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Submitted by surinder97 (United States), Jan 27, 2011 at 01:11

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1. Submitted by Rita Datta (India), Jan 26, 2011 at 00:26

What venom, Surinder97. Perhaps you were a victim of the Partition, I don't know. But before lashing out at Muslims, please reflect on the viciousness of the caste system in Hindu society that treated human beings worse than animals. What is more, the concept of rebirth LEGITIMISED the practice and ruled out revolt by blaming the low castes themselves for their status! And please don't say the caste system isn't sanctioned by Hinduism because a late hymn in the Rig Veda does exactly that.

I've just discovered New Age Islam and feel it is trying to do something extremely important. The kind of intolerance shown by the jihadists was actually thought ideal behaviour in Christianity, too, at one time. Remember, the punishment for heresy used to be burning at the stake. Many Protestants faced such an end in Catholic countries. Don't forget their intolerance towards the Jews. But then, the Jews also divided the world into two categories: Jews and Gentiles. Unfortunately, despite the atrocities they suffered at the hands of the Christians, especially in Germany, their treatment of Arabs in Israel is that of Nazis towards them. Just read the Jewish author, Susan Nathan's Other Side of Israel to verify what I'm saying.

cAs a Bengali Hindu who's mixed with Bengali Muslims closely I can't help but despair at Surinder's remarks. And, having been a teacher, I had the chance to interact with numerous Muslim girls who'll make a great difference to the community as mothers and professionals, I promise. As an Indian I feel proud of our plural cultural in which pre-Aryan tribal, Hindu, Jain, Buddhist, Islamic and Christian influences have mingled richly. That's what makes India unique. Islam is going through a great churning from which it will, I'm sure, emerge stronger. And that strength will increase the tolerance of the community, too.

2. COMMENT: This Moslem lady, using the Hindu name of Rita Datta, to throw her spitefulness against Kafir-Hindus, is practising Al Taqiyya, fully codified & approved in Islam. According to Quran, deception, also known as Al Taqiyya, is not only permitted, but sometimes obligatory on Moslems, in dealing with Kafirs.

3. Quote: What venom, Surinder97. Perhaps you were a victim of the Partition, I don't know.

COMMENT: If you label " telling Islam like it is, " as venom, you will surely be misnaming it.

4. Quote: But before lashing out at Muslims, please reflect on the viciousness of the caste system in Hindu society that treated human beings worse than animals. What is more, the concept of rebirth LEGITIMISED the practice and ruled out revolt by blaming the low castes themselves for their status! And please don't say the caste system isn't sanctioned by Hinduism because a late hymn in the Rig Veda does exactly that.

COMMENT: We Hindus are not perfect, and have never claimed ourselves or our religion to be perfect. We do not lie through our teeth like Moslems, who claim Islam to be a perfect religion, which certainly it is not.

Hindu religion is a reform-religion by definition, based as it is on the Vedas/Vidya or knowledge. My conversation with dozens & dozens of Hindus in India ( every one of whom stated that, caste system is not only obsolete, but obsolete-obsolete ), makes my optitmism more certain. Hinduism is advancing towards Integral-Hinduism ( totally casteless Hinduism0, albeit slowly, but surely.

Such is not the case with her Islam, which is stuck in mud, in the mud of barbaric Bedouin customs & rituals. The glaring difference is bery bery ( very very ) obvious.

5. Quote: I've just discovered New Age Islam and feel it is trying to do something extremely important. The kind of intolerance shown by the jihadists was actually thought ideal behaviour in Christianity, too, at one time. Remember, the punishment for heresy used to be burning at the stake. Many Protestants faced such an end in Catholic countries. Don't forget their intolerance towards the Jews. But then, the Jews also divided the world into two categories: Jews and Gentiles. Unfortunately, despite the atrocities they suffered at the hands of the Christians, especially in Germany, their treatment of Arabs in Israel is that of Nazis towards them. Just read the Jewish author, Susan Nathan's Other Side of Israel to verify what I'm saying.

COMMENT: Like Judaism & Christianity, Islam is also an Abrahamic religion, and shares many of their characteristics, but blaming Islam's problems on Judaism or Christianity's copy-cats, is a diversionary-tactic, for her to work up a fit of indignation at Kafir-Hindus, for criticizing her good-for-nothing Islam.

6. Quote: As a Bengali Hindu who's mixed with Bengali Muslims closely I can't help but despair at Surinder's remarks. And, having been a teacher, I had the chance to interact with numerous Muslim girls who'll make a great difference to the community as mothers and professionals, I promise.

COMMENT: My sympathies for the Moslem Women are enormous. I want to wipe the tears, from every eye of the Moslem women ( Rita Datta included ). Islam's treatment of its women is worse than disgraceful.

Let us face the reality head-on. Islam's world has been a male's world, in which a woman has no rights, and has the lowest position. Islam's mistreatment of its women, is based on revealed truths, on Quran & Allah's commands. They have heavely sanction, and are un-alterable. To seek to change them, is not only a crime against Islam, but a rebellion against Allah.

7. Numerous examples of Islam's aresenal of barbarism can be cited, from UK, USA, Pakistan, India, and other places.

Look at Malaysia, the so called advanced Isalmic country, as debated by some hyper delusional minds, the Hindus here received death threats and violent protest by the majority Muslim just to build a temple to one of their neighbourhood.

Shia / Shiite sect of Mohammaddenism is banned by law in Mohammadden majority Malaysia:

8. Likewise, Rita Datta's optimism about Islam & its picture-post barbarism, is delusional. It is not fact-based.

Surinder Paul Attri

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