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about turkish imperialism
Reader comment on item: Erdoğan: "Turkey Is Not a Country Where Moderate Islam Prevails"
in response to reader comment: Read MICHAEL RUBIN

Submitted by G.Vishvas (Germany), Jun 10, 2008 at 07:57

To Sahane

When we tell you to read sources other than the ones published by turkish ethno-fascists then we don't think of it as something daring. It is the most normal thing to do.

Your appreciation of Kemal Pasha is fascistic - very much like the one nazis had for Hitler. It sounds very similar - "greatest leader of all times" etc.

Islam has helped turks justify their imperialism and ethno-fascsim. Turks profited from islamic fascism and imperialism and islam profited from turkish ethno- fascism and imperialism. Hence turks are not going to give up islam on the basis of reason or morality. Kemal hated islam but knew that he could use it for his own ethno-fascist and imperialist goals. He did not want to ruin that chance.

In Anatolia lived no turks earlier but only non-turks - greeks, armenians, assyrians, kurds etc. The non-muslim peoples in Anatolia have been de facto exterminated by the muslims over a period of 1000 years. A slow genocide can go unnoticed. The kurds are also endangered by the turks and the turks want to force the kurds to become turks.

You as a turkish person are not allowed to criticise all that. If you do then you will be jailed for insulting turkdom and tortured. So we don't expect honesty from you.


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Last window of the trilogy: the intelligent muslims [598 words]OpheliaApr 19, 2009 01:45
Non-muslim girls are a price catch! [353 words]B.N.GururajApr 20, 2009 07:02
Moderate muslims= powerless muslims [342 words]OpheliaApr 14, 2009 01:00
Moderate vs. Consevative Muslim--Islam in Europe [49 words]Straight_Talk_LuigiApr 16, 2009 21:08
About another kind of still powerless and "moderate muslims" [531 words]OpheliaApr 17, 2009 23:38
Disown Islam's violent past! [212 words]B.N.GururajApr 13, 2009 23:12
Disowning the violent past will help but true change will require the following [669 words]SunilApr 15, 2009 02:31
There is no moderate Islam. So there is a hope. [225 words]HopeWhenThreIsNoModerateIslamApr 12, 2009 21:33
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I want too [69 words]DolphinSep 10, 2008 10:04
In Response to the grandson of Ataturk`s bodyguard [183 words]Sahane MuftuogluSep 16, 2008 09:24
Ata is a national hero... [392 words]DolphinSep 16, 2008 20:08
Comments on the National Hero Ataturk [14 words]Sahane MuftuogluSep 18, 2008 12:34
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Erdogan accidentally spoke the truth [385 words]James McCluskeyDec 17, 2007 06:24
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Thank you Yannatchka, turnspeak [325 words]Petit MarteauDec 31, 2007 10:24
Answer to your question [168 words]Straigth_Talk_LuigiJun 6, 2008 01:51
interesting response [182 words]zis sumerJun 14, 2008 09:04
Moderate Islam? [212 words]Sahane S. MuftuogluOct 5, 2007 06:10
continuation of above [206 words]Sahane S. MuftuogluOct 5, 2007 19:27
In response to Mr.Muftuoglu [260 words]James McCluskeyDec 19, 2007 05:17
in response to Mr. McCluskey [87 words]SAHANE MUFTUOGLUDec 19, 2007 19:06
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Response to Mr.Muftuoglu:Talk is cheap. [296 words]James McCluskeyDec 22, 2007 03:56
SEX CONFUSION [40 words]Sahane MuftuogluDec 29, 2007 06:14
Apology for sex confusion---The Muslim Jesus [585 words]James McCluskey (Petit Marteau)Jan 1, 2008 09:07
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THE GREATEST LEADER OF ALL TIMES: MUSTAFA KEMAL ATATURK [149 words]Sahane S. MuftuogluJun 9, 2008 05:25
Read MICHAEL RUBIN [67 words]Sahane S. MuftuogluJun 9, 2008 05:47
⇒ about turkish imperialism [219 words]G.VishvasJun 10, 2008 07:57
The Greatest Leader Of All Times: MUSTAFA KEMAL ATATURK [432 words]Sahane MuftuogluJun 11, 2008 03:55
This is how indoctrinated persons speak and think [153 words]G.VishvasJun 12, 2008 06:17
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James pls [94 words]zisan sumerJun 14, 2008 08:51
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to the ignorant man- James McCluskey [57 words]Ersin DemirbasAug 22, 2008 06:47
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Verbal obfuscation [87 words]VijaySep 26, 2006 10:41

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