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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Jul 29, 2011 at 16:22

A. Chaver wrote :

"But the few irrational reactions which you refer to in your article maybe the slow start of of reaction to the thousands of Irrational actions perpetrated in the name and mainfesto of Islam - the western powers are impotent in stopping those attacks within the confines of rational/contitutional behavior--"

I fully agree with this observation. It is not insanity but rather tragic awareness of those " thousands of irrational actions perpetrated in the name and mainfesto of Islam" that are responsible for seemingly irrational actions of men like Breivik and those who will hopefully come after him to liberate us from that criminal nightmare called Islam and its local propagators.

In the heated atmosphere of wild distortions of the PC brigade now let loose to accomplish their favourite mission of witch-hunt and exposing the heretics, I find it preferable to quote Breivik's own words to understand what his thoughts and concerns. They are the best refutation to dubious interpretations like "derangement", "insanity", "freakishness" etc. He writes on Scandinavia's plight due to Moslem colonisation (p.412-413) :

" Muslim immigration has led to a spike in organised and violent crime.... As early as 2002, Lars Hedegaard together with Dr. Daniel Pipes wrote about how Third-world immigrants - most of them Muslims from countries such as Turkey, Somalia, Pakistan,Lebanon and Iraq - constituted less than 5 percent of the population but consumed upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending. What's worse, however, is that Muslims were only 4 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people but made up a majority of the country's convicted rapists, an especially combustible issue given that practically all the female victims were non-Muslim. Similar, if lesser, disproportions were found in other crimes. In 2005, it was reported that 82 percent of crimes in Copenhagen were committed by immigrants or descendants of immigrants, and the police pressed charges against second-generation immigrants five times as frequently per capita as against ethnic Danes. Doormen working in the Danish capital are now often armed with guns or clubs so as to be able to defend themselves against violent immigrant gangs. There is more violence than ever before and some immigrant gangs have even been known to seek out doormen at their private homes. Immigrant criminal gangs are much more active than previously believed, and their brutality has them surpassing biker crime gangs like the Hell's Angels or Bandidos, the State Police said.

A Norwegian researcher warned that ethnic gangs could give Norway the kind of immigrant-related organised crime that had previously been unknown in Scandinavia. Arne Johannessen from the Norwegian Police Organisation warned in 2003 that the cost of crime may have been doubled during the previous decade, in part due to immigration. In Sweden there has been a steep rise in all kinds of crime and violence at the same

time as an unprecedented amount of immigration to the country. Of course, Swedish

politicians would never dream of connecting the two. However, in one of those rare cases

where a Swedish newspaper has actually told the truth, Aftonbladet revealed that 9 out

of the 10 most criminal ethnic groups in Sweden were Muslims, a trend known from

other European countries such as France, where Muslims make up 10% of the general

population, but maybe 70% of the prison population...

American expatriate writer Bruce Bawer, living in Norway, has documented in his book 'While Europe Slept' how Oslo imams preach brazenly that Muslims should expect ... welfare

benefits—and feel justified in supplementing them by stealing from stores—as a form jizya extracted from their infidel "host" societies.... some of the Muslims are actively involved in supporting Jihad activities, verbally or physically. Mullah Krekar is convicted of terrorism in Jordan, he has been suspected of links to the Madrid terrorists, and the CIA claims he has been ordering bombings in Iraq. He has lived off Norwegian welfare money in Oslo for years, and reputedly gets a lot of free taxi rides from Muslim cab drivers who think he's a great guy. Norway's most controversial refugee has lodged a threat against the country that has hosted him and his family for the past 14 years. Mullah Krekar continues to fight deportation back to Iraq, and calls any such order "an offense" that should be punished. "I defend my rights in their court just like Western people defend their rights. I am patient like they are patient. But if my patience runs out, I will react like Orientals do." Asked how "Orientals" react, Krekar said: "I don't want to comment on that." Krekar has

also spoken positively about terrorist leader Osama bin Laden and the recently killed

Iraqi al-Qaida leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi."

If these thoughts and concerns are a sign of "derangement", then definitely those who are not affected by them should be sent to one of the places described in the passage…of course without any police escort .


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11RADICAL ISLAM NOT THE PROBLEM. [124 words]IamJosephJul 27, 2011 07:23187727
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