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Arvind,true..But !

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Submitted by Another one (Egypt), Feb 28, 2006 at 10:53

First of all let me salute you for your large research "though the basic idea of it was to prove the hostility,deep hatred towards the non-muslims with quranic evidences" but surely it took quite an effort to collect it's data..that i respect.

Actually all the information you wrote in here from prophet sayings to quranic verses ,are quite true. I wont argue with that..

But i'll say,Quraan is like no other book you've ever read and needs "like a sensitive chemical substance" an extreme caution before jumping into harsh conclusions,decisions based on certain verses without knowing the meaning of it,and what was the occasion of it's sending.

Now in case you weren't familiar with that information "Quraan" wasn't sent on one night. Prophet Muhammad kept on receiving Quran for 25 years starting from the birth of his Prophethood till the day he died at year 622 AD. the quran was transmitted to the prophet by the Archangel Gabriel as a reply or comment in many various occasions.

If i sit here in order to explain the meaning of each "verse" you wrote, by translating it from Arabic to English it would take me not less than a week,and dozens of articles " and you probably wont bother to read them either!" plus time is not a luxury i have these days..so i'll be brief and get to the point..

there are couple of issues from those you mentioned in here that grabbed my attention such as..

Terror
3:151
We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the
unjust."

suret "Aali Imran"the occasion was :during the battle of "Uhod"when the muslims were less numbers than the "infidles" of Quryish" i'll comment on that right after this!" Allah sent that verse in order to spread the peace and confidance in muslims hearts..that you are fighting for a true cause and that fear that lies inside you from being out numbered, will be reflected on them.

Qureshites were more numerous and with a bigger reserve and more logistics. Yet, they suddenly found themselves losing seventy of their warriors and leaders, along with seventy captives, in a one-day battle. And above all, the resounding defeat which they received was at the hand of a group whom they used to belittle.

Unbelievers

2:191, And slay them wherever you catch them
Allah meant by the Unbelievers" The true "infidels" of Qurish "

those who seek idolatry.
After the years of prophet Abraham and the others that followed Ishmeal,Isacc,Jacob,moses and and Jesus,some people remained on their christianty and judaism,others were totally lost those with their weak faith and kept on mourning the memory of the long gone prophets.Then came some good religious people "like missionaries" and started to guide them to the way of rightness. But after those people's departure, instead of following the same path they did,they kept on mourning them and whining for their lost ! some others started to figure some really strange ideas like "if their presence is the only cause for peoples' salvation,we will build them statues to make sure that they are among us somehow and we are being watched by them thus for no body would dare to commit any sin" and so the story went on till a new generation came with total ignorance about the former prophets and those missionaries. Finding their forefathers giving so much respect and divinity to those statues,so they worshipped it as they were the only link they knew between them and those former prophets. these people were the "Qureshites"..

in oreder to set things right and give those people a chance to redeem them selves prophet " Muhammad" was sent among them by Allah to guide them to the path that other prophets took before him..

It is He Who has sent down the Book (the Qur'an) to you (Muhammad ) with truth, confirming what came before it. And he sent down the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel). Aali Imran 3:3)

instead of believing him, they called him a crazy sorcerer.,then they started to hurt him, torturing and killing his followeres,rape the women and the young children from those who converted to islam..That's when Allah asked the muslim to start their war against those "Unbelievers " in order to defend the muslims and the holy book of quran.

Jihad (holy fighting in Allâh's Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allâh knows but you do not know. (Al-Baqarah 2:216)

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about the the non muslim issue

"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people. They [the unbelievers] will spare no pains to corrupt you. They desire nothing but your ruin. Their hatred is evident from what they utter with their mouths, but greater is the hatred which their breasts conceal." The Imrans 3:118

the occasion of the that surah is
When the Prophet "Muhammad" migrated to Madinah, he was keen on establishing friendly relations between the Muslims and non-Muslim tribes of Arabia. He established a sort of treaty aiming at ruling out all pre-Islamic rancour and inter-tribal feuds. The following are the clauses of the treaty:

1.The Jews are one community with the believers. The Jews will profess their religion, and the Muslims theirs.
2.The Jews shall be responsible for their expenditure, and the Muslims for theirs.
3.If attacked by a third party, each shall come to the assistance of the other.
4.Each party shall hold counsel with the other. Mutual relation shall be founded on righteousness; sin is totally excluded.
5.Neither shall commit sins to the prejudice of the other.
6.The wronged party shall be aided.
7.The Jews shall contribute to the cost of war so long as they are fighting alongside the believers.
8.Madinah shall remain sacred and inviolable for all that join this treaty.
9.Should any disagreement arise between the signatories to this treaty, then Allaah, the All-High and His Messenger shall settle the dispute.
10.The signatories to this treaty shall boycott Quraish (The people of Makkah) commerciallythey shall also abstain from extending any support to them.

every thing went nice and good till the Jews broke that treaty..

The Jews instigated these hostilities. People from the Banu'n-Nadir and the Banu Wa'il went to the Quraysh in Makkah, calling on them to fight prophet "Muhammad" The Quraysh who had already experienced war with the Prophet were reluctant to get involved again. However, the Jewish delegation painted such a rosy picture of the outcome that they agreed to co-operate.
'We will support you,' the Jews promised, 'until you obliterate him.' That delighted the Quraysh. They were eager to carry out the Jews' ideas. They gathered their forces and prepared for battle. The Jewish delegation then went to the Ghatafan tribes and
invited them to join the Quraysh. After the Ghatafan agreed to join in, they went to other tribes, presenting them with the same plan backed by the Quraysh. Thus an alliance was formed between the Quraysh, the Jews, and the Ghatafan against the Muslims.

Certain conditions were drawn up. The Quraysh had to gather four thousand fighters and the hatafan six thousand, making ten thousand in all. This vast army was to be commanded by Abu Sufyan ibn Harb. The Jews agreed to give one year's harvest of Khaybar to the Ghatafan to compensate them for their military expenses.
- "It's also important to mention that some of the Jews kept that treaty such as the Jews of The Jews of Bani ‘Awf"

About christians :

And thou wilt find the nearest of them in affection to those who believe (to be) those who say:
Lo! We are Christians. That is because there are among them priests and monks, and because
they are not proud. When they listen to that which hath been revealed unto the messenger, thou seest their eyes overflow with tears because of their recognition of the Truth. They say: Our Lord, we believe. Inscribe us as among the witnesses [Qur'an 5:82-83]

Quraan described the "quryshits" as infidels and unbelievers..as much as the Jews and the
christians were described as "people of the book"..

and if you think that Islam didn't respect or even showed tolerance towards them then tell me how our prophet "Muhammad"got married to the lady "Maria" who was an Egyptian coptic orthodox and died on her christianty after giving birth to his beloved child Ibrahim "Abraham".."he could have forced her to convert,don't you think ?"

each verse you have mentioned in here has an "explanation" and another title goes under the name of "the occasion of sending"

if i'm to mention them the meaning will be totally different from the one you are pointing at..

One more thing, why is it always Islam under the spot light and the never ending questioning about its principles and traditions !
I think it's about time to put our religious disagreements a side "because we will never agree about it ! " and start another discussion about political affairs that occur our daily life or the clash between the two cultures of the East and West for instance !
Submitting....

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