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Submitted by Seamus MacNemi (United States), May 4, 2007 at 18:24

I take your thoughts with gratitude for the honesty expressed in your thinking. I do, however, disagree somewhat. I have lived in communities where Moslims and Jews get along quite well together and I know that in the past, especially in Spain and in Turkey there was quite a famous collaboration between Muslims and Jews.

The "Rambam", Moses Ben Maimon or Maimonides as He is sometimes called, was the physician to the Sultan of Cairo, and when my ancestors were driven out of Spain by Queen Isabella and her inquisition along with the Jews and Moslims, The Turkish Sultan invited many, not only Jews, to live in his lands. He recognised the advantage that people like us who were industrious and far sighted would be to him in his reign.

So, we were given, more or less, a free hand to pursue our own interests without fear of outside interference. The only thing we could not do was to aspire to the position of the Sultan. Of course, this all meant little of nothing to us as we were free to be who we were and we didn't have the authorities always breathing down our necks and spies running about the place looking for any excuse to betray us. It might suprise you to know that many of my folk rose to some quite prominent positions in the Muslim world even though we were not Muslims. We were who we were and no anount of fancy ritual gibberish or majic words and spells would ever change any of that. So He didn't even try to convert us. That was the real fear of the church and one major reason for the crusades. We were beyond the pale of the church in every way and they could not touch our thinking. So they sought to eliminate us and the Jews along with us.

In our history, my folk have born many of the same libel accusations as the Jews, and I am often given to wonder who they would hate and fear more, Me or the Jew who stands next to me. Given a true choice of targets I think I would be the prefered choice simply for the fact that in matters of aquisition and money as well as political power, my own ambitions would far outstrip any the Jew might have. After all, my folk wrote much of the book that the Jew reads when it comes to wealth and power. As well, we tought him how to fight and we put the gun in his hands so he could fight. So if anybody has a beef, now you know where to bring it.

Leave the Jew alone to live his life as he sees fit and all will be well with you. Think to do otherwise and you will have us to deal with. That, I can assure you, will not be a pleasant experience for you.


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request for reference [37 words]Ichil LEIBNov 20, 2007 16:13
Short term appeasement, long term catastrophe [126 words]T. Rajah-BalajiSep 20, 2007 02:06
Where the Nazi " Big Lie " endures [155 words]Jaisingh ThakurJul 19, 2007 09:49
the first victim of war is ...the truth [151 words]Phil GreendJun 19, 2007 23:53
Britain's propaganda in the First World War [127 words]Daniel Nussbaum II, M.D., FAAPMay 28, 2007 17:29
the biggest amount of documents about nazism and islam on the web [41 words]aval31May 14, 2007 03:47
Compliment to AVA 131 [31 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 17, 2007 23:59
a lonely little french resistant on the web. [153 words]aval31May 21, 2007 05:11
Reply to AVA 131 [117 words]SeamusMacNemiMay 22, 2007 08:47
Nice link [2 words]orange yonasonMay 27, 2007 23:59
LIES HAVE UNFORTUNATELY ENDURED [169 words]V. RAJAGOPALANMay 7, 2007 08:00
The big picture problem [281 words]moderate MuslimMay 6, 2007 21:41
Moderate Muslim, stop lying! [299 words]MosheMay 8, 2007 09:47
Reply to Moshe [11 words]Seamus MacemiMay 9, 2007 01:57
More fantasy from our dear M&M [227 words]dhimmi no moreMay 9, 2007 07:50
Seamus, what's wrong with English? [18 words]MosheMay 10, 2007 07:13
Comment on Moshe's response to "moderate" Muslim [24 words]orange yonasonMay 28, 2007 00:23
Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin Al Husseini and Nazism [193 words]Pete FarmerMay 6, 2007 00:51
Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin Al Husseini and Nazism [112 words]IanusMay 6, 2007 18:15
Reply to Ianus: On Al Husseini [675 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 7, 2007 21:33
On Al Husseini [1865 words]IanusMay 10, 2007 16:12
Reply to Ianus: I think we've finally made it [186 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 10, 2007 20:47
Where the Nazi "Big Lie"Endures [99 words]S.C.PandaMay 4, 2007 03:35
wrong calculus [66 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDMay 8, 2007 16:10
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HarrakMay 3, 2007 22:16
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AntiSemitism and AntiZionism [120 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 6, 2007 21:28
Asking For Daniel Pipes Opinion
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New Europe is anti-everybody [23 words]Paolo FernandiMay 9, 2007 09:42
Anti-zionism and anti-semitism [157 words]EuropeanChristianMay 9, 2007 19:53
Reply to European Muslim [127 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 10, 2007 22:55
Anti-Zionism is a "PC" code for anti-Semitism, while "anti-Semitism" itself is a misnomer. [176 words]MosheMay 12, 2007 17:32
to Dr Pipes - where uptoface PhD comes from - Quebec [57 words]James BurkeMay 19, 2007 02:08
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"co-evolution of prejudice" [168 words]SheerahkahnMay 3, 2007 15:58
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Alexander Gutman, [15 words]Joe Schmoe USAMay 6, 2007 19:52
Well now, Alex, [15 words]donvanMay 7, 2007 09:20
where will it all end [43 words]terryMay 3, 2007 15:17
The consequence of Jihad. [115 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 3, 2007 23:18
Reply to Terry, The destructive power of Hatred [789 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 5, 2007 22:50
your translation is wrong
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martien penningsMay 3, 2007 14:36
Islamic Al Taquiya is Much Older than Nazism- Muslims will Teach a Lesson are Two to Nazis [87 words]SinghaMay 3, 2007 11:16
Islam As A Souce Of Antisemitism [240 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 5, 2007 23:31
what! Chrsitiano-facist... [105 words]HarrakMay 6, 2007 00:16
On The Nazi Roots Of Modern Radical Islam [439 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 2, 2007 16:24
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"On The Nazi Roots Of Modern Radical Islam" ...A most improbable theory [469 words]IanusMay 3, 2007 17:11
⇒ Reply to Ianus [489 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 4, 2007 18:24
Reaply to Seamus MacNemi's reply [1079 words]IanusMay 6, 2007 05:36
to Seamus [120 words]BillMay 6, 2007 12:18
Seamus MacNemi: I have a question for you [29 words]dhimmi no moreMay 6, 2007 17:20
Reply to Ianus [693 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 6, 2007 23:05
Reply to Dhimmi no more [83 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 6, 2007 23:14
Another reply [1415 words]IanusMay 7, 2007 18:36
Our dear Seamus you did not answer my question! [21 words]dhimmi no moreMay 7, 2007 18:38
Reply to Bill : G-D is ONE [216 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 7, 2007 22:11
Our dear Seamus and his big time bogus falsafa [94 words]dhimmi no moreMay 8, 2007 19:19
re : Reply to Bill : GOD is ONE [233 words]BillMay 8, 2007 20:18
Reply to Dhimmi No More [217 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 8, 2007 23:32
Reply to Inspector Ianus [145 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 8, 2007 23:53
Seamus, are you Jewish? [193 words]MosheMay 9, 2007 03:08
Reply to Dhimmi no more [131 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 9, 2007 18:08
Reply to Bill? [149 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 9, 2007 18:28
But you still did not answer my question [19 words]dihmmi no moreMay 9, 2007 19:04
Sorry for my mistake ! [213 words]IanusMay 10, 2007 16:20
The bogus tawheed again [22 words]dhimmi no moreMay 10, 2007 17:45
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TO SEAMUS [119 words]BillMay 10, 2007 20:55
Reply to Dhimmi no more [105 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 10, 2007 21:01
"Close but no cigar"? really? And another cliche from our dear Seamus [112 words]dhimmi no moreMay 11, 2007 18:20
Reply to Dhimmi no more [366 words]Seamus MacNemiMay 11, 2007 22:42
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What makes the "Big Lie" endure [184 words]Dr RJPMay 2, 2007 14:07
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The same happened in Egypt 1400 years ago and is still happening [303 words]Egyptian ChristianMay 14, 2007 20:17
Amalek lives in Saudi Arabia [512 words]Yehuda Ben-Asher, MD Efrat, Gush EtzionMay 2, 2007 13:53
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inaccurate translation "Juden sehen dich an"
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