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Delaying the inevitable: Allah really says that it is OK to own slaves and rape them! Despicable

Reader comment on item: Rebuttal from The Moorish Science Temple of America-1928
in response to reader comment: Get Your History Right

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Feb 22, 2014 at 10:28

Oh delaying the inevitable? What I hope is that young members of your temple are reading your replies and i hope they can make up your minds

First you attempt to come from Quranic point of view, I need you to read the whole verse(Ayat) Chapter (Surah) before you take what I say out of context.

Oh let me see your so called Allah says in Surat al-Nisa' 23 that these are the women that are prohibited to Muslim men as in you are not supposed to have sex with your Mama! How stupid can you get so here is the Arabic text with English translation


And in the next verse the so called Allah tells us in Q4:24 his infamous ma Malakat aymanukum


So now you have the whole verse so you have no excuse right Sheila?

So let us read it and then i will provide you with what al-Tabari says about it

وامحصنات من النساء الاماملكت ايمانكم كتب الله عليكم واحل لكم ماوراء ذلكم ان تبتغوا باموالكم محصنين غير مسفحين فما استمتعتم به منهن فاتوهن اجورهن فريضة

It is in black and white your so called Allah says that Muslim men can own slaves (is that right our dear Sheila to own slaves) and they can rape them too and it is fine and dandy with Allah the evil

Then the so celld Allah the so called al-Rahman al-Raheem tells Muslim men that if they like the sexual act resulting from raping a slave then they should pay the slave for sex! How generous he is promoting prostitution do you get it Sheila?

Do you see why I wrote that you are only delaying the inevitable and that is to expose your total ignorance of what the book of ignorance is saying

And here is what al-Tabari tells us about this disaster

وَمِلْك الْيَمِين : السَّبَايَا

Or and Melk al-Yameen al-Sabaya or what your right hand owns means SLAVES

Your Allah has no difficulty with slavery so is that right Sheila?

Then he write this vile sentence

مَا سَبَيْتُمْ مِنْ النِّسَاء , إِذَا سُبِيَتْ الْمَرْأَة وَلَهَا زَوْج فِي قَوْمهَا , فَلَا بَأْس أَنْ تَطَأهَا

Or women slaves if you own a slave woman even if she has a husband from her own people there is no problem to have sex (rape) her

Oh you do not believe me here is al-Tabari's exegesis of the entire verse


Now you tell me why do you not do your home work before you post you tell me?

Second How can you talk about anyone one not know another langue when I have yet to see any other source documentation. For example I have not seen you discuss Septugagint or Vulgate.

What does the Bible have to do with our little chat you tell me

I am very familiar with Hebrew, Arabic and the sister language to them both Aramaic.

Really? you know Arabic and Hebrew and Syriac? You could have fooled me

Snip nonsense

Tell us what the Arabic Word Islam means,

Here is what it means if you can read Arabic which I doubt very much

  1. أَسلَمَ: ( فعل )

    أسلمَ يُسلم ، إسلامًا ، فهو مُسلِم ، والمفعول مُسلَم - للمتعدِّي
    أَسلَمَ : انقادَ
    دخل في دين الإسلام وأصبح مسلمًا { فَإِنْ أَسْلَمُوا فَقَدِ اهْتَدَوْا }
    أَسلَمَ : دخل في السِّلْم
    أَسلَمَ عن الشيء : تركه بعد ما كان فيه
    أَسلَمَ في البيعَ : تعامل بالسَّلَم
    أسلم الشَّيءَ إليه : دفعه إليه ، وأعطاه له أسلِمْ هذه الرِّسالة إلى أخيك
    أَسْلَمَ أَمْرَهُ إلى اللَّهِ : خَضَعَ لِما أَرادَهُ اللَّهُ ، سَلَّمَ أَمْرَهُ إلى اللَّهِ ، فَوَّضَهُ ، اِنْقادَ { وَأُمِرْتُ أَنْ أُسْلِمَ لِرَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ }
    أَسلَمَ الخيطُ ونحوُه : انقطع فتناثر منه الخرزُ ونحوُه
    أَسلَمَ فلانًا : خَذَله وأَهملَهُ وتركه لعدوِّه وغيرِه
    أَسْلَمَ الرُّوحَ إِلى خالِقِها : سَلَّمَها ، لَفَظَ أَنْفاسَهُ الأَخِيرَةَ
    أسلم قيادَه إليه / أسلم قيادَه له : فوّضه ، وانقاد إليه وتبعه أسلم أمَره إلى الله ،
    أسلم له القياد : تَبِعَهُ { مَنْ أَسْلَمَ وَجْهَهُ لِلَّهِ وَهُوَ مُحْسِنٌ فَلَهُ أَجْرُهُ عِنْدَ رَبِّهِ }

  2. إسلام: ( إسم )

    مصدر أسلمَ
    الإِسلامُ : الخضوع لله على أي دين من الأَديان
    الإِسلامُ : الدينُ الذي بعث الله به محمدًا صَلَّى الله عليه وسلَّم { وَرَضِيتُ لَكُمُ الإِسْلاَمَ دِينًا }
    الشَّريعة الإسلاميَّة : التعاليم القرآنيّة ومصادر التشريع الأخرى كالسُّنَّة والإجماع ،
    دار الإسلام : بلاد المسلمين ،
    مذاهب الإسلام : الحنفيّ والشافعيّ والمالكيّ والحنبليّ

  3. إسلام: ( إسم )

    إسلام : مصدر أَسلَمَ

Oh check this


are Latin, Chinese, European and Moslems involved in this terror that you speak of.

The author of the book of ignorance was promoting terrorism

You are a nice lady Sheila but you are very misguided


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