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Submitted by Straight_Talk_Luigi (United States), Jun 25, 2008 at 21:30

I will be happy to!!! One of the classes I took for my degree in psychology dealt with the very issue. The U.S. beuru of Justice has some very interesting statics. It is estimated that 1 in 6 women will be raped or a victim of sexual assault within their lifetime. The most recent calculation for rape in this country was in 2006. It was estimated that 272,350 sexual assaults/rape occurred in this year only!! That is a rape every 2 minutes in this country!

The USA also has over 320 million people here, so the number will of course be larger.

Oh, and you forgot to mention: We don't punish the victim.

Interesting report on the crime from one the Maghreb nations.

Exactly what teachings are those? For you to make such a great assertion you need provide evidence. Islam does not teach rape what are you talking about?

Gladly! Here's one example from sharia law

It's really not a "great" assertion, but a common one in Sweden and Norway

The Christianity teaches rape and pedophilia? If you look at Christian history you will have MANY examples of both.

If I look at the history of ANY religion, I could find at least one example for each, I'm sure. Pedophilia, huh? So what's up with this Muslim from Yemen marrying an eight-year-old? Just keeping with Mohammedian tradition, I guess.

We need not go into that now, I am not trying to offend people.

Yeah, right. You're goal is to make me angry, remember? Good luck!

But if you think really hard I'm sure you will come up with something. Muslim religious leaders are not exactly in the news for this type of behavior.

Just because it's not on the news, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Since we are talking about reported rape, I think that you should know that 60% of rapes go unreported in this country (U.S. Department of Justice.2005 National Crime Victimization Study. 2005)!!! I wonder why considering women in this country does not have to worry being stoned to death?

Yeah, cause it's her fault, right? She doesn't have to worry about stoning because we are modern nation. I'm well aware that many rapes in the USA aren't reported. A lot of times, it's because the woman doesn't want the man to get into trouble, I would guess.

In Muslim lands, it wouldn't matter because 1) They punish the victim, not the rapist and 2) Many of the women who are raped are non-Muslim. That's why the EU has a rape epidemic from Muslims. They probably just do the same thing in their home country and it isn't reported as a crime because they don't think it's a crime! They think the women DESERVE it for not wearing the veil or for converting to Christianity.

Maybe there other psychological/social factors that cause women to not report, as we see here in this country

Yes, there are, but the reasons for NOT reporting in Muslim nations are even more understandable, unfortunately.

"In Iran, you'd be stoned for adultery and your male rapist would go free."

Stoning to death, another tired argument.

This is why Muslim nations should STOP IT, Nura! Until then, be prepared to hear ALL about it!

When was the last time a person was stoned in the Muslim world?

At least in 2005

When you get that number then figure out how often that had happened in the last century!

From what I can tell, just in Muslim lands. See here: Nigeria, Iraq, Iran. Changing the ISLAMIC penal code.

For your information, Stoning goes way back. The God of Abraham ordered it for various sins in the of testament such as hitting your parents, fornication, adultery, bestiality ect. All of these acts were punishable by death and more than a few were punished by stoning. Check Exodus for further proof.

I am very familiar with Exodus, and the reason why God was so strict was because the Israelities had no social infrastructure. Jesus removed this teaching and said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

As far as rapist going free in Pakistan, you should know the 15 out of 16 rapists go free in this country!! Again check statistics. Again, why is there such a strong comparison for these "underdeveloped nation"? We should be doing much better than them, right?

So, due the inept American justice system, Pakistani rapists should go free? That's your logic from your psychological degree? I sure wouldn't want to see you as a patient!

We are doing better, because we have safe areas and areas that are not so safe. Most developing countries have crime all over.

The statistics you refer to are an estimate documented in wikipedia based off of mathematical extrapolation, not on hard numbers. You're just rewording the idea that 1 in 16 rapists are supposedly convicted and sentenced, but you are a master of manipulating facts and stats to advance Islam.

So conservative are a stronger party? It was conservatives who supported slavery in this country.

I guess, but they were all democrats. It took republicans to free the slaves.

In terms of national defense, conservatives are the stronger party, and that's why you're defending democrats.

Conservatives supports the war in Iraq and the support of the Zionist state of Israel.

Liberal evangelicals support Israel and so do Jews. These folks vote DEMOCRAT.

Conservatives would love to bring back the old days where Christians were burning would be witches again.

Nura, no one wants to bring back the witch trials, least not any one I know. However, some Muslims, like the ones in CAIR, want sharia law here.

For your information I am a Muslim who supports neither. I support and believe in Islam that's it that's all.

Don't be offended if I say I'm not convinced.

As Muslims we should support whoever is right regardless of religious and political views.

As much as you'd like to speak for other Muslims, Nura, you don't. Quite frankly, I find that hard to beleive with what you've been saying. And to be honest, you sound like bin-laden when you do that. Heck, who knows? Maybe to you, that's a compliment.

Both sides are filled with Western extremists.

Unfortunately, Muslims have our extremists beat. 11,000+ terror attacks since 9-11 in the name of God. allah akkbar indeed.

Really, I think that the country was destroyed by the British the last time I checked. How do you think dictators get into power?

You're going to blame the UK, one of the oldest democracies in the world, for Iraq's problems? How long ago was that? You're telling me that Islam had nothing to do with it?


That is what the West does.

It's what sharia law does.

They destroy Nations and then put in Dictators that will serve their interest. The entire Islamic State was dismantled by the British and separated into the countries that we see today.

The Islamic State WAS an expansionist dictatorship. It's just the UK (and later the USA) literally ran ahead of EVERYONE in terms of power. They beat the Islamic Caliphate and countless other little brutal regimes at their own game.

That, Nura, has been the trend in global power ever since civilization was founded, and it will keep changing. You cannot complain about one expansionist (the UK) and justify another (the Caliphate).

You sound like a true ... Do you know many people have been killed in Iraq? Hundreds of thousands. We would assume that these people had families, mothers,sisters,brothers ect. How well could YOU go on after someone you loved was killed a violent death?

Good for you, except you're not an Iraqi, and they weren't free under Saddam. My roommate was an Iraqi, and he said the USA was doing good in Iraq.

Uh-oh. I guess I'm NOT the one who's angry after all :) Looks like you got an edit!

First of all, if you are referring to the Iraq debacle, hundreds of thousands have not died. Nearly 50,000 to 60,000 have died courtesy of Islamic terrorists.

I actually represented my UN agency at the initial Oil for Food Program hearing. Over 1 MILLION Iraqis died, most of them children, from the oil for food scandal

They would rather have clean water, peace and security which the masses of them had under Saddam. It is the quality of life that people want regardless of religion.

Is this what they told you at the mosque?

Tell that to the Marsh Arabs, the Kurds, and the Shiites and Basra. Those WMD's that "didn't" exist were used to kill hundreds of thousands of Kurds, a friend of mine at the UN showed me GIS maps the southern marshlands that were being drained and suffering insurmountable ecological damage due to Saddam draining them.

Why would he do that, being such a "great" leader and all?

To eliminate the Marsh Arab culture!

You are right though, that Christians DID get better treatment under Saddam, and he did keep the terrorists away. But Iraq secure and peaceful? Ha ha. Not on your life, Nura!

And then there is Uday and Kusay, who went around in their little van and raped women. How would you like it if the Bush Twins did that to you? Or do Uday and Kusay get a free pass because they are Sunni Muslim?

A good friend of mine died just last year, and I know of Americans who went to TEN funerals or more on 9-11, thanks to orthodox Islam. Make sure you include that in your precious da'wah, and no I'm not angry.

My children means more than this PERCEPTION of freedom. I'm sure they would rather have their families back, alive than a flawed government that has supported Shia militias.

I'm going to assume that you are Sunni. Supporting shia militias will get us nowhere. They are clearly linked to Iran, which wants control over the entire area. That's one BIG reason why so many people in Iraq are dying, yet most people don't have the wit to see it.

I have no doubt that the families would love to have their loved ones back.

So would the Kurds and the Marsh Arabs and the families of USA soldiers who only want to make life better for Iraqis.

"Slavery from Africa was started by Muslims, and remember, we weren't a country until 1776. Slavery was outlawed less than a 100 years later.
Really!! Do you think youre talking to an idiot? How can you make such a statement of blatant inaccuracy?

If I am, you'd be the first one on here.......so, no, I don't think you're an idiot, and I guess you're right, I made an error more or less along the lines of semantics.

At least I don't blog in stenographic shorthand...:P

My response:

Slavery in Africa existed WAY BEFORE ISLAM. In fact, didn't ancient Greece and Rome practice slavery? Most of the inhabitants of Rome were slaves.

Yet, just like Christians, Muslims couldn't resist it and still practice it today.

A LARGE PORTION of the Roman EMPIRE were slaves, yes, but they took slaves from everywhere and religion, race and culture had nothing to do with it. I would hypothesize that gender and physical strength did.

Despite this fact, the slavery that was practiced by this country is known to be one of the harshest and most brutal examples of slavery in History!!!

FYI: History isn't a proper noun :)

Any kind of slavery is harsh, although I question you're line of thinking to a degree because the slaves needed to be in good working condition in order to be useful. They were an investment, you know.

Still, that is inexcusable.

So, why do Muslim nations still practice slavery today then?

Because when Mohammed and his followers wrote the Qu'ran, it was too much of a burden to leave it out. Less people would have become Muslim if they knew they would lose their slaves.

Although Africans practiced "slavery", they were more like the indentured servants in England.

Pfffffftttt! You're got another thing coming if you think that indentured servitude meant fair labor!

I take it you're talking about the area of what is now modern day Benin. Having a slave as a confidant (spy) or a solider as opposed to JUST a crop-gatherer, means they are expendable bodies that do not have to be paid to serve. The British did this do American slaves during the Revolutionary War, so it wasn't just the Africans.

They were not abused and tortured like here in the U.S.

I beg to differ. Slaves have been abused in every society and slavery itself is an abuse. They were probably treated better in the USA than anywhere else because Americans mostly BOUGHT slaves! They didn't go around and round them up little cattle like the Romans, Greeks, Saudis, Persians and Europeans did! They BOUGHT them, so you know what that means?

An INVESTMENT! They were businessmen! Good businessmen don't beat their assests to death, especially when they pay for them!

That's the difference, but slavery is just an insult to one's humanity no matter what.

Slavery was usually the result of warring Kingdoms their form of POWs.

That's how it got started.

In Islam Slaves had rights!! They were not to be hit, the owners were to help them if there was too much work, there were encouraged to be freed by Mohammed, they were to have food and clothing as their masters.

Grossly different for the institution of slavery by Europeans which was unknown to these people.

Naturally, you'll do whatever you can do to discredit non-Muslim slavery while justifying Muslim slavery, which is why you quoted Mohammed earlier.

Slaves in every society at some point in time have been abused. Why? Because it's easy.

Your claim about the European slavery are shaped by more accurate records. Other empires lacked this, and that's why we rely on archaelogical evidence. So, if you're going to sit here and tell me that a slave was treated better by Persians or Muslims than by Europeans, it shows a clear bias and a lack of understanding of how historical data is gathered.

It is by sheer human nature that slaves would be abused. Laws or no laws, Islam is no exception, even today with it's role in African slavery and the sex trade.

Who cares if the country didn't become one until after the civil war! What does that prove?

Since the USA was never an Islamic country nor will ever be an Islamic country (or any religious country for that matter), I know that this fact alone shapes your view.

The country was one before the civil war and one after. There is nothing to prove. It's just a well-known fact.

Really? The last documented lynching in this country was in 1968!! T o add the killing of James Byrd in 1998 where he was dragged by a truck with a chain around his neck by three white men has been argued to be a modern day account of lynching.

Nice try, but that still doesn't make Islamic nations better than America. You're reports are 10 and 40 years old, respectively. It's always interesting how Muslims on here have to talk about incidents in the past to show the West how "bad" we all are and that makes violent actions on their part okay. Like it's some contest to see who has the better group of people based on how many we can kill, enslave or subjugate.

You want to talk about the oppression of Blacks? Look at the Sudan. Over 400,000 dead because of genocide by Muslims. Rape, robbery, all too common and done by Arabs. No whites, no Hispanics. All Arab Sudanese doing the looting, raping and killing, and all of them are Muslims.

Why you are checking amnesty International, why don't you check the reports of Israel's brutality against the Palestinians.

And while you're telling me about how Islam is freedom, be sure and look at reports as to why Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East and how the Israeli government actually pays for mosques to be built.

I really don't see Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the UAE, Qatar, Oman, Yemen, Bahrain, Libya or any other Islamic country funding buildings for other religions. Instead, they are too busy building mosques in Europe in a bid for an Islamic take-over there.

I am well aware of the injustices committed against Palestinians, and I don't need Amnesty to tell me about that. I know about the gross UN violations. I gave a speech at university 4 years ago on why America should stop giving aid to Israel for reasons OTHER than Palestine. I'm also aware that many in the Muslim world seem to like the Palestinian situation, because it gives them something else to complain about to the pandering leftist West.

See, even Muslims have something to lose from a free Palestinian state.

The state that is over-whelming supported by this so-called "Liberal nation" further proof that this country is not ran by liberals.

Congress is clearly liberal, so is the Supreme Court. That's 2/3 of the federal government, and Obama is leading in the polls.

Check the recent reports of U.S. torture and detainment of Muslims, including the reports of young boys who are being detained and interrogated. The U.N has called for the release of these kids. How can you contend that this country has moral authority in the world!!!

That's easy, I don't. If you don't want to be regarded as an idiot on here as you implied earlier, don't put words in my mouth, because I know I would never say that the USA has the moral high ground.

Neither does the UN, and you're talking to a former employee of that group.

Also, it's interesting how you define "kids." If kids means teenage boys, which in this case it does, then know, Nura, that we try teenage American citizen youth as adults in certain criminal cases.

Also, tell me why Muslim men run around raping women in Europe.

Funny, really. Tell me, which countries on the face of the earth that has not been colonized by Europeans in the last century? Really, who are the world's colonizers here?

North America, China, Russia, Australia, New Zealand, the list goes on...

The reality is that at some point, most nation-states had at least attempted colonization or expansion. Iran is doing this right now. Muslims were very good at this. Did you know that Algeria, Syria, Lebanon, and even Egypt were most Christian before Islamic imperialists came? Did you know that Saudi Arabia had three tribes of Jews before Mohammed killed them all?

The only reason why the Europeans get all the attention is because they were BETTER than everyone else at it and more successful.

So, I am sorry that they beat out China, India, Iran, and the Islamic Caliphate in terms of land and sea control, but it really was because of

1) Superior weaponry

2) Better skills and strategy in battle

3) Disease

4) High goals that motivated their armies

You know what the problem is here in America? Assumptions that are not supported by the facts of history or at the least Data.

Actually, America has the best education system on the planet, even with all the liberal hypocrisy. We are way ahead of anyone else, because (aside from the far left) we stick to the facts like you would not believe.

I was born in America as the rest of my family so I really don't have a choice to be here at this time. I came back because I have resolved to give dawah to my family until they all become Muslim. Within a year another one of my sisters converted to Islam. I am working on my mother and a few of my other siblings. See, I want to fee my family from the slavery of secularism. Islam is Freedom. I enjoy making people like you angry at my existence.

No, Nura, you DO have a choice. Where there is a will, there's a way.

Islam freedom? ha ha. Is that what all the mostly Muslim nations run on oppressive sharia law? Tell me, why do so many Muslims try and come to Europe if they are truly free? For the climate?

I'll believe Islam is freedom, when I see Christians openly preaching the Gospel on the streets of every major city from Casablanca to Jakarta and from Tirane to Dar Es Salaam without fear of persecution. I'll believe it when I see women dressed in bikinis going to the beach on the shores of the Persian Gulf. I'll believe it when I see King Fadh, Momar Ghaddiffi, and Majoud Ahmedinejad embrace the oppressed non-Muslims in their lands and use state funds to build Churches.

If you truly are against secularism, then do you vote democrat or republican? Because if you vote democrat, I really have to question you're determination and your real motives with da'wah.

You are free to say as you please, and I'm the last person to defend secularism, but I am free to convert Muslims and others by the droves to my Church. This is harder in Islamic lands, but I have to admit, the more oppressive they are, the more they lose.

On trying to get me angry: please don't waste your time doing this. You'll be the one writing insults long before me and having your comments edited like STS. Really, what is said on here doesn't affect my emotional status that much.

When I go outside I wear the Hijab, Jilbab, everything that is required of me and I laugh when people look at me and get upset.

Well, I've seen Muslim women with a lot less than that on......but I also see covered women because we have nuns at our Church. However, wearing the hijab isn't a requirement in Islam.

If you want to dress more modestly, that's fine with me.

You cannot change me, and people like you fume at that. That you have not control over my faith or the faith of people like me. It is a humbling that I am happy to be apart of.

Actually, I'm kind of chuckling as I write this. I'm no amateur either at blogging, and perhaps you should recognize when you do da'wah that others don't like to change either.

If anything, it's your Muslim brethren who get angry when people don't convert to Islam ie change, so many you ought to give that speech to them, or are your standards for them different because you agree on most things, if not everything?

Your attempt to make me angry failed. See, in my religion, enticing others to anger is a sin, and anger itself is a capital sin. I feel like this would be good for you, Nura: This weekend, find a Catholic Church and attend service. See if you like it.


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the hypocrites from west [50 words]syed mohammad aliJul 13, 2008 12:09132756
For Nura/1 [2249 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJul 14, 2008 16:08132756
For Nura/2 [2537 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJul 14, 2008 16:10132756
Following in True Faith Not Hypocrisy [72 words]M. ToveyJul 14, 2008 18:09132756
True Witness of Jesus Christ Comes From His Love-Anger Comes From Unbelief in Him [996 words]M. ToveyJul 17, 2008 14:01132756
Never ever attack Israel. [684 words]ParvezSep 26, 2008 00:33132756
Israel's Destiny According to Her Almighty God in His Holy Word is Already Promised - Including Suffering the Final Indignities [82 words]M. ToveySep 26, 2008 18:34132756
do you still believe in Zohar HaKadosh ? [43 words]sTsDec 16, 2008 02:18132756
Irans regime of the mollahs should be taken to justice and military action against their nuces and the revolutionary guards is the only solution [30 words]TIRDAD GHARIBJun 19, 2008 09:02132622
He should. [23 words]Don MeakerJun 18, 2008 21:52132550
Why is Pakistan being Ignored ? [220 words]Proud IndianJun 18, 2008 09:58132487
You are right [27 words]NowheremanJun 18, 2008 20:12132487
Understandable injustice of sorts [129 words]JayJun 18, 2008 00:01132451
An Obama Win and his intended foreign policy vis-a-vis Iran [18 words]sara sterzerJun 16, 2008 21:50132321
I aggree to Sara . [144 words]HUNDEPOPELJun 18, 2008 22:11132321
WMD is an EXCUSE. Once again [29 words]inevitableJun 15, 2008 20:17132232
inevitable, and his illusions [25 words]InfidelJun 16, 2008 20:42132232
WMD is an excuse? [238 words]PDMJun 17, 2008 21:10132232
Facts about oil that the move-on left doesn't want you to know about [57 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 23, 2008 16:40132232
WMD is an EXCUSE once again ( remember IRAQ?) [27 words]inevitableJun 25, 2008 10:46132232
To PDM -- on Iraqi oil [98 words]inevitableJun 25, 2008 11:07132232
To Straight talk luigi [70 words]inevitableJun 25, 2008 11:22132232
Old and inaccurate information [66 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 25, 2008 18:19132232
Inevitable, here is your chance [38 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 25, 2008 18:27132232
inevitable, fabricated knowledge [141 words]InfidelJun 26, 2008 13:59132232
inevitable, more fabrications [235 words]InfidelJun 26, 2008 14:16132232
Oil facts - whether you like it or not [82 words]PrideJun 27, 2008 11:53132232
At least he gave a source [60 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 28, 2008 17:14132232
Who cares if a few muslims learn how to fly airliners [21 words]PDMJun 15, 2008 16:50132225
Enlisting anyone? [76 words]jjcometJun 15, 2008 12:56132212
Another Liberal War Recruiter? [68 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 28, 2008 23:15132212
Sometimes felt uncomfortable. [256 words]Elmo [ ... http://anechoicroom.blogspot.com/ ]Jun 15, 2008 08:56132198
Barack Hussein Obama speaks as if there is not a threat from Iran. [95 words]YnnatchkahJun 15, 2008 03:35132173
Who is a threat to whom ? [109 words]sTsJun 18, 2008 12:34132173
good question [22 words]spaJun 19, 2008 04:44132173
Middle Eastern women continue to cry out for help [195 words]ClaireJun 19, 2008 05:38132173
Who is Threatening Whom? [534 words]M. ToveyJun 19, 2008 13:42132173
Women in Islam [420 words]sTsJun 21, 2008 10:09132173
Claire - more on the treatment of women that should be in Islam [316 words]sTsJun 21, 2008 12:15132173
You people are so Tired!! [393 words]NuraJun 21, 2008 13:36132173
American interests [147 words]sTsJun 22, 2008 02:50132173
Great Nura, [22 words]sTsJun 22, 2008 05:40132173
But Nura, you still stay in USA dont you??? [112 words]Proud IndianJun 23, 2008 04:44132173
Israel Remains and Will Remain the Principal People in the Promised Land [315 words]M. ToveyJun 23, 2008 11:11132173
Reponse to Nura [1013 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 23, 2008 16:04132173
Disproving STS once more [508 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 23, 2008 16:18132173
Give me a break! [85 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 23, 2008 16:24132173
More knowledge for STS [176 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 23, 2008 16:29132173
That's pretty funny [19 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 23, 2008 16:42132173
Nura [37 words]btillyJun 23, 2008 19:13132173
Do Not Be Too Tired Yet -There is So Much More to Come-So Much More to be Prepared for According to the Hebrew Holy Scriptures [573 words]M. ToveyJun 23, 2008 19:39132173
Really? [223 words]NuraJun 23, 2008 23:46132173
Unfortunately, irony is lost on Muslim mindset [19 words]DevasahayamJun 24, 2008 13:53132173
Get over it [142 words]sTsJun 25, 2008 01:37132173
no peace [46 words]sTsJun 25, 2008 03:55132173
How Muslim women feel [62 words]sTsJun 25, 2008 07:02132173
response to Straight_Talk_Luigi [1575 words]NuraJun 25, 2008 11:59132173
No Peace for the Wicked [150 words]M. ToveyJun 25, 2008 19:16132173
Nothing to Get Over Except Unbelief [26 words]M. ToveyJun 25, 2008 19:20132173
For Nura, countering your points [3839 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 25, 2008 21:30132173
She's staying, proud Indian [77 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 25, 2008 21:50132173
Koran and Hadith on women [164 words]ClaireJun 26, 2008 00:29132173
1sTs--you are out of touch! [185 words]ClaireJun 26, 2008 00:40132173
That's nice, STS, but [69 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 26, 2008 12:58132173
Jesus in the future [275 words]sTsJun 27, 2008 05:52132173
Here you are - Proofs from the Bible [559 words]sTsJun 27, 2008 06:59132173
Values..... [317 words]NuraJun 27, 2008 11:12132173
Peace [14 words]NuraJun 27, 2008 11:18132173
Come one,you can do better than that [885 words]NuraJun 27, 2008 12:03132173
Women in the West [362 words]nuraJun 27, 2008 12:36132173
Exact same problem faced by Canada [46 words]DevasahayamJun 27, 2008 13:02132173
Also, Luigi A few facts that Western media DO NOT reveal [204 words]DevasahayamJun 27, 2008 13:16132173
Nura-societies aren't that different [264 words]ClaireJun 27, 2008 17:18132173
1sTs-let Islam return the lands it conquered prior to that! [104 words]ClaireJun 27, 2008 17:56132173
Tovey--Can't you just tell us? [91 words]ClaireJun 27, 2008 18:02132173
Women in the West live as human beings [318 words]ClaireJun 27, 2008 18:39132173
For Nura: On American values and judgement [1396 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 27, 2008 19:13132173
Doing "better", huh? [1570 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 27, 2008 21:08132173
Unfortunately they are staying here back in India too! [254 words]Proud IndianJun 28, 2008 01:31132173
Now Nura speaks of Divine Justice & response?? Funny we feel the same way about the plights of Muslims in the War torn Countries! [141 words]Proud IndianJun 28, 2008 03:42132173
sTs - the major difference [151 words]KiwiJun 28, 2008 05:09132173
Displacement of the people [301 words]sTsJun 28, 2008 11:30132173
Reasoning is the way to improve understanding [146 words]sTsJun 28, 2008 11:45132173
Our dear Samer and are we talking about the same Nura? [110 words]dhimmi no moreJun 28, 2008 17:27132173
Re: More facts on conversions [388 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 28, 2008 17:29132173
Our dear Nura and much more delusions [261 words]dhimmi no moreJun 28, 2008 17:46132173
sTs/Samer- How can you be so duplicitous and keep a straight face??? [441 words]saraJun 28, 2008 20:23132173
response to Straight_Talk_Luigi/3 [1473 words]NuraJun 28, 2008 21:37132173
Kashmir and the Left [41 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 28, 2008 23:18132173
Nura's posts and STS, Blogging, Facebook Comparison [172 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 28, 2008 23:24132173
IF your house is made of glass, don't throw stones on others [412 words]sTsJun 29, 2008 02:12132173
Food for thought [305 words]sTsJun 29, 2008 03:02132173
Nura: I ask again, why are you here? [60 words]ClaireJun 29, 2008 04:18132173
Leave them think what they want [71 words]sTsJun 29, 2008 10:02132173
Response to Claire [774 words]NuraJun 29, 2008 12:01132173
Dhimie is back to his childish taunting [608 words]NuraJun 29, 2008 13:10132173
The Bible, Jesus, Mohammed, America, Catholics and Islam Nura [3122 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 29, 2008 23:10132173
1Vatican, Church, Islam, Bible, Nura, Catholic Mass Source [1397 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 29, 2008 23:20132173
sTs - we already know the truth [750 words]KiwiJun 30, 2008 03:30132173
More drivel from our dear Nura [867 words]dhimmi no moreJun 30, 2008 06:41132173
Our dear Samer and a little "pillow talk" [143 words]dhimmi no moreJun 30, 2008 06:49132173
Living in America [178 words]sTsJun 30, 2008 07:16132173
Dissertations of Dissentions are not Proof-Discerning Truth Requires Faith in Jesus Christ [107 words]M. ToveyJun 30, 2008 12:05132173
No One Can Be Compared to Jesus Christ Except Almighty God the Father and the Holy Spirit [66 words]M. ToveyJun 30, 2008 12:11132173
High school all over again! [517 words]NuraJun 30, 2008 13:38132173
All That Can Be Said is Wnat is Written in the Holy Bible-Believing in Jesus Christ Helps to Discern the Truth [603 words]M. ToveyJun 30, 2008 14:13132173
Christian Behavior [115 words]NuraJun 30, 2008 15:10132173
Castigation Knows No Limits-Neither Muslim, nor Christian. [310 words]M. ToveyJun 30, 2008 18:53132173
Patroit Act, Western nations [1093 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 30, 2008 21:52132173
you are not far from the truth [64 words]sTsJul 1, 2008 01:13132173
Show us the real meaning [97 words]sTsJul 1, 2008 01:17132173
Response to Straight_Talk_Luigi /5 Prayer does not equal arrogance [1556 words]NuraJul 1, 2008 01:40132173
The poor are loved by God more than the rich [115 words]sTsJul 1, 2008 01:47132173
Almighty God Loves All-Saves all who Will Believe in Him in Faith Through Jesus Christ [224 words]M. ToveyJul 1, 2008 18:08132173
Response to M.Tovey/2 [525 words]NuraJul 2, 2008 11:11132173
A More Complete Response to the 'Proofs from the Bible' - Look for the Truth in the Bible, Not for Excuses of Unbelief. [949 words]M. ToveyJul 2, 2008 11:42132173
Almighty God the Father Gave Authority to Jesus Christ in the Holy Bible to Intercede in the Affairs of Government-and of Men, Women and Children [461 words]M. ToveyJul 2, 2008 16:39132173
Ambiguous explanations [692 words]sTsJul 3, 2008 01:27132173
Wrong Behavior by False Christianity Never Condoned By Almighty God-A Fact Understood by Correctly Reading the Hebrew Holy Scriptures [324 words]M. ToveyJul 3, 2008 11:47132173
The Quran and God's love [28 words]sTsJul 4, 2008 01:29132173
Very confusing !!! [51 words]sTsJul 4, 2008 11:52132173
Samer and fantasy [200 words]dhimmi no moreJul 4, 2008 12:05132173
renounce trinity and accept Mohammad and you will enter heavens [282 words]sTsJul 5, 2008 06:25132173
Our dear Nura and the caliphate [336 words]dhimmi no moreJul 5, 2008 18:40132173
Holy Bible Explains It All to Those Who Believe [22 words]M. ToveyJul 5, 2008 18:49132173
Who in the Quran died to Save Sinners from Sin? [34 words]M. ToveyJul 5, 2008 18:54132173
Our dear Samer says that some of his best friends are Christians and Jews! [155 words]dhimmi no moreJul 6, 2008 08:18132173
No Confusion in the Truth of the Holy Bible and in Jesus Christ the LORD [179 words]M. ToveyJul 7, 2008 10:29132173
There is No Ambiguity in the Truth of the Holy Bible, Answers Without Belief Cannot Reveal the Truth. [683 words]M. ToveyJul 7, 2008 14:21132173
The Truth Cannot be Denied - Almighty God the Father, Yeshua HaMashiach the Son (Ben David) and the Holy Spirit are Declared Truth in the Holy Bible [581 words]M. ToveyJul 7, 2008 16:30132173
Well, at least you're honest, sTs [312 words]ClaireJul 8, 2008 03:33132173
Jesus and sinners [138 words]sTsJul 9, 2008 02:42132173
Jesus Christ Saves Sinners by His Sacrifice on the Cross-By His Authority Given From Above. [355 words]M. ToveyJul 9, 2008 16:53132173
1No bearer of burden shall bear the burden of another [429 words]sTsJul 10, 2008 02:05132173
1The Difference Between the Holy Bible and Others-The Holy Bible Tells the Truth About Jesus Christ [567 words]M. ToveyJul 10, 2008 17:13132173
Jesus is alive [66 words]sTsJul 11, 2008 01:28132173
Our dear Samer and which Trinity is that? [172 words]dhimmi no moreJul 12, 2008 08:58132173
Confusing Jesus Christ with the Prophet Mohammed-Jesus Christ's Human Death and Resurrection is the Reason He is Alive-Not the Prophet Mohammed [198 words]M. ToveyJul 14, 2008 10:47132173
Our dear Nura and more drivel and oh "small English" [441 words]dhimmi no moreJul 16, 2008 06:48132173
Get over what? [429 words]dhimmi no moreJul 18, 2008 07:31132173
sTs it seems like violence is the only thing that will satisfy you [37 words]ClaireAug 2, 2008 03:58132173
I see the depth of your hatred now, sTs [47 words]ClaireAug 2, 2008 04:03132173
Women's rights [132 words]ClaireAug 2, 2008 04:23132173
The West and Islamic women [457 words]ClaireAug 2, 2008 05:00132173
Sounds like it fits [23 words]ClaireAug 2, 2008 06:04132173
Muslem Women [501 words]sTsAug 3, 2008 12:25132173
Jesus Christ is Revealed in the Holy Bible - It Fits Because He is Real and He is LORD [396 words]M. ToveyAug 4, 2008 10:45132173
We'll be around [59 words]Melvin A. FechterOct 19, 2014 18:26132173
Burdens of another [69 words]GregAug 24, 2016 04:29132173
No bearer of sin can bear the sin of another [26 words]JudeSep 5, 2019 17:16132173
Not a minute longer [45 words]Ahmad RahmanJun 14, 2008 10:18132111
guard your faith [48 words]tahirJun 17, 2008 06:07132111
Tahir, beyond the PALE [47 words]InfidelJun 17, 2008 17:37132111
People are so happy in Iran: Source of cries for help? [76 words]ClaireJun 19, 2008 05:43132111
Who did Iran Attack?: [29 words]NuraJun 22, 2008 01:04132111
Nura, confusion [75 words]InfidelJun 22, 2008 20:33132111
Who Will Iran Attack? [65 words]Proud IndianJun 23, 2008 00:35132111
1978 [28 words]M. ToveyJun 23, 2008 12:17132111
Iran is already fighting USA and Israel --NURA & STS [200 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 23, 2008 16:36132111
I am not confused [149 words]NuraJun 23, 2008 23:31132111
secretly wish? [140 words]NuraJun 24, 2008 00:04132111
Yea let's nuke them for the love of Freedom! [238 words]NuraJun 24, 2008 00:30132111
where was the Americans? [75 words]sTsJun 24, 2008 02:53132111
Off by one year [31 words]DevasahayamJun 24, 2008 15:39132111
Plus, another record [61 words]DevasahayamJun 24, 2008 15:46132111
Lebanese Responsible for Iranian Attack on American Embassy in Iran? [15 words]M. ToveyJun 24, 2008 18:50132111
Nura,I made the statement [414 words]InfidelJun 24, 2008 23:03132111
Nura - Victim of Stockholm Syndrome [367 words]Proud IndianJun 25, 2008 05:10132111
Correction of 1979 Acknowledged-1978 Last Year Ayatollah Khomeini Had For Planning His Islamic Revolution [285 words]M. ToveyJun 25, 2008 14:40132111
Nura, get a grip on reality [428 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 25, 2008 21:47132111
The West can't police the entire world [226 words]ClaireJun 26, 2008 00:06132111
Not only Muslim women [77 words]DevasahayamJun 26, 2008 07:29132111
response to Straight_Talk_Luigi/2 [200 words]NuraJun 27, 2008 15:14132111
Stockholm Syndrome- Look it up! [821 words]NuraJun 27, 2008 15:55132111
Nura-hankering to get back to the Middle East [394 words]ClaireJun 27, 2008 18:52132111
Europe and Wars [627 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 27, 2008 20:25132111
No thank you [93 words]sTsJun 30, 2008 07:25132111
Mullah's angle [97 words]ClaireAug 2, 2008 04:17132111
"Infidel" countries [19 words]ClaireAug 2, 2008 05:49132111
US Must Destroy Iran Nuclear Establishments [236 words]kamekishJun 14, 2008 02:23132080
OFF AND IN TOPIC - IRELAND VOTE [35 words]HUNDEPOPELJun 13, 2008 19:25132045
Who cares if Iran gets a nuke [12 words]GovtFluJun 13, 2008 14:35132020
Well Said [179 words]NowheremanJun 18, 2008 14:07132020
MOP funding and deployment. [136 words]ErikJun 13, 2008 03:54131972
back to the basics: his name is Obama if born outside of the US, Dunham if natural born citizen ! [191 words]MikeJun 13, 2008 00:37131956
No more war! [63 words]RockmelonJun 12, 2008 23:26131944
How to end war in Iraq [1548 words]Melvin A. FechterJun 12, 2008 22:34131934
Yes Yes [47 words]Charles StewartJun 13, 2008 20:52131934
M. A. Fechter, interesting article, but [209 words]InfidelJun 14, 2008 20:44131934
Reply to Infidel's response to Melvin A. Fechter [415 words]Melvin A. FechterJun 16, 2008 16:25131934
Melvin A. Fechter, a respectful response [336 words]InfidelJun 16, 2008 21:56131934
Response to Infidel's Misreading of my remarks [675 words]Melvin A. FechterJun 17, 2008 17:42131934
Human values [138 words]sTsJun 18, 2008 05:40131934
Response to S.T.S. (from U.A.E.) [393 words]Melvin A. FechterJun 18, 2008 20:01131934
sTs, more murderers needed (6,19,08) (132476) [113 words]InfidelJun 19, 2008 22:38131934
Look who is talking [147 words]sTsJun 20, 2008 17:08131934
sTs, practicing "Taqiyya" [229 words]InfidelJun 21, 2008 01:44131934
Deeds not words show the true men [403 words]sTsJun 22, 2008 06:09131934
Response to "sTs" [854 words]Melvin A. FechterJun 23, 2008 14:04131934
Read sTs to hear the muslims point of view [91 words]sTsJun 24, 2008 03:19131934
Yawn, Infidel. [10 words]Melvin A. FechterOct 20, 2009 23:55131934
USA will not attack Iran [140 words]adam poorshedJun 12, 2008 20:12131929
This is the Beginning of The End..... [160 words]IranJun 12, 2008 19:09131922
Iran's Preparation is Found in the Hebrew Holy Scriptures [1090 words]M. ToveyJun 12, 2008 18:36131919
Appeasement is not an option [291 words]Gabrielle CroftsJun 13, 2008 01:46131919
Prepare to attack the enemy before it reaches critical mass to attack Israel and Israel's allies- or die an horrific death in a launch of finality evil. [640 words]Gabrielle CroftsJun 20, 2008 10:29131919
1Dr. Pipes is Right [66 words]AlexJun 12, 2008 16:06131909
The Mahdee factor [54 words]J. HellerJun 12, 2008 12:25131894
Iran will have nuclear ballistic missiles in less than a year [265 words]Ken BesigJun 12, 2008 10:42131879
Are you sure of your tense? [42 words]DevasahayamJun 16, 2008 09:17131879
Good job [15 words]RainerJun 12, 2008 02:16131847
Talking smack in the Middle East [134 words]GeoPolitiksJun 11, 2008 23:40131820
Saudi Arabia -Saudi Arabs not Iranians attacked US on Sept 11. [735 words]SinghaJun 11, 2008 22:38131814
Iran More Dangerous Than Saudi Arabia [201 words]orange yonasonJun 13, 2008 02:01131814
1Wahabi Fascist are the best allies of US- that is the reason [63 words]SimonJun 13, 2008 07:23131814
Major Confusion [113 words]SinghaJun 15, 2008 01:53131814
GIVE ME THE PROOF [149 words]mohammedJun 16, 2008 05:56131814
Re; Problem is not with Arabs - Problem is with islam [214 words]SinghaJun 16, 2008 23:18131814
Saudi Arabia [151 words]btilly`Jun 18, 2008 22:52131814
Excellent point, Singha! [112 words]DevasahayamJun 19, 2008 08:34131814
prepare to attack Iran [225 words]robert fusfeldJun 11, 2008 21:42131810
WHATEVER THEY SAY ABOUT BUSH, THE FACT IS: [15 words]IamJosephJun 12, 2008 03:12131810
Interesting [239 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 12, 2008 10:58131810
Don't sell Obama short [102 words]john w mcginleyJun 11, 2008 19:07131805
For democrats [62 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 11, 2008 23:34131805
Don't oversell McCain ( He is too afraid to talk to Michael Savage) Sir. [174 words]james burkeJun 12, 2008 06:54131805
Don't Be So Sure [78 words]TerryJun 12, 2008 11:46131805
Naivete? [38 words]orange yonasonJun 13, 2008 02:13131805
McCain and Obama [402 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiJun 13, 2008 17:02131805
1The Dhimmicrat clowns in the US Congress are more dangerous. [145 words]M.D'SouzaJun 11, 2008 16:09131793
Dhimmicrats' true colours shown by resolution timing [56 words]DevasahayamJun 12, 2008 07:25131793
Iran with nuclear weapons [125 words]Janusz KowalikJun 11, 2008 15:40131792
He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing [517 words]AdeimusJun 15, 2008 03:17131792
Reply: U.S. Must Prepare for War [106 words]shiny from floridaJun 11, 2008 14:21131789
Larijani, Iran and America will fail because of Robert Spencer to Barack Obama [680 words]Lame CherryJun 11, 2008 14:00131788
I disagree [366 words]Gabrielle CroftsJun 13, 2008 02:03131788
well... [129 words]mz ravin blackJun 11, 2008 12:55131781
The Approaching Storm [214 words]Rebecca MouldsJun 11, 2008 12:50131778
West have to accept a nuclear Iran [116 words]Asma BegumJun 12, 2008 04:01131778
Bush May Be Waiting Until After November? [160 words]orange yonasonJun 11, 2008 12:16131773
That could work--but with a cautionary [52 words]DevasahayamJun 12, 2008 14:37131773
russia-you're either in or your out! [68 words]gwwJun 11, 2008 10:36131762
war as an end means [395 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
richard d. paulJun 11, 2008 10:31131761
Agree [72 words]Lee BoylandJun 11, 2008 10:00131756
This account with Iran needs to be settled now! [223 words]Margaret HoodJun 11, 2008 09:41131752
NO CAMPAIGN RESPITE FOR IRAN [71 words]JOEL SPRAYREGENJun 11, 2008 09:41131749
gasoline [46 words]baneeshkhanJun 12, 2008 11:58131749
Entire post wrong [86 words]DevasahayamJun 13, 2008 15:35131749
Sorry, Daniel [115 words]Melvin A. FechterJun 11, 2008 09:17131743
Building up to a climax [15 words]Melvin A. FechterSep 1, 2012 20:46131743
lost in 2006 and 2008 [133 words]najadJun 11, 2008 08:35131740
Iran has future territorial ambitions? [23 words]TerryJun 12, 2008 11:51131740
Not Now [99 words]BlackspeareJun 12, 2008 18:42131740
What Iran wants [66 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiSep 1, 2008 00:17131740
Dream On, Khameini [44 words]Melvin A. FechterJul 16, 2012 14:15131740
What Iran will get and when [37 words]Melvin A. FechterApr 8, 2014 17:58131740

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