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Reader comment on item: [The Abu Ali Case and] Balancing Liberties, Security

Submitted by Dan Katcher (United States), Mar 3, 2005 at 12:46

It is inevitable that someone will cry foul when any balance tips one way or the other. The larger issue is an existential one for the US. I do not perceive that rights are absolute and inviolate when they lead to societal/national suicide. While sexually frustrated militant male muslims may look forward to destroying themselves, I do not believe this country does the same. While a good faith effort should be made not to incarcerate or otherwise violate the liberties of the innocents, I believe that at the present time, I would err or the side of national survival! That means some toes may get stepped on, including mine(& I'll be the first to scream) but the issue is larger than me, it is about this nation's security and longevity.

In the past, a guy with a bow and arrow or even a handgun could do limited damage; the possibility of significant mayhem and danger is not at a level that we need to be cautious all the time, not just once in a while. For those with a short memory, think what 19 crazies did on 9/11/01.

If Mr. Abu Ali is indeed innocent, which I highly doubt, then his ordeal is unfortunate; if he is guilty, then woe to us if he is released to continue his plotting w his colleagues. And finally, the the other big issue is the "religion" of islam. While it may make this country uncomfortable to directly address this, perhaps it is time to understand that fundamentalist islam is no longer what we recognize as a religion but a totalitarian ideology wrapped in a protective religious cloak of.

As always, unless one can correctly label a problem, one cannot devise a solution to the problem.

Greatly appreciate Dr. Pipes' work.

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wrong [125 words]The TruthMar 7, 2008 14:25
re: Kazi's comments [655 words]MaxxOct 31, 2005 20:54
In reply to Octavio Johanson [238 words]Peter J. HerzMar 23, 2005 05:39
Support of terrorists [89 words]DonvanMar 17, 2005 16:59
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The State's reason for existing [78 words]DogzillaMar 9, 2005 20:02
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that is wrong [67 words]A Muslim GirlOct 18, 2007 22:07
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More info on ISA [335 words]Ada EvansMar 4, 2005 19:46
Liberals and Conservatives both to blame [271 words]Mark GarretsonMar 4, 2005 15:35
Definition of treason? [50 words]Patricia KelcherMar 4, 2005 12:15
Inshallah [686 words]Dr. Jamshid IbrahimMar 4, 2005 06:55
Hatred taught to Muslim youth [93 words]A. WoodsMar 3, 2005 17:50
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Al Qaeda coached to claim torture... [167 words]L. D. WeinerMar 3, 2005 14:55
Defeating terrorism [551 words]Derek BernardMar 3, 2005 13:22
⇒ Balance [296 words]Dan KatcherMar 3, 2005 12:46
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Libs. & Cons. PROFOUNDLY DERANGED [119 words]ChayajaneMar 2, 2005 22:21
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Relax [301 words]Werner de RocqerMar 2, 2005 19:34
Let the courts decide [89 words]David J. BastyrMar 2, 2005 17:19
I choose SECURITY [140 words]Tony FigueroaMar 2, 2005 15:21
Mistakes [43 words]Robert PattersonMar 2, 2005 14:32
Deportation [151 words]Octavio JohansonMar 2, 2005 14:20
WHY! [231 words]Paul RinderleMar 2, 2005 14:14
Your correct appraisal of 'Liberalism'.. [80 words]NitsuardMar 2, 2005 14:12
We share your fears. [125 words]K. A. KhanMar 2, 2005 12:32
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Exactly right Mr. Pipes [123 words]Paul RhoadsMar 1, 2005 17:59
Frightening! [36 words]Nathan RothMar 1, 2005 17:41
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