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For Fahad: bogus claims and translation of Quran 4:95 part deux!

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in response to reader comment: Henrik, get a better translation, please

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Oct 13, 2006 at 15:00

My dear Fahad rabina yu3alimak akthar wa akthar as you shall see it is either that your command of the Arabic language is poor or your command of the Arabic language is indeed poor. So which one is it?

So let us see what Q4:94 says: "the usual blah...blah...blah then we have the following words in question:

wa means: and

al-mujaahiduna means: the holy fighters. The root of the word is JHD and the stem is: mufaa3iluna.

Fi means; in

sabeel means: path/cause

Allah means: Allah

And then the usual blah....blah....blah end of aya.

So the above few words "wa al-mujaahiduna fi sabeel Allah" means: And those who fight (jihad or holy war) in the case/path of Allah."

And I challenge you to prove me wrong.

Now if we turn to Arabic speakers that translated the Quran as in the case of Dawood the word al-mujaahiduna is translated as: those who fight in the casue of Allah.

Now if we turn to Pickthall who was an Englishman who never lived (as far as I know) in an Arabic speaking country and was converted by tableghhes and whose translation is very tedentious translates the word al-mujaahiduna as: "strive in the cause of Allah" which is a very wrong translation.

The word "those who strive" means: al-mujtahidun (mufta3ilun) a very different stem from the root JHD.

So if the Quranic word would have been: al-mujtahiduna I would agree with you. But it is not so your claim is bogus and you need to learn Arabic ya ayuha al-faylasoof al-kabeer.

The translation provided by Henrik in this case is not a bad translation.

Now I will be waiting for your reply with great anticipation.

And like I said: Shame on you for being a follower of a religion that brutalized your ancestors.

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