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Trusting the Eternal Sovereign Against the Philistines-Only the Dates Have Changed
Reader comment on item: That NIE Makes War against Iran More Likely
in response to reader comment: what do you think of Obadiah Shoher

Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Dec 17, 2007 at 13:49

There is obviously a great deal of opinion for and against Mr. Shohar's point of view on the posture Israel should take against all comers to the Israeli national question. The final question shall be the Israelis to answer, but we'll come back to that later.

In the brief overview this reader made of the postulations presented in Mr. Shohar, it is apparent that making an allusion to Sampson is to regard the strength of that historical person as he faced the Philistines (‘Palestinians') as the possibly the only means by which Israel may confront her enemies (which are legend in the Biblical sense). Maybe it is something missed in this reader's too-quick reading of the material, but adopting a Sampson approach to Israel's situation will only make sense when one acknowledges the true power behind Sampson's strength, devotion to the Eternal Sovereign that overshadowed him during those times.

Israel definitely faces those same type obstacles today that they did when the Philistines pressed their case against Israel. The terrorism used to oppress the Jewish of that time comes from the same type mentality of hatred for the Jews, albeit now it comes under the color of black headdress of the Islamic jihadists determined to overrun Israel and push her into the sea. Does Israel enjoy the same defiant attitude to expel such raiders today? One could barely think so when one views the willingness to exchange land for peace when Gaza was let go.

Will a terrorist mentality against the Islamic torrent of hatred gain Israel a more stable place in the Middle East, a tit for tat posture against any attacks? Not really so either, for today Israel does not merely face the Philistines (‘Palestinians'), but a whole world bent on diminishing Israel, if not completely eliminating her. Besides, there does not seem to be a modern day Sampson that is in a position to exact a judge's vengeance against Israel's enemies, only a defense force that seems to be hamstrung (pardon the non-kosher reference) by the reigning political influences.

Israel finds herself in a position that if she does not yield to the world pressure on the ‘Palestinian issue' and surrender Jewish lands to secure some semblance of a world-permitted national identity, then she will find herself against the entire world. Then we will see the truth behind the strength of Sampson, that only in trusting in her Anointed as designated by her Eternal Sovereign will Israel gain the fulfillment of her promise, the very thing Sampson could not see until his final day of being a judge. Then the world, just like the Philistines, will see whose god is Almighty God.

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Iran [21 words]Jon PurizhanskyFeb 27, 2009 07:36
What if NIE is a bluff? [167 words]Noach SternJul 16, 2008 20:45
I think NIE is a strategy shift by USA [108 words]someoneDec 22, 2007 00:56
enemies of iran are killing themselves in prejudice. [102 words]syed mohammad aliDec 19, 2007 05:59
Answer to Syed question [32 words]TimothyDec 21, 2007 10:43
Better a million times help Iran than Pakistan or Arabistan [216 words]HarraKDec 23, 2007 01:37
to ali in india [20 words]coldjointDec 25, 2007 13:00
dont you see iraq and afghanistan north korea japan vietnam etc [52 words]syed mohammad aliDec 29, 2007 02:56
why those countries should posess nukes who have record of invading war against other nations [31 words]syed mohammad aliDec 29, 2007 02:59
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what do you think of Obadiah Shoher [16 words]AlexDec 15, 2007 07:51
⇒ Trusting the Eternal Sovereign Against the Philistines-Only the Dates Have Changed [445 words]M. ToveyDec 17, 2007 13:49
Be afraid...be very afraid... [169 words]Kevin MorrowJun 14, 2008 09:59
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Why a US Strike is near [283 words]Eric KossianDec 14, 2007 14:53
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Right On [90 words]Dennis RobertsonDec 13, 2007 15:10
Another correct assessment by Dr. Pipes [794 words]kid berthaDec 13, 2007 13:52
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That NIE makes war against Iran more likely.. [361 words]kim segarDec 13, 2007 12:20
Nothing New Here [68 words]Seamus MacNemiDec 13, 2007 11:13
Option # 3 - Who will choose it? [99 words]Jonathan D. SafrenDec 13, 2007 11:12
Spot on analysis [77 words]Michael JoyceDec 13, 2007 10:36
Everything changes and nothing changes [341 words]Rebecca MouldsDec 13, 2007 10:02
Rebecca I thought the same exact thing! [356 words]kid berthaDec 15, 2007 10:42
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Tragedy for Israel [54 words]YnnatchkahDec 14, 2007 02:21
WELL DEFINED... [25 words]ik-1511Dec 14, 2007 18:18
I do agree sir! [18 words]ik-1511Dec 14, 2007 18:22
Thought that Obvious [46 words]YnnatchkahDec 15, 2007 21:10
Sir: [108 words]ik-1511Dec 15, 2007 21:30
Amazing Smells [97 words]JayDec 13, 2007 00:51
option 4 the secret negociations [158 words]HarraKDec 13, 2007 00:20
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That NIE Makes War against Iran More Likely [576 words]David MacKAYDec 12, 2007 21:08
NIE IS CORRECT, AND IT IS AN IMPEDIMENT TO RASH MILITARISM [238 words]GWKDec 12, 2007 20:49
no way [26 words]Reza ShiraziDec 12, 2007 20:17
What are you doing in the U.S? [56 words]kid berthaDec 14, 2007 10:19
Kosher? [178 words]BlackspeareDec 12, 2007 20:03
Exciting!!! [53 words]kid berthaDec 14, 2007 10:23
Reply to the "Kid" [57 words]BlackspeareDec 15, 2007 17:26
Quite the opposite...... [73 words]kid berthaDec 16, 2007 12:27
If Israel Cannot Trust in HaShem-Then Who? [109 words]M. ToveyDec 19, 2007 15:36
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Afraid you are right. [151 words]kid berthaDec 14, 2007 10:36
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What pressure [54 words]James BigaDec 12, 2007 18:34
US military [22 words]c blackDec 14, 2007 11:45

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