambiguous explanations [692 words]sTsJul 3, 2008 01:27132173
Wrong Behavior by False Christianity Never Condoned By Almighty God-A Fact Understood by Correctly Reading the Hebrew Holy Scriptures [324 words]M. ToveyJul 3, 2008 11:47132173
The Quran and God's love [28 words]sTsJul 4, 2008 01:29132173
Very confusing !!! [51 words]sTsJul 4, 2008 11:52132173
Samer and fantasy [200 words]dhimmi no moreJul 4, 2008 12:05132173
renounce trinity and accept Mohammad and you will enter heavens [282 words]sTsJul 5, 2008 06:25132173
Our dear Nura and the caliphate [336 words]dhimmi no moreJul 5, 2008 18:40132173
Holy Bible Explains It All to Those Who Believe [22 words]M. ToveyJul 5, 2008 18:49132173
Who in the Quran died to Save Sinners from Sin? [34 words]M. ToveyJul 5, 2008 18:54132173
Our dear Samer says that some of his best friends are Christians and Jews! [155 words]dhimmi no moreJul 6, 2008 08:18132173
No Confusion in the Truth of the Holy Bible and in Jesus Christ the LORD [179 words]M. ToveyJul 7, 2008 10:29132173
There is No Ambiguity in the Truth of the Holy Bible, Answers Without Belief Cannot Reveal the Truth. [683 words]M. ToveyJul 7, 2008 14:21132173
The Truth Cannot be Denied - Almighty God the Father, Yeshua HaMashiach the Son (Ben David) and the Holy Spirit are Declared Truth in the Holy Bible [581 words]M. ToveyJul 7, 2008 16:30132173
Well, at least you're honest, sTs [312 words]ClaireJul 8, 2008 03:33132173
Jesus and sinners [138 words]sTsJul 9, 2008 02:42132173
Jesus Christ Saves Sinners by His Sacrifice on the Cross-By His Authority Given From Above. [355 words]M. ToveyJul 9, 2008 16:53132173
1No bearer of burden shall bear the burden of another [429 words]sTsJul 10, 2008 02:05132173
1The Difference Between the Holy Bible and Others-The Holy Bible Tells the Truth About Jesus Christ [567 words]M. ToveyJul 10, 2008 17:13132173
Jesus is alive [66 words]sTsJul 11, 2008 01:28132173
Our dear Samer and which Trinity is that? [172 words]dhimmi no moreJul 12, 2008 08:58132173
Confusing Jesus Christ with the Prophet Mohammed-Jesus Christ's Human Death and Resurrection is the Reason He is Alive-Not the Prophet Mohammed [198 words]M. ToveyJul 14, 2008 10:47132173
Our dear Nura and more drivel and oh "small English" [441 words]dhimmi no moreJul 16, 2008 06:48132173
Get over what? [429 words]dhimmi no moreJul 18, 2008 07:31132173
sTs it seems like violence is the only thing that will satisfy you [37 words]ClaireAug 2, 2008 03:58132173
I see the depth of your hatred now, sTs [47 words]ClaireAug 2, 2008 04:03132173
Women's rights [132 words]ClaireAug 2, 2008 04:23132173
The West and Islamic women [457 words]ClaireAug 2, 2008 05:00132173
Sounds like it fits [23 words]ClaireAug 2, 2008 06:04132173
Muslem Women [501 words]sTsAug 3, 2008 12:25132173
Jesus Christ is Revealed in the Holy Bible - It Fits Because He is Real and He is LORD [396 words]M. ToveyAug 4, 2008 10:45132173
We'll be around [59 words]Melvin A. FechterOct 19, 2014 18:26132173
Burdens of another [69 words]GregAug 24, 2016 04:29132173
Not a minute longer [45 words]Ahmad RahmanJun 14, 2008 10:18132111
guard your faith [48 words]tahirJun 17, 2008 06:07132111
Tahir, beyond the PALE [47 words]InfidelJun 17, 2008 17:37132111
People are so happy in Iran: Source of cries for help? [76 words]ClaireJun 19, 2008 05:43132111
Who did Iran Attack?: [29 words]NuraJun 22, 2008 01:04132111
Nura, confusion [75 words]InfidelJun 22, 2008 20:33132111
Who Will Iran Attack? [65 words]Proud IndianJun 23, 2008 00:35132111
1978 [28 words]M. ToveyJun 23, 2008 12:17132111
Iran is already fighting USA and Israel --NURA & STS [200 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 23, 2008 16:36132111
I am not confused [149 words]NuraJun 23, 2008 23:31132111
secretly wish? [140 words]NuraJun 24, 2008 00:04132111
Yea let's nuke them for the love of Freedom! [238 words]NuraJun 24, 2008 00:30132111
where was the Americans? [75 words]sTsJun 24, 2008 02:53132111
Off by one year [31 words]DevasahayamJun 24, 2008 15:39132111
Plus, another record [61 words]DevasahayamJun 24, 2008 15:46132111
Lebanese Responsible for Iranian Attack on American Embassy in Iran? [15 words]M. ToveyJun 24, 2008 18:50132111
Nura,I made the statement [414 words]InfidelJun 24, 2008 23:03132111
Nura - Victim of Stockholm Syndrome [367 words]Proud IndianJun 25, 2008 05:10132111
Correction of 1979 Acknowledged-1978 Last Year Ayatollah Khomeini Had For Planning His Islamic Revolution [285 words]M. ToveyJun 25, 2008 14:40132111
Nura, get a grip on reality [428 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 25, 2008 21:47132111
The West can't police the entire world [226 words]ClaireJun 26, 2008 00:06132111
Not only Muslim women [77 words]DevasahayamJun 26, 2008 07:29132111
response to Straight_Talk_Luigi/2 [200 words]NuraJun 27, 2008 15:14132111
Stockholm Syndrome- Look it up! [821 words]NuraJun 27, 2008 15:55132111
Nura-hankering to get back to the Middle East [394 words]ClaireJun 27, 2008 18:52132111
Europe and Wars [627 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 27, 2008 20:25132111
No thank you [93 words]sTsJun 30, 2008 07:25132111
Mullah's angle [97 words]ClaireAug 2, 2008 04:17132111
"Infidel" countries [19 words]ClaireAug 2, 2008 05:49132111
US Must Destroy Iran Nuclear Establishments [236 words]kamekishJun 14, 2008 02:23132080
OFF AND IN TOPIC - IRELAND VOTE [35 words]HUNDEPOPELJun 13, 2008 19:25132045
Who cares if Iran gets a nuke [12 words]GovtFluJun 13, 2008 14:35132020
Well Said [179 words]NowheremanJun 18, 2008 14:07132020
MOP funding and deployment. [136 words]ErikJun 13, 2008 03:54131972
back to the basics: his name is Obama if born outside of the US, Dunham if natural born citizen ! [191 words]MikeJun 13, 2008 00:37131956
No more war! [63 words]RockmelonJun 12, 2008 23:26131944
How to end war in Iraq [1548 words]Melvin A. FechterJun 12, 2008 22:34131934
Yes Yes [47 words]Charles StewartJun 13, 2008 20:52131934
M. A. Fechter, interesting article, but [209 words]InfidelJun 14, 2008 20:44131934
Reply to Infidel's response to Melvin A. Fechter [415 words]Melvin A. FechterJun 16, 2008 16:25131934
Melvin A. Fechter, a respectful response [336 words]InfidelJun 16, 2008 21:56131934
Response to Infidel's Misreading of my remarks [675 words]Melvin A. FechterJun 17, 2008 17:42131934
Human values [138 words]sTsJun 18, 2008 05:40131934
Response to S.T.S. (from U.A.E.) [393 words]Melvin A. FechterJun 18, 2008 20:01131934
sTs, more murderers needed (6,19,08) (132476) [113 words]InfidelJun 19, 2008 22:38131934
Look who is talking [147 words]sTsJun 20, 2008 17:08131934
sTs, practicing "Taqiyya" [229 words]InfidelJun 21, 2008 01:44131934
Deeds not words show the true men [403 words]sTsJun 22, 2008 06:09131934
Response to "sTs" [854 words]Melvin A. FechterJun 23, 2008 14:04131934
Read sTs to hear the muslims point of view [91 words]sTsJun 24, 2008 03:19131934
Yawn, Infidel. [10 words]Melvin A. FechterOct 20, 2009 23:55131934
USA will not attack Iran [140 words]adam poorshedJun 12, 2008 20:12131929
This is the Beginning of The End..... [160 words]IranJun 12, 2008 19:09131922
Iran's Preparation is Found in the Hebrew Holy Scriptures [1090 words]M. ToveyJun 12, 2008 18:36131919
Appeasement is not an option [291 words]Gabrielle CroftsJun 13, 2008 01:46131919
Prepare to attack the enemy before it reaches critical mass to attack Israel and Israel's allies- or die an horrific death in a launch of finality evil. [640 words]Gabrielle CroftsJun 20, 2008 10:29131919
1Dr. Pipes is Right [66 words]AlexJun 12, 2008 16:06131909
The Mahdee factor [54 words]J. HellerJun 12, 2008 12:25131894
Iran will have nuclear ballistic missiles in less than a year [265 words]Ken BesigJun 12, 2008 10:42131879
Are you sure of your tense? [42 words]DevasahayamJun 16, 2008 09:17131879
Good job [15 words]RainerJun 12, 2008 02:16131847
Talking smack in the Middle East [134 words]GeoPolitiksJun 11, 2008 23:40131820
Saudi Arabia -Saudi Arabs not Iranians attacked US on Sept 11. [735 words]SinghaJun 11, 2008 22:38131814
Iran More Dangerous Than Saudi Arabia [201 words]orange yonasonJun 13, 2008 02:01131814
1Wahabi Fascist are the best allies of US- that is the reason [63 words]SimonJun 13, 2008 07:23131814
Major Confusion [113 words]SinghaJun 15, 2008 01:53131814
GIVE ME THE PROOF [149 words]mohammedJun 16, 2008 05:56131814
Re; Problem is not with Arabs - Problem is with islam [214 words]SinghaJun 16, 2008 23:18131814
Saudi Arabia [151 words]btilly`Jun 18, 2008 22:52131814
Excellent point, Singha! [112 words]DevasahayamJun 19, 2008 08:34131814
prepare to attack Iran [225 words]robert fusfeldJun 11, 2008 21:42131810
WHATEVER THEY SAY ABOUT BUSH, THE FACT IS: [15 words]IamJosephJun 12, 2008 03:12131810
Interesting [239 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 12, 2008 10:58131810
Don't sell Obama short [102 words]john w mcginleyJun 11, 2008 19:07131805
For democrats [62 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 11, 2008 23:34131805
Don't oversell McCain ( He is too afraid to talk to Michael Savage) Sir. [174 words]james burkeJun 12, 2008 06:54131805
Don't Be So Sure [78 words]TerryJun 12, 2008 11:46131805
Naivete? [38 words]orange yonasonJun 13, 2008 02:13131805
McCain and Obama [402 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 13, 2008 17:02131805
1The Dhimmicrat clowns in the US Congress are more dangerous. [145 words]M.D'SouzaJun 11, 2008 16:09131793
Dhimmicrats' true colours shown by resolution timing [56 words]DevasahayamJun 12, 2008 07:25131793
Iran with nuclear weapons [125 words]Janusz KowalikJun 11, 2008 15:40131792
He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing [517 words]AdeimusJun 15, 2008 03:17131792
Reply: U.S. Must Prepare for War [106 words]shiny from floridaJun 11, 2008 14:21131789
Larijani, Iran and America will fail because of Robert Spencer to Barack Obama [680 words]Lame CherryJun 11, 2008 14:00131788
I disagree [366 words]Gabrielle CroftsJun 13, 2008 02:03131788
well... [129 words]mz ravin blackJun 11, 2008 12:55131781
The Approaching Storm [214 words]Rebecca MouldsJun 11, 2008 12:50131778
West have to accept a nuclear Iran [116 words]Asma BegumJun 12, 2008 04:01131778
Bush May Be Waiting Until After November? [160 words]orange yonasonJun 11, 2008 12:16131773
That could work--but with a cautionary [52 words]DevasahayamJun 12, 2008 14:37131773
ATTACKING IRAN AND THEIR TERROEIST PASSDAR BASIJ REVOLUTIONNARY GUARDS [147 words]TIRDAD GHARIBJun 11, 2008 10:45131765
russia-you're either in or your out! [68 words]gwwJun 11, 2008 10:36131762
war as an end means [395 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
richard d. paulJun 11, 2008 10:31131761
Agree [72 words]Lee BoylandJun 11, 2008 10:00131756
This account with Iran needs to be settled now! [223 words]Margaret HoodJun 11, 2008 09:41131752
NO CAMPAIGN RESPITE FOR IRAN [71 words]JOEL SPRAYREGENJun 11, 2008 09:41131749
gasoline [46 words]baneeshkhanJun 12, 2008 11:58131749
Entire post wrong [86 words]DevasahayamJun 13, 2008 15:35131749
Sorry, Daniel [115 words]Melvin A. FechterJun 11, 2008 09:17131743
Building up to a climax [15 words]Melvin A. FechterSep 1, 2012 20:46131743
lost in 2006 and 2008 [133 words]najadJun 11, 2008 08:35131740
Iran has future territorial ambitions? [23 words]TerryJun 12, 2008 11:51131740
Not Now [99 words]BlackspeareJun 12, 2008 18:42131740
What Iran wants [66 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiSep 1, 2008 00:17131740
Dream On, Khameini [44 words]Melvin A. FechterJul 16, 2012 14:15131740
What Iran will get and when [37 words]Melvin A. FechterApr 8, 2014 17:58131740

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