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Reader comment on item: [Breivik and] Norway's Terrorism in Context
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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Jul 28, 2011 at 07:35

Dear Jonathan Usher , you wrote

"Norway is probably the most pro-Palestinian country in Europe. As such they directly or indirectly supported terrorism and rationalized that terrorism was ok in certain circumstances. Obviously Breivik agreed. The difference is that Breivik's ideas and Norway's ideas of when terrorism was necessary differed."

You make a point which , alas, has nothing to do with reality. Anders Breivik is an ardent supporter and friend of Israel and no less ardent enemy of the so called "Palestinians" and his own quisling government. Let me quote from his compendium, which Dr. Pipes seems to have eloquently discouraged us to read, to see what I mean

"If one acknowledges that Islam has always oppressed the Jews, one accepts that Israel was a necessary refuge for the Jews fleeing not only the European but also the Islamic

variety of anti-Judaism. Let us not forget that decolonisation was followed

immediately by renewed discrimination of and attacks on the Jewish and Christian

minorities, and that those Jews who could get out have promptly fled to Israel (or

France, in the case of Algeria)" (p. 48-49)

"Since the break-up of the Islamic Empire following World War I, various jihads have been

fought around the globe by the independent Muslim nations and sub-state jihadist

groups. The most sustained effort has been directed against Israel, which has committed

the unpardonable sin of rebuilding dar al-harb on land formerly a part of dar al-Islam".(p.96)

"Also, in my experience, those who disapprove of Israel's right to exist are either anti-

Semites or suffer from very poor judgment. Sensible people should support Zionism

(Israeli nationalism) which is Israel's right to self-defence against Jihad." ( p.1365 )

"I am a strong supporter of Israel and of all patriotic Jews"( p.1366)

"A modern cultural conservative (nationalist), anti-Jihad right wing alternative is emerging

in Western Europe. A majority of Western European right wing groups are all anti-

Islamisation and pro-Israel. They wish to include the Jews in our fight against

multiculturalism and the Islamisation of Europe. Israel is at the forefront of global Jihad.

If Israel falls, then all the forces currently targeting Israel (Islamic Jihad, Hamas,

Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood financed by Saudi, Iran etc.) will start to focus full

heartedly on Europe." .p. 1373)

Opinions have a notorious tendency to get easily disconnected from facts. But the probelm is that ,figuratively speaking, they don't stand on their own feet. Hence before relying on them it's necessary to see what facts support them and what don't.

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